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Posted on 05/09/2014 9:16:48 AM PDT by aimhigh
The San Joaquin County Sheriff's Office pulled its deputies off the streets Thursday afternoon and asked other local law enforcement agencies to respond to calls of service after a number of newly purchased duty weapons failed gun range testing, officials said.
"We recently purchased over 300 Sig Sauer .40-caliber handguns, and during qualification on the range, a couple of them failed," said Deputy Les Garcia, a Sheriff's Office spokesman. "Our range master contacted Sig, and Sig identified a part in this gun that will potentially cause them to malfunction."
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So. What did the Sheriff’s Office do with their old weapons? They can’t use what they were using?
Love to know which model, every Sig I’ve had was absolutely reliable and bomb proof.
It would be funny if mandated firing pin ID was the cause
That would be rich.
They normally sell them to gun dealers. When an LEO agency buys .40s, used 9mms show up on the market.
“Love to know which model, every Sig Ive had was absolutely reliable and bomb proof.”
The more recent models have been buggy, not due to design problems but due to hurried manufacture.
Lots of people complain.
I read somewhere else that it was a small spring that somehow made it so you can’t swap magaazines.
So you are a menace with a mag bigger than, (what is it now 7?)but officer safety can’t be on the streets with less than 15.
My new sig 226 .40 is sweet and has never had a problem.
Thanks... most of mine have been P220’s and variants.
*Deputies refused to describe the description of the failed part, but some range personnel called it “female/queer limp wristing”.
Sig identified a part in this gun that will potentially cause them to malfunction.”
“An issue with the sear spring pin, at the top of the gun, caused two of the departments Sig Sauer handguns to not fire properly. The malfunction was discovered on the firing range, but around 300 guns were already in circulation on the streets.”
P226 in .40
Anyways, I switched to target rounds and had LOTS of FTF and FTEs with weak Winchester and Remington FMJ. Sigh....so I went upstairs and bought a Glock G42 and it ate everything I could put through it.
Hmm...from the story, the officers were back on duty after exchanging firearms and a Sig representative is flying out with parts, so they know what the problem is. I’d love to know myself. Sig has an excellent reputation for reliability.
I was at Front sight in NV and watched a deputy nearly shoot herself in the foot w her Beretta.
P229 carried every day. Shot 1000’s of .40 cal through it, including IDPA. Not even 1 single hiccup, ever. On the other hand, my Colt XSE is very particular when it comes to mags, and ammo. It doesn’t drink the cheap stuff.
I am an XD convert. As reliable with less recoil, better grip and stock sights. I would like to get some work done on the trigger though to remove some of the slack. (just my opinion)
To date, I have NEVER had a single instance with my XD-45 Compact. And I admit to shooting some REALLY cheap no-name ammo through it. Shooting an XD .40 and .45 along side of Glock models is enlightening. It is a bit like the Coke Vs. Pepsi debate, however.
Just goes to show, there is never a bad reason to buy another gun.
My first thought.
They musta had Bloomberg destroy them.
I also own an older XD9. No problem with it, other than the grip.
Glock fits the hand better to me. And I’ve also thrown some cheap ammo through it, hollowpoint, hardball, and it swallowed it fine and spit it out fine as well.
But I’ve carried my G19 every day for the last ten years, and to me, it’s the AK47 of the handgun world... ultra reliable, utilitarian, and rocksolid rugged.
I was just stirring the pot, heheh! Knew people would bite on it...I expect the 1911 gunnies to start berating me anytime now...
The only Sig/Sauer which ever jammed with me was a P-225 and that was with a PMC 90 grain HP. I believe the ammo was more at fault than the gun but still made me not trust the gun.
I tried the same load in a Walther P-38 and it jammed a few times too. I eventually just shot up the remains of two boxes of the PMC ammo in a Browning Hi-Power with no problems.
I have come to believe that double stack mags are more reliable than single stack.
In other news, household pets in San Joaquin County breathed a sigh of relief, and doughnut shops braced for the increased business!
I do not think I have ever heard of a “failed gun range test” by a S&W Highway Patrolman or a Colt Trooper.
I know my Highway Patrolman has worked flawlessly for going on 50 years.
I’m waiting for parts as we speak.
Maybe someone at Sig is a dog lover.
“...never a bad reason to buy another gun....”
Well, to be properly dressed, the fashionable and well-dressed gunny should ALWAYS have at least one for each hand, and one to go with EVERY outfit you might conceivably wear...
This is just common sense!!!
You wouldn’t want something that clashes with your ensemble, now would you?
A nice brace of matched 1858 Remington New Armys goes with ALL fine gentlemen’s apparel, paired up with a fine leather bandolier under the sport jacket.
And the ladies love it...
And the ladies love it...
Top it off (or bottom it off, as the case may be) with one of these, and the ladies will like it even more.
They are fun as hell to shoot too!, and cheap at that!
A SIG failing???
The rivers are drying up and the sky has turned purple!
“*Deputies refused to describe the description of the failed part, but some range personnel called it female/queer limp wristing”
My S&W 625 used to have repeated lockup from screws backing out. I finally solved the problem with loctite.
They're seriously off the rails on quality, and the most shameful thing about it is that they used to be at the pinnacle of quality and customer satisfaction.
This statement is purely my opinion, but SIG Sauer and especially SIG USA is today manufacturing at about the same level of competency as Taurus.
Hard to believe that SIG Sauer used to rival Heckler-Koch in quality and functionality.
More like Sig doesn’t want this to stay in the news. CBP bought enough HK P2000s that most agents will be carrying those their whole career, unfortunately, exposure to salt water climates caused problems with a portion of the firing pin assembly that is not servicable by the user so the marine units switched to Glock.
Local police use Sig 220s. Sig rep dropped off a new model for them to try.
Jammed often. Don’t know what model except they’re .45.
After all, this is Stockton CA.
The Glock doesn't fit my hand as well, isn't as comfortable to shoot, but it is tiny, accurate, and functions flawlessly.
When my daughter was with the police, she used a .40 Sig. Loved it.
Weekly cleaning, oiling and tightening screws may be one of the reasons, I have never had a problem with any wheel gun I have owned. A lesson learned from an old instructor many years ago, who probably never heard of Loctite
Same here. It’s why all but one of our now lost-in-a-boating-accident handguns was a Sig.
My P220s fired everything I put in them. .45 ACP.
Good and bad news for the dogs of the county.
Absolutely the WORST mistake any manufacturing company can make. Shipping numbers over insuring quality will doom your profit, doom your reputation, doom your market share. This was a war I fought for 25 years of my career.
“...some range personnel called it female/queer limp wristing.”
The reason the .40 Short & Weak was developed is because the FBI females could not handle the best semi-automatic handgun round ever developed, the 10mm. They came up with a weakened “FBI load” that became the .40.
A .38 special or 9mm in the head beats a .45 in the vest every time.
Yeah, I don’t think it is the majority, but its enough that people have complained.
I have an older model P229 and have easily shot over 2,000 rounds through it without a hiccup ever. I also have a drop-in 357Sig barrel that I also have shot a lot of rounds through.
I have used my P229 in advanced handgun courses and other training classes and it has never missed a beat and is my go-to weapon.
I’m very surprised at this claim of failure and will monitor what the problem might be?
“I do not think I have ever heard of a failed gun range test by a S&W Highway Patrolman or a Colt Trooper.”
A Colt Trooper is just a Python without the polished bright blue finish and full length lug. Early models were just called the .357.
I had a 4-screw Highway Patrolman that I sold to a collector friend.