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RUSH: The Tea Party is Far from Dead -- in North Carolina or Anywhere Else
www.RushLimbaugh.com ^ | May 08, 2014 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 05/09/2014 4:06:58 AM PDT by Yosemitest



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: establishment; francisdeluca; kayhagan; mikelee; republican; repwalterjonesjr; taylorgriffin; teaparty; tedcruz; walterjones
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BRAVO, Rush!
VERY WELL SAID !
God Bless You and yours.

"Establishment Republicans", stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
We're getting you OUT of D.C., no matter how much you spend.
1 posted on 05/09/2014 4:06:58 AM PDT by Yosemitest
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To: Yosemitest

I’m in NC, and I couldn’t tell that the Tea Party didn’t want Tillis. The ONLY ads I saw against him were the idiotic ones run by dim-0s about.................Thom Tillis shared an apartment with an aide and the aide was having an affair!!!!!!!!!


2 posted on 05/09/2014 4:18:58 AM PDT by weezel
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To: Yosemitest

RUSH is partly wrong on this…Walter Jones is hardly Tea Party - less Tea Party than his opponent Taylor Griffin - who had the local TP endorsements in this race. His research here just totally wrong.

The Jones race is not classic estab v tea Party. Neither candidate fits the entire mold, but Jones is more liberal on more issues than Griffin by far. Sarah Palin and the local Tea Parties agree. Rush stepped in deep do do on this one.

His bigger point, that the TP isn’t dead, I agree with….but NC 3 does not prove it at all.


3 posted on 05/09/2014 4:33:32 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: weezel

Well, let’s not forget that Hagan groups ran ads almost blaming Tillis for Obama Care - which is ironic.

Fact is, Tillis had a lot of money, and he’s not been that bad of a Speaker. Brannon was by far the best man for the job, but his campaign had some problems - and Tillis ran a very good organized campaign.


4 posted on 05/09/2014 4:38:30 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Yosemitest; Servant of the Cross

In fact, the more I think about this, the more irritated and disappointed in Rush I am.

Jones is a 9-11 Truther…..he’s in favor of raising the minimum wage…..his rankings on all the conservative rating groups has been going down down down over the past decade. He is certainly the most liberal Republican in the House from the South. He’s just awful. The local Tea Party groups know it, and so did Palin, who endorsed Griffin. SHAME on Rush for this mistake.

As an aside, I know enough about show prep to know how this kind of mistake could have been made.


5 posted on 05/09/2014 4:44:13 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Even with the big push from the GOP-e Tillis only got 45% of the primary vote. That means 55% voted against him.

Jones won his primary even with the big push from the GOP-e to get him out.

So I’d say Tea Party ideals are still kicking the GOP-e’s shins around here.


6 posted on 05/09/2014 4:49:36 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I could be wrong, but wasn’t Walter Jones one of the few GOP reps who joined the Democrat surrender crowd in regards to Iraq back during the Bush administration.


7 posted on 05/09/2014 5:04:00 AM PDT by gusty
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To: C. Edmund Wright
I've always seen the Tea Party as an event, a protest, a convulsion, maybe a national death throe but never an institution that can be co-opted by politicians, the media, Rush or anyone else.

But if Matt Bevin does not defeat McConnell in KY, the Republican Party, for all intents and purposes, will be dead to me and my voter registration will reflect that the day after.

8 posted on 05/09/2014 5:05:00 AM PDT by Theophilus (.)
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To: gusty

Yes, Jones is frankly an erratic idiot….. Idoubt his IQ is over 85, literally.

He’s all over the place. Boehner doesn’t like him, but neither do any Tea Party conservatives who know what he’s about.


9 posted on 05/09/2014 5:11:56 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Theophilus

Well you have the right to make your own choices, but since you admit that the Tea Party cannot be co opted by any one person or group of persons, why don’t you apply thgat logic to the GOP and not let McConnell or Rove or Barbour run you out of the party of Palin, Limbaugh, Cruz, Levin?

Apply your lesson BOTH WAYS. You will be forced to submit to the socialist if they get theri way….just sayin…..


10 posted on 05/09/2014 5:13:20 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: PeteB570

I said I agree with the bigger point Rush was making, but this is my territory, I know the players, and the following are facts:

There was no big GOP e push to get Jones out. There was some, but not big. Don’t believe Jone’s ad material.

Jones is the most liberal Republican from the south, period. The TP and Palin opposed him. That’s why he only won 51%. He lost every county but his hometown county.

Tillis was pushed to the right by Brannon, and frankly, Tillis is not as bad as some of the folks who supported him, like Rove. The NC House under his speakership has been good, not great, but good. They have pushed Gov MCCrory to the right.

Just some thoughts here.


11 posted on 05/09/2014 5:17:30 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Yosemitest

Tellis will be better than Kay Hagan, so let’s united behind him.


12 posted on 05/09/2014 5:47:54 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: Yosemitest

All Tuesday proves is that the GOPe has successfully jiggered the election process in a number of states.


13 posted on 05/09/2014 5:53:35 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Yosemitest

Good news, “Operation American Spring” is coming to D.C. a week from today!


14 posted on 05/09/2014 6:46:47 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Yosemitest

Thank-you Rush!


15 posted on 05/09/2014 6:48:11 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Yosemitest
US HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DISTRICT 03 - REP (VOTE FOR 1)
Precincts Reported: 241 of 241
NAME ON BALLOT PARTY BALLOT COUNT PERCENT
Walter Jones REP 22,534 50.91 %
Taylor Griffin REP 19,937 45.05 %
Al (Big Al) Novinec REP 1,788 4.04 %

16 posted on 05/09/2014 7:07:34 AM PDT by deport
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To: C. Edmund Wright
In fact, the more I think about this, the more irritated and disappointed in Rush I am.

You have a first hand perspective on both this N.C. 3 congressional race AND show prep. I trust your sense of this.

However, at least Rush does have the BIG point right - the Tea Party MOVEMENT is alive!

... The Tea Party, a movement, a name, a coalition of grassroots activists that have just come together, no official Tea Party ... they're idea people and they're not totally unified on everything, but they're identifiable as people who are fed up with the establishment of both parties, including the Republican Party.

And due to this somewhat subjective definition, WHO is a Tea Party movement candidate is a very elusive thing. A lot of times and races no candidate fits the perfect mold. Some candidates may be embraced by both the establishment and the TP, correctly or not so. And a wide variety of candidates will get "defined" as Tea Party, rightly or wrongly too. So informed candidates and voters need to pay clear attention to a candidate's record and what they stand for. For example, Todd Akin was NOT the Tea Party candidate although that lie, spoken by the establishment and liberals, has circled the world numeral times now.

And as you point out, Walter Jones is not TP. And identifying Jones' record should have been very easy for Rush's show prep. Evidently, the desire to find an example of a TP win was just too great that he settled for such a poor example.

17 posted on 05/09/2014 8:15:40 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Servant of the Cross; Biggirl
And as you point out, Walter Jones is not TP. And identifying Jones' record should have been very easy for Rush's show prep. Evidently, the desire to find an example of a TP win was just too great that he settled for such a poor example.

Yes, well SOTC, we both know of a former key member of show prep who no longer does it, and that person would have certainly caught this. The better example would be that the actual TP backed candidate almost beat Jones, a 22 year incumbent, to make Rush' point - or that Tillis was moved way right by Brannon in order to win, as a show of TP strength at least philosophically.

As to your other point, there's a misguided effort on the part of some, Laura Ingraham and Ann Coulter, somewhat Rush and others - to now define TP as simply a pro deport them all now organization - and to characterize anyone who is NOT deport them all now as "pro amnesty." That's absurd of course.

That's not the case. Rural Tea Party groups dependent on migrant workers are not this way at all. Rush knows, and has stated many times on air, that mass deportation is simply not possible. Why he then byes into the Ingraham/coulter line of thinking on this is just beyond me. He needs that other filter….

18 posted on 05/09/2014 8:21:54 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
I'm confused. Or did you mean something else ?

And "byes" equals "buys" ?
19 posted on 05/09/2014 9:10:29 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

NC is my territory also.


20 posted on 05/09/2014 9:16:10 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: deport

21 posted on 05/09/2014 9:23:31 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

SOTC is Servant of the Cross, a Freeper who shares some inside knowledge with me vis a vis Rush’ show.

And thanks for the typo spellcheck…is that really important?


22 posted on 05/09/2014 9:59:02 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: PeteB570
NC is my territory also.

Do you disagree with any of my assessments ?

23 posted on 05/09/2014 10:00:15 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: C. Edmund Wright; Yosemitest

and in the same spirit of irrelevant minutia, it should be istbasotcbfd instead of just sotc.


24 posted on 05/09/2014 10:23:01 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Actually ... it is.
Accidents happen, typos due to "fumble fingers" and "brain farts",
but the "Post Reply" has the "Spell" button just below the 'Tagline' on the left, and it really helps ...
25 posted on 05/09/2014 10:32:04 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Servant of the Cross
Now you really lost me.
Just know that some acronyms have many meanings, and are NOT clearly understood.
26 posted on 05/09/2014 10:46:59 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest
Now you really lost me.

The 'answer' is found on my FR "Profile" page.

And it, like bye vs. buy, is truly irrelevant minutia. IMHO.

27 posted on 05/09/2014 10:52:16 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Pass, it’s not worth my time to track it down.


28 posted on 05/09/2014 11:28:23 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

you go back to your cubicle, you miserable left brained type B boring bureaucrat!!!!!

I’m dealing with big issues and ideas here…..I’ve not time or patience for minutae nazis.


29 posted on 05/09/2014 12:04:42 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Yes


30 posted on 05/09/2014 12:04:54 PM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: PeteB570

Uh, okay, some people might have considered that an invitation to discuss what I said that you disagree with.

I am right on this…..but am willing to hear alternative views.


31 posted on 05/09/2014 12:07:22 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: PeteB570

You are really off the rails if you think Jones is a tea party guy. All the local tea parties disagree with you and so does Sarah Palin.

You have fallen victim to Jone’s ads which are misleading.


32 posted on 05/09/2014 12:08:49 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I don’t believe you read my post close enough to understand it.

But I forgive you.

By the way don’t forget to donate to FR.


33 posted on 05/09/2014 12:14:49 PM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: PeteB570

Then clarify.


34 posted on 05/09/2014 12:19:46 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Sensitive, aren’t we ... (hehehehehehehe)


35 posted on 05/09/2014 12:29:10 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

I don’t suffer bureaucrats, never have. It’s not sensitive, it’s proper. No one should suffer bureaucrats, except as at a bare minimum. Don’t suffer those fools who major in minors either.

Why don’t you go re arrange the lavatory.


36 posted on 05/09/2014 1:12:00 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
I don't care about the "who" of the GOP I care about the "what", as in the "What The What???".

McConnell is a socialist and he's proven it time and again over all of his 30 years of power! I'll always vote, every single time, even if there is no one to vote for. I'll also try to talk local people I can vote for to run.

Concerning the 2016 election the GOP has determined that my Commonwealth is always a complete non-factor. I guess I can thank McConnell for that as well. If Bevin loses and we somehow become a factor for Cruz 2016 then I may rejoin the party.

37 posted on 05/09/2014 4:02:22 PM PDT by Theophilus (.)
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To: Yosemitest; yongin; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; campaignPete R-CT; fieldmarshaldj

Walter Jones was the RINO in that race, not Griffin.

Honest to God Rush, come on. Come ON!


38 posted on 05/09/2014 9:28:00 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy
I left NC in 1985 when the military sent me to South Korea.
I lived there for about 6 years, and I'm not that familiar with Walter Jones.
But I TRUST Rush, and if he says it, I'd bet he's correct.
39 posted on 05/09/2014 10:22:05 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest; C. Edmund Wright; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; MitchellC; ...

You shouldn’t blindly trust anyone. Rush is wrong here.

What he repeated was Pro-Jones propaganda, he was either fooled or didn’t do his due diligence. Rush is human and not infallible.

Google Jones and check out his record, cross google his name with “RINO”. He’s a former rat who’s been drifting more and more to the left. National Journal ranks him as a centrist. He’s full of shite when he claims to be conservative. Palin endorsed Griffin. So too I would figure did any local tea party group that’s not run by Paulbots.

And no, I’m not a neocon who just hates him because he’s not pro-war, I’m not either, but nor do I ascribe to the Kucinich/Ron Paul foreign policy like Jones does. Clearly he’s a guy that never would have switched to “R” if the D’s hadn’t started losing power in NC.


40 posted on 05/10/2014 12:05:29 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy; Yosemitest; yongin; AuH2ORepublican; campaignPete R-CT; fieldmarshaldj
Yikes. Rush for was RINO Walter Jones? The RAT who became a Republican to get elected in 1994 and profusely apologized to the liberal media for renaming French Fries "Freedom Fries" to snub Jac Chirac?

Jones' ACU ratings in recent years have been 79% in 2006, 71% in 2007, 58% in 2008, 83% in 2009 (the lone year in recent memory where he scored over 80 like conservatives are SUPPOSED to EVERY year), 65% in 2010, and a pathetic 60% in 2011. He is one of only a handful of Republicans who votes with the RATS on the minimum wage and to censure Joe Wilson for shouting "You lie!" at Obama for lying about Obamacare. If that's Rush's idea of principled conservative, I'd hate to see what liberal looks like. Jones' voting record looks like a typical New England "centrist", not a conservative from a safe GOP seat in North Carolina.

This is worse than Rush's silly support for drafting Rick Perry for POTUS in 2012. I really like listening to Rush but he does go off the deep end from time to time, and this is one of those times.

Fortunantely I don't worship talk radio show hosts and consider their opinions to be infallible, unlike some conservatives (::cough:: Mark Levin worshipers ::cough::)

41 posted on 05/10/2014 12:17:43 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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To: BillyBoy; Impy
I'd have to research it.
There are too many "Establishment Republicans" Who'll lie in a heartbeat to trash a TEA Party Conservative.
Damn ALL the "Establishment Republicans" to HELL !
42 posted on 05/10/2014 12:27:09 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: BillyBoy; Yosemitest; yongin; AuH2ORepublican; campaignPete R-CT; fieldmarshaldj

Not just the ACU which is getting less and less relaible and has their 2013 and 2012 ratings posted sideways for some reason so you have to tilt your head to see them.

Look at the national journal ratings.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/free/document/5075

It’s an XLS doucment but if you can open it you’ll have to scroll way down to find Jones because they have him as the 4th least conservative Republican in the (they are in order of CON RANK from highest to lowest) House behind only NY RINOs Hanna, Grimm, and Gibson! That’s worse than I thought.

It’s complete madness to call Jones “tea party”, madness. The only thing he has in common with them is that he hates the party establishment, in his case cause he’s a liberal.

Paulbots Amash and Massie also score poorly.

I’m disappointed to see IL Republican John Shimkus rated so poorly for 2013.

Auh2orepublican has a combined rating system that he outlines

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3102832/replies?c=53

There.

<<<<<<Yosemitest: There are too many “Establishment Republicans” Who’ll lie in a heartbeat to trash a TEA Party Conservative.<<<<<<

There are also way too many a**holes ranging from random millionaires who gave money to democrats to Ron Paul kooks to Liz Cheney (as establishment as they come) who claim to be “tea party” when they sure as hell don’t fit my definition of a good conservative. Seems like all they have to do is rail against the “establishment” to fool people into believing them.


43 posted on 05/10/2014 12:44:54 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Yosemitest; Impy

Go ahead and “research it”.

Jones voting record speaks for itself. He is probably the most liberal Republican in the south. Lifelong Dem prior to 1994, comes from a LIBERAL Democrat family, and his dear ol’ daddy Walter Sr. had a longtime reputation as a “progressive leader” in the North Carolina RAT Party.

Now “Republican” Walter Jr. is one of only a handful of Republicans who voted with the RATs for the minimum wage. One of only a handful of Republicans who voted with the RATs for tax increases. One of only a handful of Republicans who voted with the RATs to censure a conservative congressman for shouting “You Lie!” at Obama. “Republican” Jones is 9/11 truther who supports causes with the likes of Dennis Kucinich.

Feel free to look up all the previous posts about Walter Jones on FR, you’ll find out this guy is a RINO’s RINO, which is why all the mainstream (non-Ron Paulite) tea party groups and Sarah Palin OPPOSED Jones in the primary.

I agree with Rush 95% of the time, but he’s dead WRONG here. Rush failing to properly research Jones is no excuse for freepers not doing so.


44 posted on 05/10/2014 12:44:58 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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To: Yosemitest; C. Edmund Wright; Impy
Here's a good article on FR from 2012, showing just how far left Jones has drifted in recent years:

Walter Jones, that was then, this is now


45 posted on 05/10/2014 12:58:40 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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To: Yosemitest; C. Edmund Wright; Impy

Ironically, it looks like RINO Jones was one of the turncoats who joined the Dems in trying to start a backlash against Rush by making hay out of his “phony soldiers” comment. Jones even took it so far that he was the ONLY Republican who announced he would co-sponsor the congressional resolution to condemn Rush:

http://triangle.johnlocke.org/blog/?p=1101

Rush would probably be kicking himself now if he knew he endorsed one of the mainstream media suckups who went after him.


46 posted on 05/10/2014 1:07:46 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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To: BillyBoy; C. Edmund Wright
Ironically, it looks like RINO Jones was one of the turncoats who joined the Dems in trying to start a backlash against Rush by making hay out of his “phony soldiers” comment. Jones even took it so far that he was the ONLY Republican who announced he would co-sponsor the congressional resolution to condemn Rush:

LOL. Rush needs to improve his "show prep" team ping ...

47 posted on 05/10/2014 12:40:05 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: BillyBoy

I’m not sure if he actually endorsed him before the election or just deiced to ballyhoo his victory to offer a counterpoint to the “tea party is dead” storyline that cropped up because Tillis won. Either way, he made an error.

The fact that Tillis is not a RINO and that Brannon was vastly overrated as candidate adds another dimension of sillyness to the whole thing.


48 posted on 05/10/2014 11:44:18 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Either way, EVERY ONE needs to get behind Tillis now, and get kay hagan the hell out of there!


49 posted on 05/11/2014 4:58:37 AM PDT by weezel
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To: weezel

Agreed.


50 posted on 05/11/2014 5:07:31 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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