Posted on 05/10/2014 8:23:46 PM PDT by No One Special
Edited on 05/10/2014 8:34:10 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Could care less about Snowden’s personal life. Just want to know when the NSA data base containing information on law abiding US citizens will be destroyed.
Perhaps Just as irrelevant as the hero worship is the thesis that because the guy is not a paladin the incident must be about him and not about the corrupt reality he exposed. You rail on and on about the guy and imply we are attempting to put the guy on a pedestal. But as we've seen time and time again this is a diversionary smear at best and and utterly irrelevant. Hello! The US developed an intelligence-gathering apparatus that intentionally undermined the security of freedom, and has crossed the line and gained power which is essentially corrupting, asserting un-examinable authority. The continued embezzlement of the integrity of our national interest can really have no successful outcome. Everyone everywhere could speculate about what was going on and the sheer number of participants meant it was never a perfect secret. At some point the purview expanded to include everyone in the world and all justification became permanently self-serving.
There is no excusing it really. And there was no perfect way to expose it. People operating the government felt the Constitution really didn't mean what it said, what it implied, and what Congress had set forth to ensure operation with the limits of power. They deliberately set about undermining freedom and gathering power. It's purely criminal. The facade has slipped permanently - we know the truth.
Your credibility slips every time you attack Snowden, not because you are right or wrong, but because you are obviously trying to engage us in a diversionary justification of the misdeeds committed by government officials. Attacks on Snowden are clearly either mendacious or stupidly foolish. You can't justify it, and it will never be relevant except to out an attacker as mendacious or foolish, or both. Whether it plays into the hands of the Russians is irrelevant, because we were asked to excuse a crapload of criminality with a thesis of "trust us, it's national security, we know what we are doing better than you ever could", but it wasn't true, wasn't ever true, and was just a disguise for naked abuse of power. What the Russians or any other actor gains is truly irrelevant compared to what was lost by the actions of government officials who impeached their oaths.
We ain't buying no pig in a poke no more. Sadly, your kind will keep coming back to see if we've changed our minds in a moment of weakness...
At best. Really it's dreadfully obvious someone is running an astroturf enterprise here. At best. Maybe they want to see who will speak out against this nonsense, so they can identify who to target...I have a hazy mental outline of some disinformation team bent to the task of ticking off objectives in some standard exercise.
We're probably suckers to even bother to speak out against this instead of polishing our skills at self-organizing criticality.
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