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Pro-Russian Civilians Killed in Mariupol (Ukraine)
Live Leak ^ | 05/09/2014 | Video

Posted on 05/09/2014 4:23:17 PM PDT by BurningOak

***WARNING GRAPHIC VIOLENCE***

Ignore propaganda from both sides. Watch video at link and make up your own opinion. Two more videos from different angles at bottom of post.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: agitprop; civilwar; communism; communists; democrats; neocons; obama; putinsbuttboys; russia; secondamendment; sovietunion; surrendermonkeys; ukraine
Again video is here:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b0c_1399671187

Here are two more videos of same event from different angles.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1a2_1399642439

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bfb_1399649998

1 posted on 05/09/2014 4:23:17 PM PDT by BurningOak
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To: BurningOak

Again video is here:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b0c_1399671187

Here are two more videos of same event from different angles.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1a2_1399642439

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bfb_1399649998


2 posted on 05/09/2014 4:23:36 PM PDT by BurningOak (Live Free or Die)
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To: BurningOak

Who is who in the videos?


3 posted on 05/09/2014 4:36:10 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 ((VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!))
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To: BurningOak

The “pro-russian civilian” in cammo pants at 00:48 is wearing a jacket that says “SPETZNAZ” on the back. Just saying.


4 posted on 05/09/2014 4:37:12 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: Red_Devil 232

The civilians are pro-Russian, the guys with the guns are Kiev supporting Ukrainians.


5 posted on 05/09/2014 4:38:43 PM PDT by BurningOak (Live Free or Die)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Who is who in the videos?

Blue is the color of the opposition to orange.

6 posted on 05/09/2014 4:41:51 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: BurningOak
There was at least one guy in that crowd (the one in digital camo pants) with what appears to be a sidearm. The crowd was pretty noisy, although overtly violent in the film shown.

Seems to me like warning shots gone awry. Happens sometimes when you are in Ukraine agitating to have your country taken over by Soviets.

7 posted on 05/09/2014 4:43:57 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: BurningOak

Wondered how long it’d last in Breaking News, not long.


8 posted on 05/09/2014 4:50:57 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

“Wondered how long it’d last in Breaking News, not long.”

Why? I don’t know how breaking news works, it seemed like pretty important stuff that could be a prelude to a wider conflict in Eastern Europe. Are you saying you don’t think this is news or do you think it will be taken off because it shows Kremlin forces in a negative light?


9 posted on 05/09/2014 4:53:36 PM PDT by BurningOak (Live Free or Die)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Also, if you pause it when the guy with the bottle makes a cameo, it is clearly a molotov cocktail. Another guy a little later in the video clearly points a revolver at the pro-Ukrainian soldiers/security forces.


10 posted on 05/09/2014 4:54:33 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

The EUkraine is auditioning for NATO status. I’d say the skinhead portion is indeed worthy of it.


11 posted on 05/09/2014 4:56:10 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: SeeSharp

That’s Russian for San Antonio Spurs, isn’t it?


12 posted on 05/09/2014 5:13:16 PM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: BurningOak

Wow a lot of selfies going on.


13 posted on 05/09/2014 5:49:13 PM PDT by windcliff
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To: BurningOak

“The civilians are pro-Russian, the guys with the guns are Kiev supporting Ukrainians.”

Uh, except for the armed Russians like the one at 2:13 who you clearly see lift his pistol and soon after fires at the Ukrainians. Just saying...


14 posted on 05/09/2014 6:46:29 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Yep, I noticed the Molotov Cocktails too. They were spoiling for a fight. The Ukrainians fired into the ground in front of them numerous times. I would be surprised to discover that the guy with the head wound was armed as well.


15 posted on 05/09/2014 6:48:09 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: BurningOak

Ukrainian Crisis is about Taxes
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3153983/posts


16 posted on 05/09/2014 8:05:52 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: vladimir998

~Yep, I noticed the Molotov Cocktails too. They were spoiling for a fight. The Ukrainians fired into the ground in front of them numerous times. I would be surprised to discover that the guy with the head wound was armed as well.~

I noticed Molotovs at Maidan Square in Kiev a couple months ago, yet a couple of fire bombers and gun-toting nazis, who actualy burned police officers, shot by yet to be identified snipers was an impeacheble offence for the later president.
But now it’s ok to fly jets and choppers to intimidate federalists, and it is ok to drive tanks into towns and kill people because they don’t like whose from the government who came to help them?
If it is not a hypocrisy, what is it?


17 posted on 05/09/2014 8:14:46 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: wetphoenix

“If it is not a hypocrisy, what is it?”

Ukrainians have the exclusive right to decide what happens to Ukraine. Russians have exactly zero right to decide what happens to Ukraine.


18 posted on 05/09/2014 8:38:35 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

Whom do you mean by ‘the Russians’?


19 posted on 05/09/2014 8:43:55 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: BurningOak
Please examine your video: So hiding behind like-minded, Pro-Russian Separatists shoot at the military & trying to throw something at them (on the right you see the Molotov cocktail) Then, you will understand they hide BEHIND residents. All the peaceful inhabitants are sitting at home, or at least does not try to chase the military!
20 posted on 05/09/2014 8:52:42 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: wetphoenix
Ukraine is for Ukrainians, not Russians. And I have no sympathy for those who love their country so little that they want it to become subjugated to another.

The reason many of these people are rioting is because they are ethnic Russians -- they have no other reason for wanting Russia to take over Ukraine. Same type of people as the Mexicans who flood California and wave La Raza banners and burn American flags. I have no patience for them.

21 posted on 05/09/2014 9:00:29 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: wetphoenix

“Whom do you mean by ‘the Russians’?”

Whom do you think?


22 posted on 05/09/2014 9:21:53 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: BurningOak

You have a city 48% Ukrainian and 44% Russian there will be trouble due to outside agitation. Russia needs this area if they ever hope to support Crimea.


23 posted on 05/09/2014 10:06:57 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: BurningOak
They tried to do what happened in dozens of places before. Armed “separatists” surrounded by a group of hostile civilians, mainly old commies grandpas and young criminals, approach government forces and disarm them as they are cautious about shooting at “civilians”. Then RT and all Kremlin propaganda machine scream that army refuses to obey orders of “Kiev junta”, there's an uprising against “fascists” and all that nonsense.

When 1 armed guy is hiding behind 5 hostile “civilians”, they all should be shot so others will think twice before they try to get in the way of government formations, I know how it sounds but It must get worse before it gets better. Otherwise it all will evolve into long Balkan style disaster with hundreds of thousands killed. That's what Putler is intentionally triggering off, once it turns into full scale massacre, “the world” will forget about Crimea, he will get away with it and many other concessions in exchange for stopping the disaster he created. That's what they have been doing with Iran, we can enable them to get nukes... or not but why should we do that ? Kremlin never cared about people, even their own.

24 posted on 05/10/2014 9:24:15 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: vladimir998

“Ukrainians have the exclusive right to decide what happens to Ukraine.”

**************

Not according to this guy:
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/05/01/van-rompuy-says-europe-will-expand-without-public-backing

If your ‘nation’ is polite fiction in peacetime, and a speedbump to real powers during wartime, you might just be a wog to the EU.


25 posted on 05/10/2014 10:54:41 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: Psalm 144

“Not according to this guy”

Yes, even according to him because he knows the Ukrainians have to approve of EU membership by law before the EU has any say in Ukraine. It also works in reverse the same way. Turkey wants into the EU. So far the EU has said no.


26 posted on 05/10/2014 11:03:02 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Grzegorz 246; BurningOak

“They tried to do what happened in dozens of places before. Armed “separatists” surrounded by a group of hostile civilians, mainly old commies grandpas and young criminals, approach government forces and disarm them as they are cautious about shooting at “civilians”. Then RT and all Kremlin propaganda machine scream that army refuses to obey orders of “Kiev junta”, there’s an uprising against “fascists” and all that nonsense.”

EXACTLY RIGHT!!!


27 posted on 05/10/2014 11:05:09 AM PDT by vladimir998
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