Skip to comments.Texas officer who shot armed 93-year-old fired
Posted on 05/10/2014 4:20:01 PM PDT by PaulCruz2016
HEARNE, Texas (AP) Officials in a small Central Texas town voted Saturday to fire a police officer who shot and killed an armed 93-year-old woman during a confrontation at her home.
The city council's unanimous vote to dismiss Officer Stephen Stem came after a meeting that lasted less than 30 minutes, KBTX-TV reported.
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Please quit shooting us.
I used to hate Ice Tea, and I really do hate all that music, but you know what..?
NOW I UNDERSTAND.
He may end up owning that town.
That was the second person the officer shot in his two years on the force.
He was fired after he fired?
And he was promptly rehired by DHS.
“He was fired after he fired?”
Yea...city council figured tried give it a shot. No telling what it’ll lead to. Just a shell game now. Cop’ll probably claim wrongful termination.
tried = they’d
Progressive Liberal mentality has ruined our Country.. Our excitable dogs and elderly relatives with dementia are no longer safe around fearful, trigger happy police officers.
next time a black person waves around a loaded gun, the police will think twice about shooting.
oh, crap, I hope its a white guy with a gun if I ever get jacked, just so the police don’t hesitate to protect me.
In all honesty, 93 years old or not, whatever this cop’s record, the lady did fire first (if the reports are to be believed). If a person shoots at you, you have the right to defend yourself.
Her nephew - who called the police - said she was enraged because she failed the driving test at the DMV. When she got home, she took out her gun and began threating to kill him (the nephew) and he called the police.
He says she fired two shots at the cops before they fired at her.
So let’s get a grip and wait for the investigation to be over. A 93 year old can kill you as much as anybody else can. We had an incident here where a crazy old lady in her 90s blew away the grand-nephew who was caring for her, a wonderful man who had a great family and worked for the local college. She was just nuts and got annoyed about something. He called the police but it was too late and he was dead when they got there.
Just because she was old didn’t mean she couldn’t have killed the nephew, the cops or anybody she fired on.
Ice tea is one of the good guys from what I remember.
I saw one report where she got off a couple of shots first. It will be interesting to see which story proves out.
I understand what youre saying and there was a time I had faith in an investigation but the police are doing the investigation and I wouldn’t trust them as far as I could throw them all.
She was carrying the gun and had threatened to shoot her son unless he returned her car keys. When the officer told her to drop the gun she fired twice into the ground before the officer fired at her. He could have used a taser instead.
Yes, maybe a small plot of ground down at the cemetery ,if'n some of her kin find him.
The guy fired 5 rounds with 3 hits. I believe this guy may have been in the right. I also believe he’s a typical trigger happy cop who should not be on the police force.
oh, crap, I hope its a white guy with a gun if I ever get jacked, just so the police dont hesitate to protect me.
Wow, willy! So I guess using your flawless logic, all black people are the same, huh? So Pearlie, shown here, is just as dangerous as all those other darkies, I guess...
Then you push the envelope even further by saying "oh, crap, I hope its a white guy with a gun if I ever get jacked, just so the police dont hesitate to protect me." So again, white people are OK to shoot?
You sure you're on the right web site?
I think it should be made clear to a LEO when hired, that his job was to protect ALL citizens, black, white, yellow and green. The young and the old and even the crazy’s and the criminals. And to do this without killing them.
If a cop killed a person, even in self defense, he or she wound be fired. It ‘s the cops job to be able to handle and defuse a situation, not to escalate it. If a cop can’t handle this, then we need to replace him or her with one who can.
So if your life in danger (the cop’s), go ahead and kill the perp. Knowing that you will lose your job... (still better than getting killed)
They need to have some skin in the game...
This was a crazy lady who had a death wish that day.
Some of the comments on here are absolutely ignorant. o one has to meet deadly force with less lethal...period...none of you would...neither should police officers...
Look, .38 is an underpowered round. Cops wear ballistic armor. If you cant take a few puny .38 rounds from a feeble 93 year old lady, you have NO business being a cop. He should have waded in there and plucked the gun out of the ladys hand.
And you're able to get inside her head how?
“This was a crazy lady who had a death wish that day.”
Doesn’t matter... It SHOULD be the cop’s job to handle ANY situation in such a way as to not leave someone dead. If they can’t do that, their not suited for the job.
Ahh...so now we must take the bullet first...if it hits the vest...go tackle her...if it hits the sweet spot under the arm or lower torso....well that just sux to be the cop...give me a break
“He should have waded in there and plucked the gun out of the ladys hand.”
Even dog catchers don’t just kill dogs because they don’t heel, fetch or roll over...
I am rabidly anti-thugcop. But according to the article, she shot first. If so, this was a good shoot by an officer and an idiotic move by the town.
The perp's own nephew says she fired at the officer.
You are laughably uninformed.
So I assume you are an experienced law officer? We have had posts from experienced, retired LEOs on other threads who have said that in past, similar situations, they have handled them exactly as Laz indicated. One retired LEO FreePer said that he once had to approach a drunken citizen with a shotgun who kept yelling at him "I'm gonna KILL you!" He knew that he wouldn't if he hadn't by that time, and by the time he got near enough, he grabbed the rifle away from him.
But I guess, in your world, it's better to just shoot a 93-year old woman dead...
If somebody’s shooting at you, sorry, you shoot back. Even if you’re a cop. Contrary to popular opinion, they can’t shoot the gun out of the bad guy’s hand.
This old lady, btw, may have been fine much of the time but was probably a little nutty (Alzheimer’s often makes people very anger-prone) and had simply flown beneath the radar until she went to get her driver’s license renewed.
Get brave or get off the force!
Ya contemptible weenie.
She was shooting at him? Where in the story did it say that?
BTW, I saw this post from another thread when I looked you over. You sound like a decent cop.
So I'll let you in on a secret: I was trolling you. :)
Sometimes I'm in the mood to troll a cop a little. The current crop of cops are bad news, and have made me become extremely anti-police. They dress like they are in Mogadishu, act like they are in Afghanistan, and behave like they are on Operation Desert Storm.
I read a summary of this yesterday.
The son says the old woman fired two shots at the cops before they shot back.
Is that true?
The cop should have done a tuck and roll, then shot the pistol out of her hand from the prone position.
Did they stop teaching that in mall ninja school?
I hope he sues their asses off and owns that crappy little town full of Third World PsOS.
There’s not much doubt in my mind that if the 93-year-old lady had been white and conservative this whole thing would be over and forgotten by now.
I have 22.5 years on...will retire when I am ready. and as for your judgments of people you don’t know, well, that speaks volumes. I peruse this site because I have similar beliefs about big government, and I am a conservative at heart. I get news and information here that I can’t find elsewhere... I may on occasion voice my opinion about topics that I actually have experience in, or ask questions about topics that I would like to know more about. I don’t expect to be called names by people that don’t know me, my circumstances.
But it's a war on
Drugs US CITIZENS! Ya don't see em shooting drugs. They aren't kicking in the doors at Johnson and Johnson!
Ronnie said it was a good thing.Time to stop worshiping everything Ronnie said and did. He did do a lot of great things. This is NOT one of them!
Declaring War on half the US population was a good thing? Conservatives are obviously just as capable and culpable at blind leadership as Lieberals!
This nation did just fine before Carrie Nation and the Highway crew paved the road!
I use the backflip 1/2 double and fire while in the air. Takes practice.