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Illinois museum has Santa Anna’s leg, and Texas site wants it
Dallas News ^ | May 8, 2014 | Christy Hoppe

Posted on 05/10/2014 4:51:55 AM PDT by billorites

AUSTIN — The petition to wrest Santa Anna’s leg from Illinois and bring it to Texas was flat-footed from the start.

But Texas museum officials believe their heart was in the right place, even if that prosthetic leg is not.

Last month, the San Jacinto Battle Monument and Museum launched a petition on the White House website, hoping to get 100,000 signatures to lure an important artifact to Texas. It suggested that the wooden and cork leg used by Gen. Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna — the villain of the Alamo and Goliad and a figure deeply embedded in Texas lore — should join other historical items in a Texas museum.

The leg, curiously enough, is in the Illinois State Military Museum in Springfield. And officials there are in no mood to give it up.

“We know Santa Anna is a big deal in Texas history,” said museum curator Bill Lear. “But it’s here. It’s going to stay here. You don’t trade artifacts.”

Given that attitude, San Jacinto museum officials thought a petition might do something to kick it loose.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: youcankeepit

1 posted on 05/10/2014 4:51:55 AM PDT by billorites
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To: billorites

Texas should have a leg up on that request.


2 posted on 05/10/2014 4:56:47 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: billorites

Good grief! People find the damnedest things to fight over.

I’m a 7th generation Texan—and I can’t imagine wanting Santa Anna’s artificial leg for a museum.

I must be missing something here..


3 posted on 05/10/2014 4:57:23 AM PDT by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: billorites

I’d tell Texas to take a hike.


4 posted on 05/10/2014 4:58:50 AM PDT by stormer
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To: stormer

I live in Illinois and I can assure you that Texas won’t be able to walk all over us.


5 posted on 05/10/2014 5:00:27 AM PDT by flaglady47 (Oppressors can tyranize only w/a standing army-enslaved press-disarmed populace)
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To: basil
I must be missing something here..

Probably his shoe and Michigan has that.........we're not giving it back either.

6 posted on 05/10/2014 5:00:34 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Under Reagan spring always arrived on time.....)
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To: Hot Tabasco

LOL!

You may keep it—with my blessing……...


7 posted on 05/10/2014 5:01:50 AM PDT by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Hmmm, the author of this article must have one leg with no prosthetic too.


8 posted on 05/10/2014 5:03:10 AM PDT by flaglady47 (Oppressors can tyranize only w/a standing army-enslaved press-disarmed populace)
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To: billorites

Damn Yankees!


9 posted on 05/10/2014 5:05:11 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: basil

You’re missing a leg.


10 posted on 05/10/2014 5:07:21 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: billorites

I live in the bankrupt (financially and politically) state of Illinoisistan. I suggest the leg be put up for auction on Ebay. We need the $.


11 posted on 05/10/2014 5:08:25 AM PDT by Lawgvr1955 ( Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: billorites

Careful here. The BLM may claim it as they do all property that there is any dispute as to who it rightfully belongs.


12 posted on 05/10/2014 5:11:53 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin
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To: billorites

I reckon Texas doesn’t have a leg to stand on.


13 posted on 05/10/2014 5:12:47 AM PDT by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

LOL!


14 posted on 05/10/2014 5:16:49 AM PDT by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: basil

People from Texas tried to dig up Moses Austin’s grave in Potosi MO to take back to Texas, but were stopped. A concrete cap was poured over the grave site to prevent it from happening again.


15 posted on 05/10/2014 5:25:31 AM PDT by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo.)
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To: billorites

Meanwhile, if I recall my history, Santa Anna’s real leg was burred in Mexico City with lavish pomp and ceremony in something vaguely resembling Napoleon’s tomb. This happened during one of the half-dozen times he was Mexico’s president. However, a short time later, having overstayed his welcome, as he always did, angry Mexicans ran him out of town, dug out his leg, and threw it in the river.


16 posted on 05/10/2014 5:28:52 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: billorites

Isn’t there some story about Stonewall Jackson’s actual leg buried somewhere other than with the rest of his body? And where’s Santa Anna’s real leg?


17 posted on 05/10/2014 5:30:34 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: MCF

Crazy people are everywhere…..


18 posted on 05/10/2014 5:31:28 AM PDT by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: billorites
Trying to think of a reason that this issue is important.

Frankly, I'm stumped...

19 posted on 05/10/2014 5:39:42 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Sacajaweau
You’re missing a leg.

It's just a flesh wound...

20 posted on 05/10/2014 5:41:02 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: billorites

Sounds like a knee jerk action by Illinois.

They will probably toe the line.


21 posted on 05/10/2014 5:44:20 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: flaglady47

“Hmmm, the author of this article must have one leg with no prosthetic too.”

Too subtle? Author’s name: Christy Hoppe


22 posted on 05/10/2014 5:44:28 AM PDT by flaglady47 (Oppressors can tyranize only w/a standing army-enslaved press-disarmed populace)
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To: billorites

No way man,
Put a sneaker on it and throw it in the waters around Cape Flattery.
Seems to be where everyone else disposes of em now a days.


23 posted on 05/10/2014 5:46:41 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: billorites

He was a leg end in his own time.


24 posted on 05/10/2014 5:53:30 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Malaysia Flight MH370 Black Box signals reported in Bermuda Triangle)
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To: Mercat

When I visited the Chancellorsville battlefield some years ago, the guide pointed out the private property where Stonewall Jackson’s arm (left?) was buried after being amputated. Jackson died about a week later.


25 posted on 05/10/2014 5:59:45 AM PDT by vaskypilot
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To: MCF

Wow you weren’t kiddin .....

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/a-look-back-undertaker-from-texas-tried-to-move-moses/article_9af29338-5da7-52b1-8d4f-317d94db7450.html


26 posted on 05/10/2014 6:04:43 AM PDT by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: Lawgvr1955

As a fellow Illannoyan, I can assure you any money Texas might pay for that leg would go straight into Quinn’s pocket.


27 posted on 05/10/2014 6:04:57 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha. 1 Cor 16: 32)
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To: flaglady47

“Hopefully you will stay in Illinois”....


28 posted on 05/10/2014 6:08:29 AM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: snoringbear

“Hopefully you will stay in Illinois”....

Rather snarky this morning, are we? Maybe you need to go back to sleep, snoring....


29 posted on 05/10/2014 6:21:48 AM PDT by flaglady47 (Oppressors can tyranize only w/a standing army-enslaved press-disarmed populace)
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To: billorites; All
only the leg? ..what about the arm, too?
What's next? ..the Gov't. wants everything.
*cue music*
"take all of me..c'mon, take all of me..."

30 posted on 05/10/2014 6:23:28 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Bathhouse/"Rustler" Reid? :-)
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To: billorites

How did Santa Anna loose his leg?....was he defeeted in battle?


31 posted on 05/10/2014 6:47:30 AM PDT by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more.)
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To: basil

Agree.

There is just something about people that don’t really work for a living or actually produce anything.


32 posted on 05/10/2014 7:25:53 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: tophat9000

As the story goes so went the leg:

Santa Ana’s leg went north. ;-)

Gen. Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna could be lucky in war, notably at the Alamo, but he had a problem with food, and it was notable. He lost his leg in the French Pastry War, fought between France and Mexico in 1838. His personal heroism in battle resulted in having several horses shot out from under him, and the loss of half of his left leg.

Then in 1842 he arranged for an elaborate ceremony to dig up the remains of his leg, and to parade with it through Mexico City Afterwards was placed on a prominent monument for all to see.

Then in 1847, facing the United States at the Battle of Cerro Gordo in Mexico, he stopped paying attention to the war long enough to savor a roasted chicken. His lunch was interrupted by the uninvited, unexpected regiment of Illinoisans, who ate the general’s chicken and carried off his new cork leg. Santa Anna hobbled away to fight another day.

Some of the soldiers returned to Piatt County, where the town of Griswold was renamed Cerro Gordo in commemoration of the battle. The Volunteers regiment would eventually become the Illinois National Guard, and its trophy of war, Santa Anna’s cork leg, now resides in the Guard’s museum, Camp Lincoln in Springfield.

Over the years, the Mexican government has asked for Santa Anna’s leg back. Not that it would do the general any good, though it might show a little sensitivity. Artificial legs aren’t as funny as they were in the 1850s, when veterans charged a nickel or a dime for curiosity seekers to handle the leg in hotel bars.


33 posted on 05/10/2014 7:27:53 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: basil

Someone at the San Jacinto Battlefield Museum thought it would be a cool thing to have, I guess. But it has no context for the battle of Texas independence. I wonder how many signatures that petition got? They only say it didn’t get the minimum 100,000 required. I’d be surprised if it got 1,000.


34 posted on 05/10/2014 7:28:55 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: flaglady47

TEXAS ain’t trying to walk all over you. This is some pinhead who piddles around for a living.

The last thing us Texans give a hoot in hell about is Santa Anna’s fake leg. We booted him out 178 years ago, leg and all.

Illinoise is your own worst enemy on many fronts, Texan’s ain’t worried about anything you’ve got.


35 posted on 05/10/2014 7:31:18 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: Iron Munro

Let’s give the leg to O’bama .... the media’s leg has been pulled out of shape and he needs something to keep his leg pulling muscles excercises.


36 posted on 05/10/2014 7:39:06 AM PDT by teppe (... for my God ... for my Family ... for my Country ....)
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To: basil

I agree, I am as much of a Texan as you are and we kicked his butt and don’t need his leg.


37 posted on 05/10/2014 7:49:51 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: billorites
When Santa Anna slaughtered Texans at Goliad and the Alamo, then when he was captured after San Jacinto, he had both legs. He lost his leg in 1838 battling the French at Veracruz.

His "shoot the prisoners" philosophy came from his first commander in the Spanish Army when they fought Rebels in the early 1800's. This may have cowed Mexicans, but executing soldiers in cold blood seems to really pi$$ off Americans. Instead of cowing us, it gets our dander up, and folks who might have been ambivalent about hurting another human will become savage. See my Tagline.

38 posted on 05/10/2014 8:04:24 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Nothing is more savage and brutal than justifiably angry Americans. DonÂ’t believe me? Ask the Germa)
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To: billorites
Everyone knows that Cotton Hill stole Santa Anna's leg from the Arlen Museum in King of the Hill's 'The Final Shinsult'.


39 posted on 05/10/2014 8:14:29 AM PDT by Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage (Not my circus, not my monkeys.)
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To: billorites

““The leg is a big draw for our museum,” Lear said. “It’s a centerpiece.””

An artificial leg is a center piece for a museum? Not going to waste my time on that one.


40 posted on 05/10/2014 8:54:09 AM PDT by Rannug ("all enemies, foreign and domestic")
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To: billorites
Given that attitude, San Jacinto museum officials thought a petition might do something to kick it loose.

A good, ol' fashioned invasion might serve to kick it loose and repatriate it to Texas.

41 posted on 05/10/2014 9:21:02 AM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats--the party of Evil. Republicans--the party of Stupid.)
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To: Rannug
"An artificial leg is a center piece for a museum? "

Could happen.

42 posted on 05/10/2014 9:28:20 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Ditter
He styled himself “The Victor of Tampico” and “The Savior of the Motherland”. His main act of self-promotion was to call himself “The Napoleon of the West”.

Sounds like he was ever much so the narcissist.

43 posted on 05/10/2014 10:38:53 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: flaglady47

“Rather snarky this morning, are we? Maybe you need to go back to sleep, snoring....”

Yeah, guess I was. We texans are actually friendly by nature. However, I’m concerned that all these transplants coming in will do the same to Texas that Californians did to Colorado...


44 posted on 05/10/2014 1:54:44 PM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: Uncle Chip

I knew the story..my post was a pun..deFEETed


45 posted on 05/10/2014 2:25:47 PM PDT by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more.)
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To: RobinOfKingston

If you Texans are going to bother to saddle up and invade Illinois for the leg, please feel free to take Chicago while you’re at it.


46 posted on 05/10/2014 3:04:49 PM PDT by 2111USMC (Aim Small Miss Small)
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To: Uncle Chip

The Illinois state house used to have an amazing display of Civil War flags from Illinois regiments and captured confederate flags. Sort of a giant Victorian display case at the head of the stairs off the lobby. I saw it as a kid. Apparently they’ve gotten old and brittle so they took them down 30 years ago and have them stored flat at a museum.


47 posted on 05/10/2014 3:24:17 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels"-- Tom Waits)
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To: PUGACHEV

The Leg needs to be in Texas! He lost the leg in the so called Pastry War with France—he was a hero then for leading the attack on the French—they withdrew and Santa Ana became president—where upon he shreaded the Constution of 1824. In time the Meexican people woke up and kicked him out—After he lead them in a disasterious war with the US and lost 1/3 of their nation. (They still wonder—what might have happened if he threw in his reserves at The Battle of Buena Vista—rather than running away and leaving his army to the mercy of the Yanquies.


48 posted on 05/10/2014 6:12:25 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: billorites

“It’s a major award.”


49 posted on 05/10/2014 6:14:57 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage

Utterly hilarious episode. I especially like the public service bit at the end where Hank asks viewers to write to Dick Durbin.


50 posted on 05/11/2014 2:55:12 PM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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