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Dynamic Grip Recognition smart guns just two years away, researchers say
Guns.com ^ | 5/08/14 | Chris Eger

Posted on 05/09/2014 7:39:11 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh

Researchers at the New Jersey Institute of Technology advise that the next generation of biometric-equipped smart guns is as little as two years away from being fully mature.

These guns would use Dynamic Grip Recognition, which is a series of electronic sensors and microchips housed inside the grip of the handgun. These piezoelectric sensors record the user’s grip signature, which then either allows or disallows access to the trigger package.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; smartguns
“The way that you are applying pressure is a combination both of your musculature and the way your brain is trained to pull back on the trigger,” Dr. Donald H. Sebastian, senior vice president for research and development at NJIT, told Guns.com Thursday. “And that is both individual and reproducible.”

Gee, what could possibly go wrong with that?

1 posted on 05/09/2014 7:39:11 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: Malone LaVeigh
Will Not Buy.

Will Not Comply if mandated for retrofit for existing guns.

My gun should be more reliable than my smartphone, not less.

2 posted on 05/09/2014 7:41:31 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

I certainly hope that nobody ever has to fire their weapon after injuring or straining their hand...


3 posted on 05/09/2014 7:42:00 AM PDT by MortMan (I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

A huge “no” to this.

Any gun smart enough to recognize it’s owner, is a gun which can be messed with by government.

No. Just no. Not today. Not in two years. Not ever.

No.


4 posted on 05/09/2014 7:42:17 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Guaranteed not to work in a stressful situation.


5 posted on 05/09/2014 7:42:29 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh
A gun the government can ‘turn off’ is a gun pre-confiscated.
6 posted on 05/09/2014 7:43:30 AM PDT by GOPJ ( Are we finally going to get a smidgen of truth? - - Freeper Veto!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Agreed. Absolutely not. Forced conversion/purchase of this WILL be the catalyst for revolution...mark my words.


7 posted on 05/09/2014 7:44:01 AM PDT by EnigmaticAnomaly ("Discarded fetuses for power? Hitler may have lost the battle, but he won the war.")
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To: Malone LaVeigh
We don't need "smart guns". We need smarter people.

No law will ever make that happen.

8 posted on 05/09/2014 7:46:14 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Cogito, ergo armatum sum.)
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To: MortMan

Or ends up in a situation where someone else has to fire the gun.


9 posted on 05/09/2014 7:47:27 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

In the Miami shootout, didn’t one of the FBI agents get shot in the hand. How would have that affected any attempt to fire the gun after the injury?


10 posted on 05/09/2014 7:48:21 AM PDT by jim_trent
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To: Malone LaVeigh

I am certainly glad that I am at or near the end of my collection acquisition. I’d hate to be starting out with my first gun at this point.


11 posted on 05/09/2014 7:50:36 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Malone LaVeigh
With a universal "kill switch" that will deactivate all firearms on a signal from the White Hut.
12 posted on 05/09/2014 7:52:20 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

I’m going to go out and get one.

As soon as every federal and local LEO uses them.


13 posted on 05/09/2014 7:56:45 AM PDT by chrisser (Senseless legislation does nothing to solve senseless violence.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

The sole intent here is not to provide smart guns, but to outlaw all others. CA did this with microstamping.


14 posted on 05/09/2014 7:57:15 AM PDT by umgud
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To: Malone LaVeigh
If they really do this right, they can also equip them all with GPS trackers, and micro-switches that allow the likes of Eric Holder to turn them off at his discretion.

Great Caesar's Ghost! Sounds like my kind of usable technology!

15 posted on 05/09/2014 7:59:39 AM PDT by stevem
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Sounds great, let’s mandate them for DHS, BLM, NYPD, etc.


16 posted on 05/09/2014 7:59:51 AM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: thorvaldr

Oh and by the way, the idea of a remote kill switch is not paranoia. I saw the website for some company trying to market RFID smart gun grips and they explicitly said there would be a remote kill switch.


17 posted on 05/09/2014 8:02:34 AM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: Malone LaVeigh
Classic case of 'garbage in/garbage out'. Fill the NJ state legislature with garbage politicians, get garbage legislation.

There's nothing 'smart' about 'smart guns' except the political creation of the terminology. It's just another 'assault weapon'-type addition to the meme'. No one does this better than the Alinsky-ite democrats in NJ. They've turned it into an art form.

18 posted on 05/09/2014 8:04:39 AM PDT by paulcissa (The first requirement of Liberalism is to stand on your head and tell the world they're upside down)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

No thanks. My guns work just fine. They go bang every time I pull the trigger. Don’t need any more technology to FUBAR things up.


19 posted on 05/09/2014 8:12:27 AM PDT by Syntyr (Happiness is two at low eight!)
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To: Malone LaVeigh
“And that is both individual and reproducible.”

And is different when calmly plinking at the range, and when panicked in a genuine life threatening situation!

20 posted on 05/09/2014 8:14:27 AM PDT by null and void ( They don't think think they are above the law. They think they are the law.)
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To: stevem

“If they really do this right, they can also equip them all with GPS trackers, and micro-switches that allow the likes of Eric Holder to turn them off at his discretion.”

And dont even think for one pico second that the current administraton or even a Republican amdin wouldn’t hesitate for a moment to use the system to shut them down if they have that power!
They can NOT be trusted!


21 posted on 05/09/2014 8:15:25 AM PDT by Syntyr (Happiness is two at low eight!)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

A solution for a problem which does not exist.


22 posted on 05/09/2014 8:22:42 AM PDT by TheDon (Californians are losing their right to keep and bear firearms one firearm at a time.)
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To: TheDon

Any business, gun shop that sells this will be on my boycott list and never get another dime from me.


23 posted on 05/09/2014 8:27:04 AM PDT by gwgn02
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To: Malone LaVeigh

And as they are fully mature, the proper proof of this is to equip all police departments with only these weapons.


24 posted on 05/09/2014 8:29:34 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

No reliability issues there. :-)


25 posted on 05/09/2014 8:36:49 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

The man is on a business trip.

The wife needs the weapon for home defense. Someone is beating the door in.

Sorry, the grip doesn’t recognize her handprint.

She’ll have to use a broom.


26 posted on 05/09/2014 8:40:17 AM PDT by lurk
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To: jim_trent
In the Miami shootout, didn’t one of the FBI agents get shot in the hand. How would have that affected any attempt to fire the gun after the injury?

not to worry, these guns will be for US not for THEM
27 posted on 05/09/2014 8:42:19 AM PDT by jrg
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To: Malone LaVeigh

If one or more firearms companies offers this “dynamic . . . smart gun” or any other “smart gun”, I will boycott that company forever. If a dealer, including an Internet site, offers any smart gun (even if they learn from the mistake and later withdraw the listing), I will boycott them forever. This is not a question of free choice, not when the anti-gun left wants to mandate this monstrosity for everyone even those who want reliable firearms. As a free choice, I would never buy an intentionally unreliable firearm. Since it’s not a free choice, I will never buy from a manufacturer or retailer who offers any variant of unreliable firearm and infringes on my free choice.


28 posted on 05/09/2014 8:43:31 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

“Gee, what could possibly go wrong with that?”

That pretty well sums it up...


29 posted on 05/09/2014 9:25:27 AM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a classical Christian approach to homeschool])
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To: Malone LaVeigh

So it can recognize these tell-tale signs from all family members (and friends) all on one gun?

If not, then this “technological breakthrough” isn’t as good as the current, mechanical product.

It takes serious ignorance of guns to think that this is “smart.”


30 posted on 05/09/2014 9:27:12 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Guaranteed not to work in a stressful situation.

Exactly. When the adrenaline kicks in, you will be a complete stranger to that weapon.

31 posted on 05/09/2014 9:35:36 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the libs say we are.)
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To: Noamie

All family and friends —

Keep their biometric hand signature on the icloud.

Then the gun can download whichever one is needed when the gun is picked up.

This is not a problem. Apple and Google will ensure we are all safe.

As long as the gun is still waterproof.


32 posted on 05/09/2014 9:40:29 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (You can count my felonies by looking at my FR replies.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

I see only one way this could go: if it is mandated by government, so that the company survives solely because of this mandatory handout.

Otherwise, it should be faced with an early boycott, so that if it doesn’t get a favorable law, it goes out of business.


33 posted on 05/09/2014 9:41:16 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: Malone LaVeigh
Gee, what could possibly go wrong with that?

You're in a desperate fight for your life. You're wounded and have to shoot off-hand or your trigger finger is disabled.

Naw, nothing can go wrong.

34 posted on 05/09/2014 9:43:27 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: umgud
The sole intent here is not to provide smart guns, but to outlaw all others.

Bingo. BTT

35 posted on 05/09/2014 9:44:30 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Malone LaVeigh
Absolutely the most stupid thing I have ever heard. It's not about safety but control. The same thing can be said about the Federal Education System. Oh and oBambi care
36 posted on 05/09/2014 9:50:21 AM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (Don't forget love)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Whoops, forgot to change the batteries.


37 posted on 05/09/2014 9:59:29 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Pollster1

All you need is one Bloomberg funded gun store to sell them and a couple of lefties to buy them; then the ban can begin!


38 posted on 05/09/2014 10:13:49 AM PDT by catman67
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Yet another enterprise destined to go broke.


39 posted on 05/09/2014 10:20:20 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Secret service first. Then federal agents. Then local law enforcement. Otherwise hell no.

“HMM! Are the batteries fresh? Am I holding the grip EXACTLY the same way?”


40 posted on 05/09/2014 11:17:40 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: andy58-in-nh
We don't need "smart guns". We need smarter people. No law will ever make that happen.

Yep - you can make something fool-proof, but you can't make it damn-fool-proof...

41 posted on 05/09/2014 11:39:55 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Malone LaVeigh
It sounds like a very stupid gun to me. Won't fire if my hand is injured. Won't fire in my off hand. Won't fire if I'm down and a friend or family member picks it up. Won't fire if the battery is low. Won't fire if the gun takes a blow that damages the electronics.

Only an idiot would pay extra big dollars for a piece of crap like that.

42 posted on 05/09/2014 11:47:06 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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