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Leaked Delaware Bill Shows 3D Gun Ban
Truth Revolt ^ | May 8, 2014 | Yehuda Remer

Posted on 05/10/2014 6:39:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

"I only had a couple of seconds to take a picture of it with my cell phone."

A new bill being circulated for co-sponsors in Delaware would make any person in possession of a firearm that is undetectable by a metal detector a felon.

The bill, which has not been posted online, was leaked by State Rep. Jeffery Spiegelman (R) via a phone picture.

Posted from thetruthaboutguns.com, Spiegelman writes, “First, let me apologize for the poor quality. This bill (137) was circulated today for cosponsors and I only had a couple of seconds to take a picture of it with my cell phone. In other words, it is not even online for public viewing yet. Here are my initial thoughts . . .

Spiegelman brings some very interesting points. He writes:

-How do you enforce this if 3D printers are legal, the computer file needed for the 3d printer is legal, and neither are traceable?

-Why does the bill mention parts that are not part of the legal definition of a firearm (in other words, by the letter of this law, after the mentioned parts are removed, the gun could still retain metal sights or other parts and be legal or illegal? If the whole firearm is plastic for a metallic serial number plate, is that illegal?)

-Is the plastic magazine and similar parts illegal or only illegal when attached to a legally defined firearm?

-Is there an official hand held metal detector setting? Commercial metal detectors can detect the iron content of a person’s blood.

-What is undetectable ammunition?

-What is an undetectable magazine?

-Will existing firearms/parts be grandfathered? How would it be known if they are pre or post ban if printed firearms and parts are not dated?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; US: Delaware
KEYWORDS: 3dprinters; 3dprinting; banglist; delaware; guncontrol

1 posted on 05/10/2014 6:39:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; AFPhys; AD from SpringBay; ADemocratNoMore; aimhigh; AnalogReigns; archy; ...
3-D Printer Ping!

Political power grows out of the nozzle of a 3-D Printer.

2 posted on 05/10/2014 6:42:04 PM PDT by null and void ( They don't think think they are above the law. They think they are the law.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Amazing how many secret laws we are getting.


3 posted on 05/10/2014 6:43:22 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: null and void

Wow a perfectly worthless plastic gun spray painted aluminum.


4 posted on 05/10/2014 6:46:33 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

That’s not plastic. It’s stainless steel through and through.


5 posted on 05/10/2014 6:49:31 PM PDT by null and void ( They don't think think they are above the law. They think they are the law.)
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To: null and void

It looks like plastic parts sitting on a block of aluminum. The 3-D printers create plastic parts.


6 posted on 05/10/2014 6:50:19 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Gabz; DaveLoneRanger; archy; Jack Black; knighthawk; editor-surveyor; Joe Brower; Josh Painter; ...

Ping!


7 posted on 05/10/2014 6:52:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: driftdiver

“...Amazing how many secret laws we are getting....”

This guy has an R after his name, and he wants to make you a FELON for being able to print one of these.

He should thrown out of office.


8 posted on 05/10/2014 6:53:48 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: central_va
You haven't been paying attention. 3-D printers can sinter all kinds of metals.

/johnny

9 posted on 05/10/2014 6:54:09 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: central_va; null and void

There are 3-D printers that print in metal, carbon fiber, cement, bone, human tissue, etc., etc. Search the keyword “3DPRINTER” here and be amazed.


10 posted on 05/10/2014 6:55:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Rope is going to eventually be required, if legislators don't start respecting freedom.

/johnny

11 posted on 05/10/2014 6:59:34 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Rope is going to eventually be required, if legislators don't start respecting freedom.

That would be a good use for a 3D printer. We can customize the neck size.
12 posted on 05/10/2014 7:03:15 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: NFHale

Re-read the article. This (R) legislator posted this proposed “secret” law after he took a picture of it with his cell phone - he does not support it.


13 posted on 05/10/2014 7:03:50 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED.)
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To: NFHale

He’s the guy that uncovered the secret and took a photo with his cellphone, I believe.


14 posted on 05/10/2014 7:06:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: null and void

It’s all “plastic” or whatever synthetic?


15 posted on 05/10/2014 7:07:03 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks ("I can see Putin's bootprint on 0bama's ass from my house"! Sarah Palin)
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To: central_va; 2ndDivisionVet

What he said.


16 posted on 05/10/2014 7:07:04 PM PDT by null and void ( They don't think think they are above the law. They think they are the law.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Isn’t there already a federal law against making non metallic firearms?


17 posted on 05/10/2014 7:13:26 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin
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To: NFHale

Reading comprehension not one of your stronger areas?


18 posted on 05/10/2014 7:13:34 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: driftdiver; 2ndDivisionVet; Pyro7480; blueyon; Abby4116; DelmarvaMike; pray4liberty; coolbreeze; ...

There is no “secret law” here. Proposed legislation is always passed around prior to printing when the primary sponsor is seeking co sponsors.

This hasn’t even been introduced yet - it is just a proposal.

DelMarVa Ping (comment here or FReepmail me if wanting on or off) -— I thought McDowell was long gone from the Delaware Senate..............Sheesh. OTOH, if this is still the same McDowell I knew in my years at Leg Hall - he may very well be proposing this to prove a point, he was well known for things like that.


19 posted on 05/10/2014 7:15:48 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

US Senator Schumer calls for legislation to make 3D printed guns illegal
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3016153/posts


20 posted on 05/10/2014 7:18:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: PAR35; 43north; 2ndDivisionVet

“..Reading comprehension not one of your stronger areas?...”

Clearly...

My bad.

A couple of shots of JD will do that to me. Been a very long day.


21 posted on 05/10/2014 7:26:08 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale
Unfortunately, the R's have given us very little reason to trust that they will do the right thing, even if this one did.

/johnny

22 posted on 05/10/2014 7:28:34 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

That one is steel.


23 posted on 05/10/2014 7:28:41 PM PDT by null and void ( They don't think think they are above the law. They think they are the law.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

True that.

I jumped all over this guy though, and I was wrong about it. Misread it.

I’ve had a few drinks and things aren;t registering well..


24 posted on 05/10/2014 7:30:34 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: null and void; central_va
That’s not plastic. It’s stainless steel through and through.

Yes, but the article is talking about guns made of NON-METAL material.

25 posted on 05/10/2014 7:31:48 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Yeah. The metal gun is one of my stock 3-D printer images. So sue me...

};^P>


26 posted on 05/10/2014 7:33:22 PM PDT by null and void ( They don't think think they are above the law. They think they are the law.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I wonder if sintered metal is strong enough for a handgun?


27 posted on 05/10/2014 7:59:15 PM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: central_va

The technology is laser sintered metal powder. It is out of reach of most of us.


28 posted on 05/10/2014 9:02:53 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: 43north

Spiegelman is a strong 2nd Amendment supporter and consistently votes against the anti-gun hysteria that oozes out of our General Assembly in Dover. This is a Democrat bill and since both the House and Senate are overwhelmingly Democrat, this ‘proposal’ will probably pass and be put into the books by our left wing administration. We are fast becoming New Jersey, Jr as our nanny legislators outdo each other to put us under their thumbs.


29 posted on 05/10/2014 9:45:20 PM PDT by Hartlyboy
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To: Hartlyboy

How serious is a Class G felony? And how much is the state regime budgeting for new prisons, hiring new guards, making up for lost revenue, etc.?


30 posted on 05/11/2014 4:13:41 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Umm, aren’t all guns 3-D?

Just saying.


31 posted on 05/11/2014 4:41:12 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Hartlyboy

It is becoming increasingly difficult, nay, impossible to live in freedom in the northeastern states.


32 posted on 05/11/2014 9:34:37 AM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED.)
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To: central_va

Not all printers create plastic parts. There are several methods to produce metal parts with 3D printers.


33 posted on 05/11/2014 6:30:18 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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