Posted on 05/10/2014 7:09:22 AM PDT by nuconvert
Those who know the files he stole think he was working for a foreign power, perhaps Russia, where he now lives.
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The vast majority of those [stolen documents] were related to our military capabilities, operations, tactics, techniques and procedures.
...the media and Mr. Snowden's admirers have only his word as to what went on. His detractors are the people who know enough about what happened to conclude that far from being a whistleblower, Mr. Snowden was a participant in an espionage operation...
(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...
If Snowden was a professional he’s still be at NSA and his handlers would have the data and we would have never heard about it.
I agree 100%.. Snowden could not have done what he did had he not had inside help with the blessings of Team Hussein. Americans don’t realize that Barry is a foreigner who is sabotaging America, let alone irreversibly bankrupting us.
Only if you were not paying attention. Snowden's revelations more or less confirmed our suspicions. Waco. Ruby Ridge. 911. This government is not our friend and is not our protector.
When you elect scoundrels and thieves to rule over you, do not be surprised when they behave as scoundrels and thieves.
My point exactly. Now everyone knows, and there is evidence to prove it.
That’s much worse than I thought. He didn’t hack anything, he just walked out the front door with everything.
Much like Obama who will be leaving office. No doubt with a suitcase full of hard drives, maybe 200 terabytes plus/minus. The vitals on say 300,000 of the most prominent Tea Partiers, Conservatives, Republicans and business execs. It will be the most profitable political consulting business in history.
Which makes him a hero IMO, regardless of methods or motivation.
Fedgov is not your friend, and hasn't been for decades.
Exactly.
He is portrayed by some as a shadowy hacker who secretly crept around our systems looking for info to steal. Some have even "reported" that he stole passwords from his co-workers to get to the data. Couldn't be further from the truth.
It is amazing how little most people know about the matter. Even freepers who are naturally curious and well read have swallowed the MSM's weak sauce as fact.
Later he told an implausible story about CIA personnel getting a Swiss banker drunk, allowing him to be arrested by police, then rescuing him in exchange for confidential information. He said this alleged incident disillusioned him. According to Wikipedia: “Eric Schmitt of The New York Times stated that two senior American officials told him that, prior to the end of Snowden’s term, Snowden’s supervisor wrote a negative report that stated suspicions of Snowden attempting to obtain classified information not authorized to him.”
It's possible Snowden was recruited by Russian intelligence operatives in 2007 while in Switzerland and then directed to seek a position with an NSA contractor back in the states. Once Snowden obtained a large haul of NSA data at his NSA job he was directed to Hong Kong where he made his disclosure about NSA’s data collections programs.
Snowden’s announcement came a few days before Obama was scheduled to meet with Chinese leadership and complain about Chinese hacking of U.S. high-tech science. The entire Snowden drama in 2013 may have been orchestrated by Vla Putin to embarrass Obama. In fact Putin may now be in possession of NSA files that could deeply embarrass the White House (if that's possible) or even prove criminal wrongdoings. If Putin is blackmailing Obama it would explain the president's peculiar approach to foreign policy and Obama insistence on suppressing U.S. oil and gas domestic production.
Edward Snowden’s Secret (Agent) Admirer: Spy Anna Chapman
The establishment can try to smear it any way they want. Foreign governments would not want Snowden’s information public. The blackmail factor alone outweighs the public embarrassment of an incompetent government.
Let’s call him a whistle blower of the first order. I only hope he keeps dumping stuff. Bad on our country to think the government is more important than their citizen masters.
Oh, yeow, I agree with you. Snowden exposed nefarious spying against his countrymen. Good for him. What about that is wrong? A courageous effort of playing hardball at great risk.
I just don’t think he would have blabbed it here, and sent the rest to London for safe keeping, if some country paid him in the first place. Certainly they would expect sole posession of the revelations. No, he cracked the security because he could. What he saw, he didn’t like. The rest is history.
Then let's send him a Sino-Russian bullet. Works for me.
In a complete absence of candor and information, you're going to bash FReepers for not getting this one right from the beginning?
When 95% of the info is suppressed or stolen, and a vast cloud of lies is the universal environment, how are ordinary people supposed to come to perspicuous conclusions? Just back up a bit.
Even while making a backup of the entire database, the number of times a database is accessed, and the target address of the transfer is, or should have been, logged. Any destination other than the backup servers should have raised red flags.
He was either improperly supervised, or the NSA was negligent in performing basic data security, even with a “trusted” contractor.
No, the questions have never been answered.
I’m sure that there are procedures in place today to prevent another “Snowden,” and it was my question why those procedures weren’t in place then.
Throwing your hands up and saying “oh well, he had Admin rights and was contracted to backup the data base” doesn’t cut it. Who at the NSA lost their jobs over this security breach? Who at the NSA has been prosecuted for criminal negligence?
No, the questions have never been answered.
Not even close to what I said. It has been a full year since the Snowden story came about and there is plenty of information out there. Bashing freepers? You are kidding, right?
When 95% of the info is suppressed or stolen, and a vast cloud of lies is the universal environment, how are ordinary people supposed to come to perspicuous conclusions?
Start with the wikipedia page, follow all the links in the footnotes, and go from there. Make an afternoon of it if it interests you. Just skip over what you determine to be in the "cloud of lies" and focus on the facts that are not in dispute, like Snowden's work history. It is a fascinating story.
Just back up a bit.
If you spend some time reading on the topic and then come back and read this thread, you'll understand why I said what I said. Because it's true.
I didn't bash anybody, and I have nothing to back up from. I posted about my observations.
Freegards...
Those aren't even close to the questions you said weren't answered upthread. Now you are asking, "How could this have happened? and Who is going to pay?" Very different query.
Even if his job was to build a duplicate database, there are still controls and audits on the access and movement of the data.
If I asked how the 20 year old cashier managed to steal all the credit card numbers used at his Taco Bell and was given the answer "well, it was his job to cash out the registers and put the recipts in the safe." My response would be the same. How did he make off with all those recipts? You know damn well the manager put in checks and balances to prevent another theft, and should have had those checks in place all along.
Are there?
Obama's foreign policy failures are due to the way his initial Presidential campaign was constructed. He could not send American boots on the ground to any new conflict. Not after the way he railed about US troops in Iraq. Thus he was forced to use mercenaries, terrorists, Nazi's and street thugs to be his boots on the ground. It failed miserably in Libya, Egypt and Syria. It has hit a wall of Russian armor in Ukraine. To get out of this log jam, the Oligarchy will create a crisis that drags the US boots on the ground into the conflict.
Obama's domestic oil policy is being driven by the House of Saud and the Enviro lobby.
Bump & thank you
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