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Still paying for the Civil War
WSJ ^ | 09 May 2014 | Michael M. Phillips

Posted on 05/09/2014 10:36:45 AM PDT by Theoria

Veterans' Benefits Live On Long After Bullets Stop

Each month, Irene Triplett collects $73.13 from the Department of Veterans Affairs, a pension payment for her father's military service—in the Civil War.

More than 3 million men fought and 530,000 men died in the conflict between North and South. Pvt. Mose Triplett joined the rebels, deserted on the road to Gettysburg, defected to the Union and married so late in life to a woman so young that their daughter Irene is today 84 years old—and the last child of any Civil War veteran still on the VA benefits rolls.

Ms. Triplett's pension, small as it is, stands as a reminder that war's bills don't stop coming when the guns fall silent. The VA is still paying benefits to 16 widows and children of veterans from the 1898 Spanish-American War.

The last U.S. World War I veteran died in 2011. But 4,038 widows, sons and daughters get monthly VA pension or other payments. The government's annual tab for surviving family from those long-ago wars comes to $16.5 million.

Spouses, parents and children of deceased veterans from World War II, Korea, Vietnam, Kuwait, Iraq and Afghanistan received $6.7 billion in the 2013 fiscal year that ended Sept. 30. Payments are based on financial need, any disabilities, and whether the veteran's death was tied to military service.

Those payments don't include the costs of fighting or caring for the veterans themselves. A Harvard University study last year projected the final bill for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars would hit $4 trillion to $6 trillion in the coming decades.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: benefits; civilwar; history; military; spanishamericanwar; thecivilwar; worldwarone

1 posted on 05/09/2014 10:36:45 AM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria

thanx, interesting


2 posted on 05/09/2014 10:37:51 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Theoria

Looks like no cost-of-living escalator.


3 posted on 05/09/2014 10:44:57 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Theoria
How long will LBJ's "War on Poverty" continue and what will it cost us?

More importantly, what did those who collect on it ever contribute toward building this country or maintaining its freedom's?

4 posted on 05/09/2014 10:45:40 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Theoria
This sounds like the WSJ is suggesting the fed will try to figure out, or more likely, come up with some way to weasel themselves out of having to fulfill those obligations that they promised veterans.

Remember, the obama administration took contract law, and threw it out the window, with GM, Chrysler, bailouts, etc.

5 posted on 05/09/2014 10:46:47 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: factoryrat

Well, .gov tends to underestimate some of the costs prior to entering into such agreements, ObamaRomneycare, Iraq War, etc.


6 posted on 05/09/2014 10:49:03 AM PDT by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: Vigilanteman

That’s it for me, too. At least the veterans actually did some sort of service for the nation. What about all the others who receive money simply for being born in the USA? What exactly has a welfare mom done to earn her payments? How does giving birth to a bunch of illegitimate children compare to dying on a battlefield? If it comes down to cutting, shouldn’t those who never contributed be the first cut?


7 posted on 05/09/2014 10:58:07 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (We can't have an American people that violate the law and then just walk away from it!)
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To: Theoria
Given the VA hospital death list scandal this looks like something a VA media manager ginned up and sent to the WSJ to be published.
8 posted on 05/09/2014 10:59:49 AM PDT by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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To: Theoria
My great grandfather (born in 1842 in Wales) served in the Union Army from 1863 to 1865. His youngest sons, twins, were born in 1887. One of them was my grandfather. My grandfather passed in 1970. My father was born in 1930 (passed in 2003).

The last photo I have of my great grandparents dates to 1912. My great grandfather was 70 by that time. The 84 year old woman in this story would be my father's age. My great grandfather would have been 88 at the time of my father's birth (and the woman in this story). Fathering a child at age 88 seems a bit "odd".

9 posted on 05/09/2014 11:36:49 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

‘Fathering a child at age 88 seems a bit “odd”.’

Not to those who are able!


10 posted on 05/09/2014 11:49:58 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Myrddin

I love stories about how young our Republic really is. President john Tyler (1841-1845) actually has two living grandsons.

Amazing.


11 posted on 05/09/2014 11:50:36 AM PDT by cyclotic (America's premier outdoor adventure association for boys-traillifeusa.com)
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To: Theoria
Here's the quote of the article:

"The promises of President Abraham Lincoln are being delivered, 150 years later, by President Barack Obama, " Secretary Shinseki said in a speech last fall. "And the same will be true 100 years from now—the promises of this president will be delivered by a future president, as yet unborn."

This administration has absolutely zero shame.

12 posted on 05/09/2014 12:08:08 PM PDT by Charlemagne on the Fox
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To: Vigilanteman

That comment doesn’t even belong on this thread.


13 posted on 05/09/2014 12:17:32 PM PDT by redhawk.44mag
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To: factoryrat

Did you read the article? It doesn’t sound like that at all.


14 posted on 05/09/2014 12:17:32 PM PDT by redhawk.44mag
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To: Theoria

This is what our country owes those who gave their lives on its behalf. Its families deserve our esteem and support.


15 posted on 05/09/2014 12:21:51 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: CitizenUSA
What exactly has a welfare mom done to earn her payments?

That's an easy one - she voted for it!

Isn't universal suffrage great!!!

16 posted on 05/09/2014 12:34:54 PM PDT by bkopto (Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.)
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To: TexasRepublic

well, if she is 84 years old, born in 1930, 65 years after the end of the Civil War??? Her father, if he was 20 in 1865 at war’s end, would have done his part in conceiving her at age 84. Well, sounds like he was active and full of life as a senior citizen.


17 posted on 05/09/2014 12:37:47 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: TexasRepublic

‘Fathering a child at age 88 seems a bit “odd”.’

I guess if you were sleeping with a 16 year old girl
it WOULD be possible...Probable even.


18 posted on 05/09/2014 12:41:33 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

He could have been even younger during the war so
it’s not impossible, would need to see a picture of
the wife to determine guilt or innocense...


19 posted on 05/09/2014 12:46:23 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: goldstategop
This is what our country owes those who gave their lives on its behalf. Its families deserve our esteem and support.

OK, I'll be contrary. I've got to question the need for the United States to continue to pay people money for something they didn't even do. THe person in question with the article is a daughter born 65 years after the end of the war in which the man served. What exactly is the point of that?

20 posted on 05/09/2014 1:09:35 PM PDT by zeugma (Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened - Dr. Seuss (I'll see you again someday Hope))
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To: tet68

ya, I know what you mean. He may have had lots of interesting times in his later years, with his young wife, LOL.


21 posted on 05/09/2014 1:15:14 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Theoria

My great grandfather began getting a pension in 1892 (it was $8 a month). After his death, my great Grandmother got a pension, hers for some reason, was only $6 a month.


22 posted on 05/09/2014 1:28:22 PM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I do not doubt that our climate changes. I only doubt that anything man does has any effect.)
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To: Theoria

I wonder how much she gets? My great grandmother collected a pension after the death of my great grandfather, but I think it was only about $2 a month. As far as I know, the children got nothing. Perhaps that is because they were all married. My grandmother was 11th of 13 children who were orphaned when my great grandfather died of the black lung in the 1890s. My grandmother was only about 5. (After the War, he mined coal in PA.) “He was just a lad,” she would say when she cashed her check.

The rest of my family fought for the South, and I don’t think they got anything.


23 posted on 05/09/2014 1:51:55 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: factoryrat

It would cost more to stop those payments than it would to just keep paying them.


24 posted on 05/09/2014 2:01:03 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: zeugma
What exactly is the point of that?

It keeps a gubmint bureaucrat employed. That's the point of every program.

25 posted on 05/30/2014 3:30:15 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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