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Assault rifles stolen from Chicago rail yard (Oh ooh)
wgntv ^ | May 9, 2014 | Tom Negovan

Posted on 05/10/2014 12:04:03 PM PDT by Red Steel

Armed and extremely dangerous. Some heavy weapons have fallen into the wrong hands in Chicago– and police desperately want to get them back.

Perhaps ironically, these semi-automatic rifles are very similar to what police themselves use. Thirteen of them were stolen from a train parked in Englewood– complete with their high-capacity 30-round magazines.

Special Agent Tom Ahern, ATF:“They’re high-capacity rifles. They’re very dangerous when they’re in the wrong hands.”

The Smith and Wesson M and P 15 Sport Rifle– virtually identical to the M-4 assault rifle U.S. troops use at war, police use to keep the peace; or citizens use to create chaos, in the AR-15 Bushmaster Incarnation. That’s the now-infamous weapon used in the massacre at sandy hook elementary school.

Sometime between Sunday and Tuesday, 13 of them were grabbed from a shipment of 50, from a Norfolk Southern freight container parked at this Englewood rail yard.

Community Activist Andrew Holmes: “I’m demanding that a thorough investigation be done and the security firm that’s here be removed until this case is resolved just in case this was an inside job.”

Investigators seem to feel otherwise, that the crooks had no idea what they were taking. It’s not a security firm that works here, but Norfolk Southern’s own police force, now working with Chicago police and the bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms to get the guns back

They fire what’s known as a ‘NATO bullet’ essentially military caliber– 5.56 millimeter and while they don’t ship with those bullets; they do ship with magazines that carry 30 of them at a time, firing them off as fast as you can pull the trigger.

Tom Ahern “And we’re just hoping that these guns don’t get in the hands of more violent offenders that are gonna use them in crimes.”

They were just passing through on a train from Smith and Wesson’s factory in Springfield, Massachusetts to a licensed dealer in Minnesota.

What has law enforcement and politicians here so concerned is that these are exactly the kind of weapons and magazines they’re trying to keep off the streets of Chicago.


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Looky at all the "key phrases" and "words" to incite and invoke. Seems someone here is playing and implying to a larger political agenda.
1 posted on 05/10/2014 12:04:03 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
complete with their high-capacity 30-round magazines.

That would be STANDARD capacity trolls.

2 posted on 05/10/2014 12:07:42 PM PDT by JOAT
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To: Red Steel

this type of event always preceeds a city election where a left winger is running for office. see nyc, Miami, la, Chicago etc.


3 posted on 05/10/2014 12:10:16 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Red Steel

HI-larious!!!


4 posted on 05/10/2014 12:12:18 PM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: Red Steel

This guy is a real gun scribe, huh? Like Jeff Cooper and Jack O’Connor.


5 posted on 05/10/2014 12:12:48 PM PDT by dainbramaged (Don't tell me, I'll tell you.)
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To: JOAT

Absolutely, and 20 rounds for 7.62.


6 posted on 05/10/2014 12:13:51 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Red Steel

Sinaloa preferred. They own Chicago, having purchased it from a Kenyan.


7 posted on 05/10/2014 12:14:45 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: Red Steel

This sure reads like satire, or they’ve got some *really* flaky people in Chicago.


8 posted on 05/10/2014 12:16:58 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Red Steel
police use to keep the peace; or citizens use to create chaos

Nope. No bias there.

9 posted on 05/10/2014 12:19:00 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BenLurkin
They’re high-capacity rifles. They’re very dangerous when they’re in the wrong hands.”

But they are NOT dangerous when they are in the hands of that wonderful government that we can trust so completely eh? Crapola!!!

10 posted on 05/10/2014 12:21:30 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: JOAT

The writing reeks.

I’m not any kind of gun expert but I’m pretty sure that “heavy weapons” are things like mortars and M.-2s


11 posted on 05/10/2014 12:21:39 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Don Corleone

Yes, this guy evidently thinks that “citizens” = “wrong hands”


12 posted on 05/10/2014 12:22:46 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Red Steel
essentially military caliber

This author is a complete tool.
13 posted on 05/10/2014 12:23:26 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Red Steel
The new M&P15 Sport™ rifle joins Smith & Wesson’s popular line of M&P15 semi- automatic Modern Sporting Rifles. The M&P15 SPORT™ is a perfect choice for the Modern Sporting Rifle enthusiast.

. (From S&W Website)


14 posted on 05/10/2014 12:27:55 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: dainbramaged
I was thinking David E. Petzal.


15 posted on 05/10/2014 12:31:36 PM PDT by Viking2002
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To: Red Steel
That’s the now-infamous weapon used in the massacre at sandy hook elementary school.

Wasn't that proven false?

16 posted on 05/10/2014 12:32:54 PM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: Red Steel

What a dolt. Obvious answer—————ban transporting these evil articles of war through the state of ILLinoise by any mode of transport. In fact, any aircraft transporting these items would be prohibited from flying in ILLinoise air space as well. In fact, any spacecraft with these items on board may not orbit over ILLinoise. See. Simple.


17 posted on 05/10/2014 12:34:17 PM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: Red Steel
What has law enforcement and politicians here so concerned is that these are exactly the kind of weapons and magazines they’re trying to keep off the streets of Chicago.

Horsecrap. Holder's Peeps couldn't afford any AR-15 type target rifles and any idiot can tell you, you will be seen carrying a rifle out in the open.

18 posted on 05/10/2014 12:37:10 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: BenLurkin
My dog's biggest fears are not the thugs on the streets, but the ones in cars with strobe lights and sirens. My dog has strongly indicated those risks are shared between species. His and mine.

Notice the author never indicates where the guns were being shipped to or who the customer is? My money is on the BLM in Nevada.

21 posted on 05/10/2014 12:47:27 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: blackdog

The article said they were headed to a licensed dealer in Minnesota.


22 posted on 05/10/2014 12:48:57 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: blackdog

hehe

“They were just passing through on a train from Smith and Wesson’s factory in Springfield, Massachusetts to a licensed dealer in Minnesota.”


23 posted on 05/10/2014 12:50:12 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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re: I’m not any kind of gun expert but I’m pretty sure that “heavy weapons” are things like mortars and M.-2s

No no no. Not since the Wizards of Smart like Ted O’Baxter started calling any long gun larger than 22LR a “Heavy Weapon”.
5.56mm and .223 now qualify as (Gasp) heavy weapons.
Next on the agenda is to move the bar down to 17 caliber.
Damn, there goes my .177 pellet rifle.

24 posted on 05/10/2014 12:50:46 PM PDT by Tupelo (I feel more like Philip Nolan every day)
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25 posted on 05/10/2014 12:55:00 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: blackdog
Notice the author never indicates where the guns were being shipped to or who the customer is? My money is on the BLM in Nevada.

/facepalm

26 posted on 05/10/2014 12:58:04 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Red Steel

I think those weapons are just as Dangerous in the “Right Hands”as they are in the wrong hands.
When in the “Right Hands”The citizenry can be killed under color of law and the Perp can get away with it.

I wish this were not the case but it is.


27 posted on 05/10/2014 12:59:22 PM PDT by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: Red Steel

HOWEVER! I am impressed that the hyperbolic author actually used the correct term for the ammunition magazine. This has to be one of the first times I’ve heard an anti-gun reporter not say “clip” when referring to a magazine. This reporter would be shocked to find the cache of sunken weapons all over the nation.


28 posted on 05/10/2014 1:00:20 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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Holy crap!!!

13 rifles stolen in Chicago, this could to violence in the renowned liberal city of peace. < /S > (if anybody needed the *off sarcasm* tag)

29 posted on 05/10/2014 1:09:51 PM PDT by The Cajun (tea party!!!, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert......Nuff said.)
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To: Organic Panic
Yeah, but he like too many who post on this form, does not know the difference between a bullet and a cartridge.

For those of you from Rio Linda:

A bullet is to a cartridge as flour is to bread or as cement is to concrete, etc. Multiple cartridges are known as ammunition. Multiple bullets are known as lots of bullets.

Cartridges are an assembly that consists of a shellcase, propellant powder, primer and bullet. Bullets are those little thingies that are expelled from a firearm and travel down range until they reach a target or the ground.

30 posted on 05/10/2014 1:14:22 PM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: gundog

Yep.. So much that was reported was later said to be false. But Leftists do not care about facts.. They run with the story that fits their agenda best.


31 posted on 05/10/2014 1:17:57 PM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("Give me Liberty or I'll stand up and get it for myself!")
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To: Don Corleone

My thoughts exactly!
Not to mention there is something very fishy about this story.


32 posted on 05/10/2014 1:20:13 PM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("Give me Liberty or I'll stand up and get it for myself!")
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To: 1rudeboy; flaglady47; Chigirl 26; prairiebreeze; BillyBoy; Bushbacker1; oswegodeee; carlo3b; ...
All we know now is that the shipment originated in Connecticut (some sources say Taxachusetts) and were headed for a federally-licensed gun dealer in Minnesota.

The train was parked in South Side Englewood, ranked around 5th in violent crime among Chicago's 77 community areas.

Well, they just have to do is stake out all the ammo shops and when some dudes come in to purchase large quantities of rounds for these guns, voila!....theft is solved.

I am so Sherlock Holmes-ish.

Leni

33 posted on 05/10/2014 1:21:20 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Red Steel

The is so much technically wrong and inaccurate with this written article.
It makes absolutely no sense at all.
Clearly written as a Anti 2nd Amendment hit piece.


34 posted on 05/10/2014 1:28:15 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American - Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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To: Red Steel
They fire what’s known as a ‘NATO bullet’ essentially military caliber– 5.56 millimeter and while they don’t ship with those bullets; they do ship with magazines that carry 30 of them at a time, firing them off as fast as you can pull the trigger.

Damn,thats some dangerous fire power there , /s

35 posted on 05/10/2014 1:30:36 PM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: rktman

Any aircraft transporting any such OBJECT OF EVIL, regardless of how many passengers are aboard, should be shot down immediately, and any surviving passengers killed.


37 posted on 05/10/2014 1:37:55 PM PDT by libstripper
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The Chicago community of Englewood (part of Obama's old 'community organizing territory) is 97.37% black and 1.06 Hispanic.

Derek Rose of the Chicago Bulls, Jennifer Hudson (singer and actress) and Chaka Khan (singer and songwriter) came from Englewood.

The place is riddled with gangs and violent crimes of all kinds.

Leni

39 posted on 05/10/2014 1:43:58 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: libstripper

So, just curious, did “they” just start breaking in to any old boxcar and were just “lucky” enough to get in to this one by “accident”?


40 posted on 05/10/2014 1:45:09 PM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: BerryDingle

Actually, the S&W M&P 15 Sport rifle is quite reasonably priced. I recently bought one for $641.00 before fees and taxes. Unfortunately, shortly thereafter I was carrying it in a canoe and, like many other FReepers, suffered a Tragic Boating Accident. Now I can only imagine the pleasures of shooting it.


41 posted on 05/10/2014 1:46:26 PM PDT by libstripper
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24 re: I’m not any kind of gun expert but I’m pretty sure that “heavy weapons” are things like mortars and M.-2s

No no no. Not since the Wizards of Smart like Ted O’Baxter started calling any long gun larger than 22LR a “Heavy Weapon”. 5.56mm and .223 now qualify as (Gasp) heavy weapons. Next on the agenda is to move the bar down to 17 caliber. Damn, there goes my .177 pellet rifle.

I believe "heavy" weapons originally meant belt-fed automatic machine guns which required, at least, 2 infantrymen to break down, carry (along with the ammo boxes), and assemble/ operate in the field. Think of the WWII M1919 Browning cal. 30-06 and M2 Browning cal. .50. Don't really know what today's infantry equivalent is, e.g.,the SAW.

Mortars, bazookas (or whatever equivalent missile launcher infantrymen use today), and RPGs, while "heavy" are classified as close-in support explosive ordinances.

42 posted on 05/10/2014 1:47:19 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: Red Steel

One of our “allies” south of Israel lost 20-40000 form a warehouse. I guess fast and furious did not work all the way up to Chicago.


43 posted on 05/10/2014 1:48:38 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: blackdog

Just dawned on me when you mentioned the blm and NV. I got a feelin’ that hairy screed will blame it on............ The Koch brothers. They’re responsible for ALL evil that occurs in this country according to brain damaged hairy.


44 posted on 05/10/2014 1:48:51 PM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: F15Eagle

That’s redundant...no? Every LIB is a “pantywaist”.


45 posted on 05/10/2014 1:49:00 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Organic Panic

Indeed, those of us who are members of the Coast Guard Auxiliary and Power Squadrons must redouble our boating safety efforts to prevent and more such Tragic Boating accidents, especially when they involve firearms. We FReepers seem particularly prone to suffering such horrible tragedies while transporting “military grade assault weapons.”


46 posted on 05/10/2014 1:52:44 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: MinuteGal

About a year or so ago someone posted a “Chicago Sun Times” article about an interview with a Chicago gang banger where he said one way they get their weapons is by robberies much like this one. Only trouble is one of those rifles is a lot larger and more awkward than the hand guns they prefer.


47 posted on 05/10/2014 1:58:54 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: Red Steel

I read that in my best Al Sharpton voice.


48 posted on 05/10/2014 1:59:46 PM PDT by fudimo
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To: rktman

Especially in Englewood, and so sad. About 65 years ago I had a totally vile experience having a tonsiectomy at the Englewood Hospital, AKA Englglewood Butcher Palace. Back then there was even a private, quite POSH, Englewood Country Club. Tragic how things often change, far too often for the worse.


49 posted on 05/10/2014 2:07:36 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: Red Steel

Keep an eye on Yee ...


50 posted on 05/10/2014 3:46:09 PM PDT by livius
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