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China may build an undersea train to America
The Washington Post ^ | 09 May 2014 | Ishaan Tharoor

Posted on 05/10/2014 8:46:00 AM PDT by Theoria

China is planning to build a train line that would, in theory, connect Beijing to the United States. According to a report in the Beijing Times, citing an expert at the Chinese Academy of Engineering, Chinese officials are considering a route that would start in the country's northeast, thread through eastern Siberia and cross the Bering Strait via a 125-mile long underwater tunnel into Alaska.

"Right now we're already in discussions. Russia has already been thinking about this for many years," says Wang Mengshu, the engineer cited in the article. The proposed "China-Russia-Canada-America" line would be some 8,000 miles long, 1,800 miles longer than the Trans-Siberian railroad. The tunnel that the Chinese would help bore beneath the icy seas would be four times the length of what traverses the English Channel.

That's reason enough to be skeptical of the project, of which there are few details beyond what was attributed to the one official cited by the state-run Beijing Times. Meanwhile, a report in the state-run China Daily insists the country does have the technology and means to complete a construction project of this scale, including another tunnel that would link the Chinese province of Fujian with nearby Taiwan.

In the past half decade or so, China has embarked on an astonishing rail construction spree, laying down tens of thousands of miles tracks and launching myriad high-speed lines. It has signaled its intent to build a "New Silk Road" -- a heavy-duty freight network through Central Asia that would connect with Europe via rail rather than the old caravans that once bridged West and East. A map that appeared on Xinhua's news site outlines the route below, alongside a parallel vision for a "maritime Silk Road."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: china; ocean; train
Some other plans:


1 posted on 05/10/2014 8:46:00 AM PDT by Theoria
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To: Cronos; Willie Green

ping.


2 posted on 05/10/2014 8:47:44 AM PDT by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: Theoria

I.G.Y. (International Geophysical Year)
Donald Fagen

Standing tough under stars and stripes
We can tell
This dream`s in sight
You`ve got to admit it
At this point in time that it`s clear
The future looks bright
On that train all graphite and glitter
Undersea by rail
Ninety minutes from NewYork to Paris
Well by seventy-six we`ll be A.O.K.

What a beautiful world this will be
What a glorious time to be free

Get your ticket to that wheel in space
While there`s time
The fix is in
You`ll be a witness to that game of chance in the sky
You know we`ve go to win
Here at home we`ll play in the city
Powered by the sun
Perfect weather for a streamlined world
There`ll be spandex jackets one for everyone

What a beautiful world this`ll be
What a glorious time to be free

On that train all graphite and glitter
Undersea by rail
Ninety minutes from NewYork to Paris
(More leisure for artists everywhere)
A just machine to make big decisions
Programmed by fellows with compassion and vision
We`ll be clean when their work is done
We`ll be eternally free yes and eternally young

What a beautiful world this`ll be
What a glorious time to be free.....


3 posted on 05/10/2014 8:48:42 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Theoria

Sounds like a Popular Science pipe dream.


4 posted on 05/10/2014 8:49:10 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

It can probably be done, but would it be worth it?


5 posted on 05/10/2014 8:51:29 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Jonty30

True, some plans of tunnels and bridges across the Bering Straight are 150 years old, the problem is boats are more convenient to move goods across Pacific.


6 posted on 05/10/2014 8:56:27 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: dfwgator

“What a beautiful world this will be
What a glorious time to be free”

what a prescient song that was!


7 posted on 05/10/2014 9:01:47 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

well i hope it is as successful as a similar project underway in Seattle Washington.well,if anything major goes wrong they can always get Godzilla to move any heavy equipment that gets stuck in the earth.


8 posted on 05/10/2014 9:03:26 AM PDT by Cruz_West_Paul2016
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To: Theoria

Let’s see: a 125 mile long underwater tunnel built by the Chinese. What could possibly go wrong?


9 posted on 05/10/2014 9:06:02 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Theoria

How many Teutonic plate zones would that tunnel pass?

I would never ride inside such a tunnel.


10 posted on 05/10/2014 9:06:20 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Theoria

Don’t they have airplanes?


11 posted on 05/10/2014 9:11:36 AM PDT by Wage Slave
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To: Theoria
oops. Missed this one:

China mulls high-speed train to US: report

12 posted on 05/10/2014 9:15:15 AM PDT by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: wetphoenix

Not to mention connecting the two sides of the narrow parts of the Bering Straight is connecting nowhere to nowhere.


13 posted on 05/10/2014 9:17:06 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Theoria

Reminds me of Cal S. Bunyan, Paul Bunyan’s brother, who constructed a railroad known as the Ireland, Jerusalem, Australian & Southern Michigan Line.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wabash_Cannonball#Origins


14 posted on 05/10/2014 9:18:18 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (This is known as "bad luck". - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: thackney

Yes, it is that makes boats convenient.


15 posted on 05/10/2014 9:20:08 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: Theoria

Ahhhhh doesn’t a major fault line run right through the straight between Russia and Alaska. .not the best place for a tunnel a bridge maybe but not a tunnel.

Sarah Palin’ s geopolitical Bearing Straights in play


16 posted on 05/10/2014 9:21:40 AM PDT by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more.)
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To: ridesthemiles

Not sure what an ornate german dish would have to do with it ;) But those tectonic plates would seem to be a formidable engineering obstacle. The route would seem to be riding the northern edge of the pacific “ring of fire” -not the optimal place to put a 125+ mile underwater tunnel.


17 posted on 05/10/2014 9:23:21 AM PDT by notatard?
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To: Disambiguator
Let’s see: a 125 mile long underwater tunnel built by the Chinese?

I really don't care who builds the thing, the big nut to crack is the route will take it through the Pacific "ring of fire" (subduction zone) twice. That is not a realistic goal.

Regards,
GtG

18 posted on 05/10/2014 9:25:41 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Wage Slave

Maybe their politicians get kickbacks from huge construction projects like ours do.


19 posted on 05/10/2014 9:26:59 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: thackney

When you connect any TWO populated points on the globe there is always a “nowhere” in beween, else the two places would be one massive contiguous populated zone....the US interstates pass through a lot of nowhere aka fly over country


20 posted on 05/10/2014 9:31:25 AM PDT by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more.)
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To: ridesthemiles
How many Teutonic plate zones would that tunnel pass?

I would never ride inside such a tunnel.

Yet Los Angeles has a subway system in daily use by thousands of commuters.

21 posted on 05/10/2014 9:38:50 AM PDT by null and void ( They don't think think they are above the law. They think they are the law.)
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To: Theoria

Anything with the tag “Made in China” has dubious quality to start with. I don’t see traversing a submerged tunnel built by them making my bucket list.


22 posted on 05/10/2014 9:39:44 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: ridesthemiles
"How many Teutonic plate zones would that tunnel pass?"

Piece of cake. They haven't got submersibles. Yet...

 photo Teutonic_zps1ee956ad.jpg
23 posted on 05/10/2014 9:43:37 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Theoria

Hmmm...are the Chinese in cahoots with the Russians?
Your post made me think of this article:

snip-”Obama has given away seven strategic, oil-rich Alaskan islands to the Russians at a time when we could be going to war with Russia.”

http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2013/02/27/why-russia-needs-alaska/


24 posted on 05/10/2014 9:44:53 AM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Theoria

Wasn’t there a very bad sci-fi movie from the 60s about the chi-coms building a tunnel to invade the U.S.?


25 posted on 05/10/2014 9:48:57 AM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: Theoria
How about a shortcut?


26 posted on 05/10/2014 9:52:40 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Theoria

....because their track record on above-water trains has been incredibly stellar?

those trains better be made of tupperware because they’re gonna get wet.


27 posted on 05/10/2014 9:53:02 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

yup. good luck fixing that, getting the destroyed trains out, etc.


28 posted on 05/10/2014 9:57:34 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: null and void
How many Teutonic plate zones would that tunnel pass?

Yet Los Angeles has a subway system in daily use by thousands of commuters.

Verry interesting....

Ja, aber zeez Los Angeles tectonic plates are Teutonic und are verry disciplined and vill maintain their positions as ordered .

Vee didn't all go to Argentina you know.

29 posted on 05/10/2014 10:03:41 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: Theoria

In competition with Mexico cartels?


30 posted on 05/10/2014 10:17:30 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda¬óDivide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray
the big nut to crack is the route will take it through the Pacific "ring of fire" (subduction zone) twice.

Well, there's one thing that could possibly go wrong.

31 posted on 05/10/2014 11:02:19 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: ridesthemiles
How many Teutonic plate zones would that tunnel pass?

Germany would probably build some of the equipment used to build the thing, but not the plates. :^)

32 posted on 05/10/2014 11:03:29 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Theoria
I think I read about this in Superman or Action comics a long time ago.

Or maybe it was Athelstan Spilhaus's Our New Age:


33 posted on 05/10/2014 11:13:37 AM PDT by x
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To: Theoria

It would work fine and dandy until the OWS and treehugging envoronazi crowd met them in Alaska. Then the speckled foot toad would shut down the entire project. As much as progressives, tyrants, and commies love their trains they are hardly a match for communie industrialists.


34 posted on 05/10/2014 11:14:50 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Wabash Cannonball in orbit(?) somewhere out there.


35 posted on 05/10/2014 11:22:05 AM PDT by BlueDragon (The world isn't Crazy. It's just the people in it...)
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To: Theoria

Yup, using high-grade Chinese parts. That’ll up the ridership.


36 posted on 05/10/2014 11:52:39 AM PDT by SgtHooper (This is my tag!)
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Seems like there was a silent movie about building a train tunnel across the Atlantic.


37 posted on 05/10/2014 12:13:49 PM PDT by Rockpile
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To: Theoria

The Alaka route won’t happen but the Silk Road route is a lot more viable and the Chinese are energetic and on the rise and may well do it.

They are not a shriveling pathetic has-been society like a certain other large nation.


38 posted on 05/10/2014 12:18:03 PM PDT by Rockpile
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To: Theoria

39 posted on 05/10/2014 1:51:33 PM PDT by windcliff
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To: x

That might end up being pretty accurate.


40 posted on 05/10/2014 4:45:21 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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To: ridesthemiles

Yeah you definitely want to stay away from Teutonic plates, you might end up with a fork in your hand if you try to take the weiner schnitzel.


41 posted on 05/10/2014 4:48:44 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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To: ScottinVA

Is that true? i saw this on many sites http://www.colombocitylife.com/2014/05/china-to-build-under-sea-train-to-america.html


42 posted on 05/12/2014 10:41:30 AM PDT by Gossip Lanka
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