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Benghazi Isn't Iran-Contra
Wall Street Journal Online ^ | May 8, 2014 | PEGGY NOONAN

Posted on 05/09/2014 2:51:17 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike

The Benghazi investigation should go forward but with knowledge that it will face heavy partisan and media pushback.

Democrats will argue—they already are—that with the country in crisis the attention of Congress should be turned to addressing the issue that weighs most on the public mind: a bad economy with the very top flourishing while the middle is stuck, stressed and sinking.

That will not be a wholly effective line for Democrats. Their and the president's inability to work legislatively with Republicans the past 5½ years has left the American people understanding that nothing's going to get done in the immediate future anyway. Benghazi isn't distracting Congress because they're not doing anything.

The president, detached and defeatist when he isn't in your face and triumphalist, let David Remnick, in the New Yorker interview people keep going back to as the second term's Rosetta stone, know that he himself does not expect any major legislation, with the possible exception of immigration, to get done.

The more effective pushback will come from Big Media. Network leaders, producers and newspaper editors did not go after the story when the first serious questions began to bubble up. Afterward they dismissed the questions as old news. Now they are defensive and resentful. They are not going to help Republican investigators do the job they themselves should have done. (If they'd done it there might be no need for another investigation, because people might feel satisfied they know the essential facts.) Any proof of a Democratic coverup will have the appearance of indicting the media, too.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: benghazi; noonan
But the comparison reflects poorly on the Obama administration.
1 posted on 05/09/2014 2:51:17 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Any proof of a Democratic coverup will indict the media, too.

There, fixed it for you Peg.


2 posted on 05/09/2014 2:54:30 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

“...Congress should be turned to addressing the issue that weighs most on the public mind: a bad economy with the very top flourishing while the middle is stuck, stressed and sinking.”

Where in the heck have they been for the LAST 6 YEARS!


3 posted on 05/09/2014 2:57:09 PM PDT by moovova
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Iran-contra was nothing compared to Benghazi.

Plus the Dems spent 10 years and $50 million going after Oliver North before he finally settled for a plea deal to a minor crime so the Dems could claim victory.


4 posted on 05/09/2014 3:01:09 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Hotlanta Mike

One true thing in this article is that most congressmen have no clue how to ask questions. They spend too much of their a alotted time making speeches instead of asking clear succinct questions. Both in Watergate and Iran Contract the members knew how to formulate questions and seek information not make a media splash. Also there were majority and minority counsels who kept the questioning on track. Unfortunately, except for Gowdy I don’t see this happening.


5 posted on 05/09/2014 3:01:12 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (.You have never tasted freedom, else you would know it is purchased not with gold but with steel)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

No Ambassadors were raped and killed in Iran Contra. Not to mention it was a phony scandal invented by the Dems who passed crooked laws to hurt the Contras.

Pray America will wake up


6 posted on 05/09/2014 3:02:14 PM PDT by bray (The Republic of Texas 2022 is here)
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To: xkaydet65

Boehner Stacks Benghazi Select Committee With Legal Powerhouses

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3154239/posts


7 posted on 05/09/2014 3:02:14 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

I think the other 400+ people in Congress can take up the slack for the committee members.


8 posted on 05/09/2014 3:03:13 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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9 posted on 05/09/2014 3:04:41 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Peggy Noonan is a jerk.


10 posted on 05/09/2014 3:05:16 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Because Iran Contra wasn’t a real scandal. A made up attack by morons on the left.


11 posted on 05/09/2014 3:05:21 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Conservatives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Benghazi Isn't Iran-Contra

No, it is much much worse.

Nobody died in Iran-Contra.

12 posted on 05/09/2014 3:08:37 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Well gee Peggy baby-could it be you and the other ninety-nine percent of the crooked media were wrong about the brown prince when you all crawled up his ass and supported him because it was the "in" thing to back then?
If you were so wrong - how about that apology you female POS!
13 posted on 05/09/2014 3:08:39 PM PDT by Larry381 (The Media Have Become the Enemy of the American people...Pat Caddell)
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To: Cicero

Peggy is an elitist, foolish, wealthy, JERK! She voted this creep into his job while badmouthing the wonderful Sarah. Let her set up housekeeping with Nicole Wallace and leave the rest of us alone.


14 posted on 05/09/2014 3:09:19 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Benghazi is about treason. obama and clinton siding with our enemies. Giving them weapons. Killing Americans.


15 posted on 05/09/2014 3:10:24 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Tell what? The economy is bad and we should all be focused on it? Really? All of a sudden its bad? Cant have it both ways democRATS.


16 posted on 05/09/2014 3:10:36 PM PDT by crz
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To: tet68
CBS and the WH (the Rhodes' brothers) are knee deep in conspiracy to cover-up Benghazi, and that INCLUDES "get the transcripts" Candy Crowley and the debate conspiring against Romney.

I would love to see Emails between CBS's President David Rhodes and his brother at the WH, Ben Rhodes.

17 posted on 05/09/2014 3:12:57 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: Hotlanta Mike
When Hillary Clinton famously asked what difference does it make, none of them had a reply.

I'm sure all of them were speechless. If she runs in 2016, this testimony will be run without comment.

18 posted on 05/09/2014 3:16:26 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Iran-Contra had the goal of freeing Americans held captive abroad.

Was THAT the objective of the huge operation at Bengazi?

No, that objective was to arm the allies of Al Qaeda.

Other than that they both were arms scandals I cannot fathom a single way that the two scandals are similar.


19 posted on 05/09/2014 3:22:17 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Cicero
"Shut up!" he explained.

She goes off her rocker sometimes, I'll grant that, but what about this essay? I think it's quite accurate.
20 posted on 05/09/2014 3:31:53 PM PDT by jobim (.)
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To: gaijin

Not only that, but it supplied funds and equipment to the Contras, circumventing Congress. The only “scandal” was the Dems were outsmarted. The Boland Amendment was only a prohibition, so no criminal conduct occurred.


21 posted on 05/09/2014 3:43:12 PM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Noonan is right in the sense that there is a difference because the party and president in power - Dems - are not cooperating at all, whereas Reagan and his administration actually did cooperate in the investigation of Iran Contra.

Otherwise, it’s very similar, because it was clearly an attempt to do something with getting weapons to a group to whom they could not legally be funneled, in exchange for various supposed favors. But then it’s different, because in the case of Obama, he was trying to funnel them to Islamic radicals who hate us, unlike Reagan, who was trying to take down the America-hating Iranian leadership, which by then had become heroes to the Dems, and it backfired.

As for the reason no GOPer had a response to Hillary when she screamed “What difference does it make?” is that I think they - like all of us - were so stunned that the only responses would have been obscenities or an order to arrest that traitor right away. I must say I was really left open-mouthed when I saw that Hillary had said this - and was then congratulated by the Dems for her great wit.


22 posted on 05/09/2014 3:46:05 PM PDT by livius
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Democrats will argue—they already are—that with the country in crisis the attention of Congress should be turned to addressing the issue that weighs most on the public mind: a bad economy with the very top flourishing while the middle is stuck, stressed and sinking.

First of all it's the demonrats and zeros policies for the last years that have flushed the middle class down the toilet and secondly, WTF? The issue that the demonrats are most concerned with is amnesty, they could give a crap about the economy and the middle class.

23 posted on 05/09/2014 3:49:49 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Why not compare it to the `October surprise'?

Democrats and employees of the MSM flooded the public with rumors, rumors and more rumors about an October Surprise.

There was action in the Democrat controlled House.

(Internet source) "Democratic leaders on Monday announced a congressional investigation. They acknowledged a lack of `conclusive evidence of wrongdoing,' but House Speaker Thomas S. Foley said the inquiry would be an effort to `put these allegations to rest.'"

Or put more succinctly, "We have to investigate because there is no evidence."

Rats wanted to investigate back then because there was no evidence and complain of being victims today when compelling additional evidence was forced out of the Administration virtually proving a (criminal?) coverup.

24 posted on 05/09/2014 4:08:53 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Pushback. The media is pushing back whom?

Trey Gowdy?

No.

Noonan, and a lot of people, don’t understand something.

This is an international incident.

Our Administration, the State Department left people behind.

It is a case. An open, unresolved case.

Trey Gowdy is going to lead it. He doesn’t play for the camera. He’s not john boner.

This transcends the media, Nancy Pelosi, Obama and Hillary.

How can Noonan not get this? I mean I know she can be ditzy, but...


25 posted on 05/09/2014 4:11:10 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Hotlanta Mike
PeggyNoonan photo PeggyNoonan_zps845e3a95.jpg

26 posted on 05/09/2014 4:49:32 PM PDT by Col Freeper (FR: A smorgasbord of Conservative Mindfood - dig in and enjoy it!)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
You're right, Piggy. Benghazi Isn't Iran-Contra.

It's much, much worse.

27 posted on 05/09/2014 4:56:27 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: minnesota_bound

……………and the cover-up

Nixon’s cover up pales in comparison to this.


28 posted on 05/09/2014 5:00:41 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Hotlanta Mike

I hope Fox channel gives wall to wall coverage


29 posted on 05/09/2014 5:28:53 PM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Here’s what the Surrender Agreement that Obama and Hillary agreed to looks like.

Al Qaeda will:
1. Return the Ambassador’s body and the bodies of all dead Americans.
2. Allow the 31 CIA employees to leave Benghazi unharmed.
3. Not release details of this agreement to the American people or press.
4. Not shoot down any civilian airliners.

The United States will:
1. Not attempt a rescue of the CIA employees.
2. Not conduct any military operations in Benghazi.
3. Have the President and Secretary of State make and air a program for the Muslim faithful where they apologize for insulting our prophet.
4. Provide Al Qaeda with armored vehicles, weapons, night vision equipment and funds.
5. Support Al Qaeda and the Moslem religion in the press and in any other way.

Now do you see why they want this covered up? Now, do you see what Chuck Schumer was doing at The White House that night”


30 posted on 05/09/2014 5:32:40 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: miss marmelstein

Her and MoDo are drinking buddies. I mean, like, heavy drinking buddies.


31 posted on 05/09/2014 6:47:58 PM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
...with the country in crisis...and the major reason this country is in crisis is not the bad economy, 'rats - that's only a symptom of the real problem - total lack of confidence in the leadership of this president and his administration - the belief that the people are routinely lied to, that there is no consistent policy direction, that favoritism and partisanship determine how people are treated by the government - how better to start attacking this root problem than by finally finding out what happened at Benghazi and holding those involved accountable???.....
32 posted on 05/09/2014 9:32:19 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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