Skip to comments.New Hampshire Rep: Food Stamp Recipients Should Be Able to Buy Guns with EBT Cards
Posted on 05/09/2014 2:42:06 AM PDT by Daffynition
On May 7th New Hampshire Representative Timothy Horrigan (D-Durham) stood on the state house floor and argued against legislation forbidding the use of EBT cards for guns, saying such a ban "is a blatant violation of the Second Amendment."
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Any person who receives public assistance is prohibited from using an EBT card or cash obtained with an EBT card to gamble or to purchase tobacco products, alcoholic beverages, lottery tickets, firearms, or adult entertainment.
whole new meaning to “eat lead”
I got a simple solution. I will refrain from comment, however, to avoid the zot.
My gun has provided me with a heck of a lot of food in the past when I had no money to purchase food....
I joke now when someone orders pheasant at a restaurant... I have a hard time eating pheasant as I associate the taste with biting on lead shot!
How about we stop the whole EBT thing, completely? Go back to food depots for the needy, and run them locally.
Stop giving these people money (in any form), and you immediately remove the need for this type of legislation, and you don’t waste time debating the (dubious) merits of the rule(s).
I wish I could get some of that free money with no strings attached!
An EBT Card is not a “Food Stamp” Card. Its an Electronic Benefits Card.
You are thinking about the SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program) Card.
The SNAP card can only purchase approved food items.
The EBT (Welfare) card used to be able to be used anywhere but after abuses States are adding restrictions to their use - like in the case of this story.
“A Democrat arguing FOR the use of EBT cards for the 2nd Amendment?Wow”
Yeah, wow. I have a problem with taxpayer money being used by free loaders to buy guns....
I would go further. Such depots would distribute basic foodstuffs: flour, sugar, cornmeal, salt, canned goods including meat and fish, fresh vegetables, pasta, TVP, powdered eggs and milk. Absolutely no convenience foods.
Of course there would be some problems. Give most EBT recipients a bag of flour, and a packet of yeast and tell them "Here is your loaf of bread" and they would look at you like you were insane. They would not be able to turn these basics into food.
Half the Walmart's and fast food joints would shut down.
Where I grew up in Western PA, schools were closed on opening day of deer season, and a teenager (with a valid hunting license) could be excused from up to three days of school during deer season. Many families in the area viewed their deer tags as a sort of food stamp and counted on hunting to supplement their grocery budget. While I'm opposed to the concept of EBT in general and certainly for the purchase of firearms, as long as the program is what it is, I'd be willing to compromise and allow EBT benefits to be used for the purchase of a hunting license...at least that way you know the recipients are willing to do at least some work for some of their food and in fact, are performing a service in the management of wildlife.
> A Democrat arguing FOR the use of EBT cards for the 2nd Amendment?
I don’t need some thug robbing me with a gun he bought with an EBT card. No.
While I strongly believe in the right to bear arms, taxpayers should not be footing the bill tor this nonsense. I had to look at the headline again to see if this was a John Semmens article...
yeah, I should have known that
> How about we stop the whole EBT thing, completely? Go back to food depots for the needy, and run them locally.
Stop giving these people money (in any form), and you immediately remove the need for this type of legislation, and you dont waste time debating the (dubious) merits of the rule(s).
The DNC couldn’t have that. Working hard for a living would convert the into middle class Republicans ith conservative values and “homey can’t have ‘dat”...
How do you decide....lobster or a gun?......lobster or a gun?......lobster or a gun?
I believe there has been a vast conspiracy to withhold that portion of the Constitution and all of my teachers were in on it.
I’ve eaten pheasant and other little beasties in many an English restaurant - and almost lost fillings and teeth because of lead. It’s the price you pay for fresh-killed food!
Could this be a backdoor way to increase the number of folk in Obama’s ‘Domestic Security Force’. Think about it ... with a weapon the LIVs can augment their income (holdups, robberies, etc), and be ready for when Zero calls for his ‘revolution’ (attack ‘whitey’). All this with a tool paid for by us taxpayers.
It's right under the part that gives people the right to kill babies that they don't want.
Hunting licenses already passed out free to the takers. Fishing too. Yeah it’s a good thing for them who got time on their hand... not!
It’s Alisnsky tactic - made your opponent live up to his ideals. I assume that is the case that it is a set-up to show GOP hypocrisy or something.
> Hunting licenses already passed out free to the takers. Fishing too. Yeah its a good thing for them who got time on their hand... not!
Hunting and fishing licenses for free is a sore point. It used to be when you reached 65 you could get a free fishing license. On my 65th birthday I trotted myself over to get my fishing license only to find out that only 6 months before they moved the age requirement to 70. When I reach 70 I’ll probably find out that it got moved again to 75.
guns are to protect those without food stamps from those with food stamps after they run out of food stamps.
I thought EBT was the new Food Stamps.
Will it gradually be nmorphed by the government into a “salary” instead of just a handout intended for food?
Thanks for the insight. I don’t know of this politico.
Seems to me....that if you need a gun....get a job and earn it.
And that same rep would stand there if voter id was coming up and say it was impossible for those very same people to get an id.
The Constitution formed a government of very carefully crafted checks and balances and the concept of powers limited only to those enumerated. If the preamble had force of law the rest of the Constitution may as well have not been written as any power imaginable could be justified.
I like the poor farm concept, give aid to the needy but only if they are willing to move to the poor farm where they will live in spartan accomodations with just the bare necessities of food, clothing, shelter and clean water. Those who are able should work for their keep. In other words let them live as those of us who were born on the farm as I was used to live, working for their keep from the age they are first able to do some small chore. Those who are able to learn should have the opportunity to learn a trade to give them a way to leave the farm and be independent. Of course, this idea is so old and so sensible that it will never be considered.
There was a bill in one of the first sessions of Congress, in the 1790's, that would fund the purchase of a firearm for every able-bodied adult male who could not afford one or who did not have one. IIRC, it didn't pass, with reasons being not enough funds, and also that the "owners" would not give a "free" rifle the sort of care they would give one that they had to purchase.
It may be a lefty trying to confound the right, but I’d say that the best reply is to agree. After all, it gives people “dignity” to decide for themselves how to spend handouts.
But I’d suggest that we don’t buy kitchen appliances with EBT money, we buy the consumables. So we shouldn’t buy guns, we should let them buy AMMO!
judging from the shortage of turkeys ere in Maine, it looks like a lot of folk here in Maine have joined you.
I teach at our local high school. I have a mini fridge, microwave, and coffee maker in my room. My fridge is stocked with my convenience foods: apples, cheese, peanut butter, yogurt, half and half, water, etc. One morning I was rushed and had no leftovers for lunch. I snagged a potato from my pantry and grabbed the container of sour cream and the bag of shredded cheddar from our fridge. I nuked the potato near the end of class as it needs to carry-over cook after the microwave shuts off. My students’ mouths were watering. They had no idea that this was possible. I immediately asked for a show of hands on who could scramble an egg. Three out of 17 students raised their hands. Sad.
Good suggestion, but it won't happen unless you can give members of Congress step by step directions on how they can skim more money using your plan than they are now using the EBT card plan.
That's exactly what it is. Just like the Dem legislator trying to re-enact the draft to try to thwart Bush.
And the best reply IS to agree with him. It will shut him down.
My epiphany came watching Jamie Oliver. He was on a mission, as usual, to bring cooking skills to those who lived on fast food and convenience food in a British city. Some of his students didn't know how to boil water. Some didn't know what boiling water looked like.
I don't know what subject you teach. A five minute segment at the end of class on life skills might be useful for your students.
Hey Harrigan... why not get a law pass to let EBT to be used for a Caribbean vacation.
uhhh....2nd. Amendment does NOT say that I have to buy your gun for you.
Totally agree on earning your gun.
I heard this on Fox News this am. He actually was arguing for their Second Amendment right to Buy Arms. That excluding gun purchasing from an EBT card was an against the Constitution of these United States. It was actually an interesting argument.
I'd like to see hunting licenses given away to everyone for free, or at greatly reduced prices. In most parts of the country, there are far too many deer and not enough people killing them (except with their cars).
Try biting steel.