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Republicans Tighten Grip on Debates in 2016 Race (establishment GOP purging conservatives)
NY Times ^ | 5/9/2014 | Jonathan Martin

Posted on 05/10/2014 8:55:09 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant

Edited on 05/10/2014 9:06:25 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

The Republican National Committee moved Friday to seize control of the presidential primary debates in 2016, another step in a coordinated effort by the party establishment to reshape the nominating process.

Committee members overwhelmingly passed a measure that would penalize any presidential candidate who participated in a debate not sanctioned by the national party, by limiting their participation in subsequent committee-sanctioned forums.


(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016gopprimary; debates; egop
This move is to protect a Romney-type candidate who is anointed by the Republican Left. Reince Priebus wants to restrict conservatives from participating in the debates.

The conservatives should do their own debates, with moderators like Dennis Prager, Rush Limbaugh and Mark Steyn.

1 posted on 05/10/2014 8:55:09 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant
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To: UnwashedPeasant

We got plenty of GOOD Governors_executive types. Leave out the others. Some good ‘others’ but a good idea. Plus leave out the book writers-Cain-Carson-Trump.


2 posted on 05/10/2014 8:59:11 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

C’mon. We all complained about the never-ending debates moderated by undisguised liberals. Stephie planing the War - On - Women meme etc.

If the lying media is being collared that’s a good thing.


3 posted on 05/10/2014 8:59:33 AM PDT by sgtyork (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

“Some party leaders say they believe that the number of debates pushed Mitt Romney to the right in a way that contributed to his loss to President Obama. “

The GOPe meme finally comes out.


4 posted on 05/10/2014 8:59:34 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

The coming blizzard of demands for Republican donations hasn’t quite hit here.

However, I will send back each & every one with a nasty message.....

Not a dime until you find some CONSERVATIVE candidates & quit attacking the Tea Party.


5 posted on 05/10/2014 9:04:09 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: UnwashedPeasant

The Gop want to be what its always been accused of being. .the cold party of business interest. .they want to be the stereotype niche interest party.


6 posted on 05/10/2014 9:06:07 AM PDT by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more.)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

“Republican left...” I like that. I think I’ll borrow it from you. Thanks!


7 posted on 05/10/2014 9:07:28 AM PDT by pallis
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To: UnwashedPeasant

How much more control do they need? They nominated a mealy-mouth surrender monkeys in 88, 92, 96, 2000, 04, 08, and 12. Sounds like they’re already pretty firmly in control What do they stand to achieve with MORE control?? Nominate extra mealy-mouth POTUS candidates in non-election years??


8 posted on 05/10/2014 9:08:07 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

The Republicans are actually MORE of my enemy than the Democrats.


9 posted on 05/10/2014 9:12:54 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: UnwashedPeasant
This is the kind of thing I have said all along that would require the creation of a third party. They stack the deck in the primaries against conservatives, using liberal states to create a pretend front runner, and allow open primaries and now this kind of thing. If conservatives are not able to have a voice in the Republican party, then conservatives need to make their own party. It will be rough, but the end result is that there will be no Republican party. Half will defect to the democrats and half will join the conservatives. Then it will be game on, marxist vs. freedom parties. And in spite of everything, freedom can still win. But not when the Republicans act in concert with the Democrats in bringing socialism to the country. Better to split before it's too late.

I have said that we need to work hard to get a conservative the nomination in 2016. But if that doesn't work, if they give us Jeb or something similar, it's time to go. Yes, they'll lose. But WE lose no matter what, and the only difference between Dems and Republicans is the date of the day of reckoning. Better to have it sooner.

10 posted on 05/10/2014 9:12:57 AM PDT by Defiant (Let the Tea Party win, and we will declare peace on the American people and go home.)
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To: sgtyork
C’mon. We all complained about the never-ending debates moderated by undisguised liberals. Stephie planing the War - On - Women meme etc."

The problem is 2012 was not the number of debates. It was the Leftist moderators.

The more time a politician spends in a debate, the more you see who he really is and what he really believes.

11 posted on 05/10/2014 9:15:39 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant
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To: UnwashedPeasant

No, this is aimed at Libertarian candidates, not conservatives.


12 posted on 05/10/2014 9:20:51 AM PDT by Eva
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To: UnwashedPeasant

Its also to take more control of the number of debates and who the moderators are. They need to refuse to debate with these left wing loons like Candy Crowley.


13 posted on 05/10/2014 9:22:48 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Defiant

If we can rein the presidency in to its constitutional limits it won’t make a lot of difference who the president is if we have control of the house and senate.


14 posted on 05/10/2014 9:32:58 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I agree with your analysis. The GOP has let the MSM choose the debate moderators without any approval by the GOP. The result was predictable: Liberal moderators masquerading as neutrals.

If the GOP insists on input and can back up their demands by preventing candidates from jumping into the MSM’s ambush debates, this can seriously raise the standards for the better.


15 posted on 05/10/2014 9:40:04 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Exactly. I don’t need anymore lefty moderators and their gotcha questions about abortion or gay marriage. The nation’s economy and foreign affairs are going to dominate the 2016 presidential race.


16 posted on 05/10/2014 9:45:21 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: UnwashedPeasant

Here in WA state, we never have much input on who the nominee will be. BUT I really do not want the R elites to have the power to determine who the nominee ends up being.

I would rather hear and see all the candidates, multiple times and let party voters make their choices. KEY to me is ‘party’ voters.

Re the moderators...I guess I’m in the minority. If you can’t handle Candy Crowley...I don’t want you in charge of the U.S.A. I really do believe that a candidate won’t/can’t get tripped up if they articulate their ideas based on what the candidate really believes...not based on how ‘it will play’ w/ voters.

Pardon my bluntness..but the candidate who moves to the right for primary season...then moves to the middle for the general...can go to hell. I’m not voting for a candidate that doesn’t hold firm beliefs and sticks w/ their beliefs the entire time.


17 posted on 05/10/2014 9:52:39 AM PDT by conservaKate ( I grow weary of the goobers in the Republican party. (thanks Chris))
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To: ridesthemiles

I constrained myself for several months on these emails wanting money.
I wanted to send them back with a nice little note, but didn’t...until the last one from ‘muckcain’. Told him where to go in no uncertain terms...and I mailed it this time.


18 posted on 05/10/2014 10:14:15 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda¬óDivide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: cripplecreek

I agree. The last gasp of this country is that there be a true conservative elected President, and that he have a majority in the House and Senate. There will still be RINOs and quislings in the Republican party, but as Reagan showed, a strong conservative leader can bend them to his wishes, especially if the people are vocal. It starts this fall by getting the Senate and electing as many conservatives to Congress as possible. Then we need to take on the GOPe in a fight to the death. If their crony capitalism and fixing the process result in a Jeb Bush or some such getting the nomination, it is over. I will not go along with that party any more. I almost didn’t the last time. But we will need a spark, like the one Perot lit in 1992, but with someone sane this time. Rush, Hannity, Sarah Palin, Ted Cruz, some big money backers, joining together and announcing that they are going their separate way. In 2 days, they would be at 30 percent in the polls. In 2 weeks, 40 percent. And the GOPe would be at 10 or 15, fading to oblivion. Firestorm.


19 posted on 05/10/2014 10:25:50 AM PDT by Defiant (Let the Tea Party win, and we will declare peace on the American people and go home.)
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To: ridesthemiles

The only things the RINOs want are our money and our votes. Maybe when they get neither, they’ll wake up.

New party time; let the Whigs die.


20 posted on 05/10/2014 10:38:11 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

NYTimes trying to undermine GOP, that’s all this is about.


21 posted on 05/10/2014 2:24:03 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: conservaKate

Pardon MY bluntness..but.. you just took the bait, or baited the hook, I haven’t decided yet.. We’ll see..


22 posted on 05/10/2014 3:05:23 PM PDT by carlo3b (Corrupt politicians make the other ten percent look bad.. Henry Kissinger)
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To: carlo3b

What? I am unclear what you’re even referring to. What bait?

I want a stong conservative candidate that doen’t waffle on what they say they believe in. You know, walk the talk.

I also don’t want some c.s. who is afraid of the msm.


23 posted on 05/10/2014 3:15:46 PM PDT by conservaKate ( I grow weary of the goobers in the Republican party. (thanks Chris))
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To: TribalPrincess2U
Told him where to go in no uncertain terms...and I mailed it this time.

No one reads those replies except maybe NSA.

24 posted on 05/10/2014 3:18:41 PM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: itsahoot

Oh he’ll get the message.


25 posted on 05/10/2014 5:36:46 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda¬óDivide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: Lazamataz

As a National Campaign strategy, ponder this:

* Would it be a good idea to ramp up attacks on the Democrat Party while still ramping up attacks on Obama? Thus, have more than one point of attack.
***** “Frame” (a Saul Alinsky tactic that Obama uses in each speech) ALL Democrats to be willing members the Political Party of: Lies, Denials, and refusals to Comply with Federal Laws.
*****Contrast the Framed, counterculture Democats with the rest of us that are held to American Core Value Standards:
1.) Tell the Truth _________________________________________Honest
2.) Affirm the occurrence of a legal or duty violation_____________Accountable
3,) Obey the Law of the Land________________________________Responsible

For example:

Bull Horn Leader: “Who __yuh-gunna__ vote__ for?”

Crowd: “Not__ the__ Democrats__ who__ lie__ Lie__ LIE!”

Bull Horn Leader: “Who__ yuh-gunna__ vote__ for?”

Crowd: “Not__ the__ Democrats__ who__ deny__ Deny__DENY!”

Bull Horn Leader: “THEN__WHO__yuh-gunna__vote__FOR?”

Crowd: “NEVER__the__Democrats__who__refuse__to__comply__Comply__COMPLY!”

_____________________

Observation: Democrats are 2 year old spooled brats who lie, deny and refuse to comply with the wishes of their adult authority figures, usually Mom and Dad.

Democrats never grew up, and then they gravitate as adult 2-year olds to the only profession that rewards one who lies, denies and refuses to comply: Politics. For example, Obama, Holder and Lerner.

As their main defense Democrats, WITHOUT EXCEPTION, use the school yard tactic of peer morality: “Everybody does it so why do you think that you are so high and mighty?” For example, “Bush did the same thing, so what is the big deal?”

In summary, my point is that, (IMHO, of course), if we fall into the Democrats peer morality trap of “Republicans do it too.” it will be because we have “Framed” the Republicans, Tea Party, Conservatives, etc. as being without blame or shame.

Thus, to avoid the Democrats trap, do like Speaker Gingrich did: NATIONALIZE THE ELECTION CAMPAIGN.

IOW, use “WE, THE PEOPLE” as a contrast to the Democrats that y’all have “Framed” as being those who lie, deny and refuse to comply.

Thus, the issue is Nationalized as a “We the People” against the corrupt and irresponsible Democrats, including their Leader Obama.

Also, at some point the low information voter will have sympathy for the continuos attacks on Obama if ONLY Obama is attacked and cast their votes for “ the devil we know.”


26 posted on 05/10/2014 5:44:08 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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