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"Excess" Antarctic Sea Ice Area Now 97% the Size of Greenland's IceCap
NSIDC Sea Ice Daily Reports 1979-2014 ^ | 08 May 2014 | RACookPE1978

Posted on 05/08/2014 7:13:51 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE

All data from today’s WUWT (May 8) Sea Ice Page.

1. “Excess” total sea ice area anomaly is now greater than 1.050 million sq km’s.

Hmmmn. An “excess” total sea ice area anomaly (which combines both the Arctic and Antarctic sea ice areas together) approaching the size of Hudson Bay.

2. “Excess” Antarctic sea ice area is now 1.67 Million sq km’s … Or 97% the area of the entire Greenland ice cap. (A fact which 97% of government-paid climate scientists in the Obama administration will chose to ignore.)

3. By itself, “Excess” Antarctic sea ice area is now back over 1.67 Mkm^2 … a level only reached 5 times before.

A level NEVER reached between 1979 and 2007 in the modern (global warming) era, but has been passed five times in the 7 years between 2007 and 2014. Obviously, the more CO2 is in the air, the more Antarctic sea ice area keep increasing, right?

Combine this with the "Inconvenient Fact" that actual measured satellite global temperatures have NOT increased since 1996 ... Makes Obama seem a bit - premature in claiming today that global warming is a national crisis?

4. “Excess” Antarctic sea ice area in 2014 is now about 1.0 Mkm^2 GREATER than 2013′s sea ice area on this date last year. And 2013 set a record-breaking maximum Antarctic sea ice area in late December. Makes you wonder what will come later in this year.

5. And the Great Lakes sea ice – which is NOT included in the NSIDC’s “sea ice area” calculations! – has not yet melted away – but we are now in the second week in May. Steel, iron ore, coal production are already being affected, companies have already announced second quarter incomes and jobs are being affected in the Great Lakes region.

Now, Arctic sea ice is of course melting, and Arctic sea ice area has been dropping since early April as it does every year. Total sunlight onto the Arctic is increasing, and will increase until June 22 – about 5 weeks from now. Arctic sea ice will continue melting through the long summer days up north. But Arctic sea ice will continue decreasing its albedo until late July – decreasing from its present 0.93 to towards its low of 0.45 or so in July. But by mid-September when Arctic sea ice is at its minimum and Antarctic sea ice will be near its maximum, the Antarctic sea ice edge will be irradiated by five TIMES as much solar energy per square meter than the Arctic sea ice edge.

So, if 5 times the solar radiation falls on 1.67 million “extra” square kilometers of newly-frozen “excess” Antarctic sea ice than falls on a missing 0.4 Mkm^2 of Arctic sea ice, what happens to the planet’s total heat balance?

Do we not cool off even more?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antarctic; area; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; seaice
But Obama's ABCNNBCBS news media will follow their marching orders and publicize HIS National Climate Change Agenda ....
1 posted on 05/08/2014 7:13:51 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE
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To: SunkenCiv; Nachum; SoothingDave

Info.


2 posted on 05/08/2014 7:14:29 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Bump


3 posted on 05/08/2014 7:15:02 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Sounds like Mother Nature is jerking Obama’s string - just for the helluvit...


4 posted on 05/08/2014 7:16:13 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Malaysia Flight MH370 Black Box signals reported in Bermuda Triangle)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Link isn’t correct.


5 posted on 05/08/2014 7:18:21 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

The excess Antarctic ice is just as much evidence of global warming as the missing Arctic ice, silly.


6 posted on 05/08/2014 7:20:21 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

On a geologic time scale, we are still at historic low CO2 levels in the atmosphere.


7 posted on 05/08/2014 7:26:22 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

8 posted on 05/08/2014 7:26:30 PM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: Iron Munro; All

Just to be sure everybody understands:

On today’s date, the “average” Antarctic sea ice area is 6.714 million sq kilometers.

If global warming were indeed “global” or “warming” then it stands to reason that BOTH the Arctic AND the Antarctic sea ice would be melting - would be less than “normal for today’s date, right?

However, today, 8 May 2014, the actual Antarctic sea ice area is not only not “below normal” but it is actually 1.67 million sq kilometers ABOVE average at 8.381 millions sq kilometers!

Oh - by the way. This is NOT some “day-to-day” isolated single report of “excess” Antarctic sea ice ... Antarctic sea ice area has been increasing since records began in 1979, and has had a continuously positive anomaly since May 2011. Now 3 continuous years of a “positive” Antarctic sea ice anomaly!

If this steady increase in sea ice area continues, Cape Horn and the Straits of Magellan could be blocked by excess Antarctic sea ice within 8-12 years.


9 posted on 05/08/2014 7:29:35 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Granted:

The above link is to the http://www.WattUpWithThat.com web page itself.

Sea Ice reference page is under the [References] tab, then -> Sea Ice”

Directly, use this link. Total sea ice is near the top of the page, then Arctic, then maps, then Antarctic.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/reference-pages/sea-ice-page/


10 posted on 05/08/2014 7:34:20 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

This a a desperate last gasp response to the rapidly growing skepticism of anything associated with environmental hysterics. Rahm Emmanuel did the world a great favor by exposing the liberals’ universal strategy, “Never let a good crisis go to waste.”


11 posted on 05/08/2014 7:42:21 PM PDT by immadashell (The inmates are running the asylum.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Thanks!


12 posted on 05/08/2014 7:47:55 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

The planet is cooling, we will all die from the cold unless we repent and go green.

I saw this in a vision, watching Twilight Zone.


13 posted on 05/08/2014 7:48:13 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Climate Disruption...Climate Disruption

soon to be called Climate Workplace Disruption


14 posted on 05/08/2014 8:00:26 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: icwhatudo

8<)


15 posted on 05/08/2014 8:15:02 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
“the entire North ‘polarized’ cap will disappear in 5 years.” -ALbert Gore Jr. December 13th, 2008


16 posted on 05/08/2014 8:27:07 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ...

Thanks Robert A. Cook, PE.


17 posted on 05/08/2014 8:36:01 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Organic Panic
“the entire North ‘polarized’ cap will disappear in 5 years.” -ALbert Gore Jr. December 13th, 2008

The press doesn't hold liberals accountable... for anything.

18 posted on 05/08/2014 8:50:56 PM PDT by GOPJ ( Are we finally going to get a smidgen of truth? - - Freeper Veto!)
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To: MeshugeMikey

We must act like Noah did, prepare for something that isn’t here yet. It’s time to go into the sweater making business. Someone can invent the solar sweater. It would, of course, be made out of solar panels just to make libs happy.


19 posted on 05/08/2014 9:04:07 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: SunkenCiv

I read recently-maybe on FR- that the polar bears are in danger BECAUSE the arctic ice is so thick (3 or 4 meters, I believe) that the seals cannot break through it for air holes and thus are not accessible to hungry polar bears emerging from hibernation.

Golly gee, Al Gore, and Obummer, what do we make of that?


20 posted on 05/08/2014 9:06:39 PM PDT by matchgirl (An Ambassador is dead and Al Qaeda is alive.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Bump


21 posted on 05/08/2014 9:14:26 PM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
And when a big hunk of it shears off, as it inevitably will, they'll claim that that is globull warming too. These whackadoodles can't be reasoned with.
22 posted on 05/08/2014 9:20:39 PM PDT by zeugma (Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened - Dr. Seuss (I'll see you again someday Hope))
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Those crazy authors. How dare they use actual data and facts and not self-serving, jerrrymandered “computer models”. Just wait until the IRS and ABC/CBS/CNN/MSNBC/NBC/NPR/NLSlimes find out, someone will have to investigate the authors. /sarc


23 posted on 05/08/2014 9:34:50 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

These are the facts of the underclass, how dare they challenge the King, the facts of King Zero are immutable.

Off with their heads!


24 posted on 05/08/2014 9:47:47 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

I hope some FReeper who knows how will send this article to Eric Bolling and Bob Beckel (co-hosts on The Five on FNC).

Beckel is constantly pushing the global warming mantra and Eric is just the opposite.


25 posted on 05/09/2014 1:35:01 AM PDT by octex
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

An obscure but very interesting and important fact mentioned was the increased albedo effect from the larger ice in the Antarctic. Albedo, or reflective loss of solar radiation (by the ice) effectively cools the earth as the heat energy that would have been absorbed by open water is not absorbed to the same extent by ice, and is reflected into the atmosphere and into space. The loss of solar energy by albedo is limited by the insulating effect of the atmosphere, but the overall loss would be greater than the gain. net effect=cooling


26 posted on 05/09/2014 4:53:33 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

“Global warming” is so yesterday! Get with the program! It’s “Climate Disruption” now!


27 posted on 05/09/2014 5:17:32 AM PDT by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: neverdem; SoothingDave; All; Manly Warrior
An obscure but very interesting and important fact mentioned was the increased albedo effect from the larger ice in the Antarctic. Albedo, or reflective loss of solar radiation (by the ice) effectively cools the earth as the heat energy that would have been absorbed by open water is not absorbed to the same extent by ice, and is reflected into the atmosphere and into space. The loss of solar energy by albedo is limited by the insulating effect of the atmosphere, but the overall loss would be greater than the gain. net effect=cooling

Albedo works “against” the “We are melting all of the Arctic sea ice and will perish” syndrome so often propagandized.

First, ALL of the Arctic sea ice expends (freezes) and contracts (melts out again) like a “beanie cap” roughly centered on the north pole. Working out the arithmetic and geometry, you can pretty accurately summarize that “Arctic sea is at its maximum at latitude 71 north each year in early April, and is at its minimum at latitude 79-80 north each fall in mid-September.)

So it cycles between 71 north and 80 north.

Antarctic sea ice also expands and contracts: But much, much closer to the equator (at a LOWER altitude). Antarctic sea ice is at its minimum in late February at latitude 66 south, and expands until it reaches its maximum in mid-September at latitude 59-60 south!

Because the Antarctic sea is is closer tot he equator at all times of the year, it reflects much more sunlight than the Arctic sea ice does on an annual total basis. You have to play some mathematics to account for the changing solar output each day, the changing solar elevation angles, the changing tilt of the earth, the changing ice edge extents, etc ... but the Antarctic sea ice controls how much sunlight is reflected back into space 7 months of the year (September-March), and the smaller arctic sea ice only 5 months of the year (April-May-June-July-August).

Also, the Arctic sea ice tends to be 50% multi-year ice, so its gets dirtier and dust-covered. This reduces its albedo significantly during the summer: going from a clean & pristine 0.93 albedo to as low as 0.45 in June and July.

The Antarctic sea ice almost completely melts each Antarctic summer. So, each antarctic winter, spring and fall it is a fresh surface often covered with fresh snow and no industrial or “desert” dust. (No land area in the south, just the ice-covered high plateaus of Antarctica itself.)

So, any “excess” antarctic sea ice edge in September reflects over 5 times the energy that the same area of arctic sea ice would.

28 posted on 05/09/2014 5:28:21 AM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
The Sea Ice growth at Antarctica is quite amazing

It's 25% above normal right now and not only is it a record high, it's about 10% higher than the previous record (2009)!!!!

See, http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/antarctic.sea.ice.interactive.html for a comparison of previous years. This year is in yellow and look how far it's above the previous years.

29 posted on 05/09/2014 6:54:01 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: neverdem; qam1

Good display.

See also this showing the growth over time of Antarctic sea of the Antarctic sea ice anomaly.

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/seaice.anomaly.antarctic.png


30 posted on 05/09/2014 7:02:43 AM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Iron Munro

See? It proves there’s “Climate Disruption”...

now about that carbon tax.


31 posted on 05/09/2014 7:04:11 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The excess Antarctic ice is just as much evidence of global warming as the missing Arctic ice, silly.

Yep, the Fraudsters excuse is that the melting ice from the land at Antarctica is lowing the salinity in the seas around Antarctica, thus raising the freezing point of the water which is causing more ice to form

Of course the go silent when you confront them by asking if melting land ice is causing the record sea ice, then how come they same isn’t happening in the Arctic? We are always hearing about how Greenland & Alaska Glaciers are melting aren’t we? So shouldn’t there be record sea ice around them and the Arctic as a whole?

Nope, no answer. I guess to the Fraudsters Physics work differently depending on which Hemisphere you are in, remember the Fraudsters are the same people who think Heat from Global Warming can sink below cold and “hide” in the deep ocean

Also, from 2000 – 2007 Antarctica was losing sea ice. This prompted the 2007 IPCC report to predict that Antarctic sea ice would continue to decline and maybe soon accelerate to match the Arctic and the poor penguins were going to die. Of course, right on queue, the Antarctic reverse itself and continues to hit record highs

So if Global Warming is causing increase in sea ice now, what caused the decrease in 2000 – 2007? They can't answer that either.

32 posted on 05/09/2014 7:12:05 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

All true, snow cover in North America and Eurasia performs a similar function in the Northern Hemisphere as sea ice does in the S.H. I see on cryoshere that there is still a great deal of snow on the ground at higher latitudes in the N.H. So planet wide cooling would not be surprising.

One thing that you posted on at WUWT that I found very interesting was that open Arctic waters where in fact a heat/energy loss for the planet most of the year. More energy begin radiated into space then absorbed by sunlight from a low inclined Sun. I tried to find some numbers on this but was unable to. I think you are correct on this.


33 posted on 05/09/2014 7:53:18 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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