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Pope Francis: 'Tea Party Catholic'?
Breitbart's Big Peace ^ | May 10, 2014 | Robert Wilde

Posted on 05/10/2014 8:46:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

On Breitbart News Saturday, Executive Chairman Stephen K. Bannon and Editor in Chief Alex Marlow discussed Pope Francis's remarks to the United Nations where he called for "legitimate redistribution of economic benefits by the State," using government and the private sector. Bannon asked guest Austin Ruse, former head of the Catholic Family and Human Rights Institute and a Breitbart contributor, “Is Pope Francis a Commie?"

"I know he is a Jesuit," Bannon said, explaining that Jesuits sit at the vanguard of the Communist revolution in Latin America there, before asking if "Pope Francis been taken over by liberation theology?” Bannon, who also hosts Breitbart News Sunday, noted that the pontiff had tweeted from his official account a couple of weeks ago that “inequality is the root of social evil.”

Ruse answered by saying that, “I don’t think he is a Communist. I think that he is largely misunderstood.”(continued)

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To: imardmd1

“legitimate redistribution of economic benefits by the State,” said Pope Francis.

I am reminded of the account of the prodigal son. He did come to his senses and when he returned his father accepted him. This progressive redistributionist theory would imply as the son left the father should have his wealth taken by an authority and given to his son. Son, in turn would have not learned anything except that what someone else has is his. His continued squandering of resources of his father’s would have left both of them destitute. One reason is because the son would have kept demanding more. Sound familiar???? The Pope, in my opinion, should be teaching Christ’s followers to follow God’s lead in giving and helping others including those who do not follow Christ. This teaches Christ’s followers to listen to God and look around for those less fortunate. All of this is designed to show others God who do not know Him. It teaches us to follow God with ALL of our heart. We only become more resentful as it is taken from us in the name of good, not God. It only encourages more demands once it starts. No wonder South America has had so many troubles.


21 posted on 05/10/2014 9:44:17 PM PDT by taterjay
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To: usconservative

“Expansive treasures”? You mean like selling the Vatican library? auctioning the Pieta,” renting the Sistine Chapel?


22 posted on 05/10/2014 9:47:19 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama is fundamentally transforming America, and this Jesuit is fundamentally transforming the Catholic church.


23 posted on 05/10/2014 9:56:00 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: taterjay

The parable of the talents glorifies the industrious and rebukes the indolent. Specifically, the distribution of the talents is pointedly unequal.


24 posted on 05/10/2014 10:17:52 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Admiration of absolute government is proportionate to the contempt one has for others.-Tocqueville)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Pope Francis’ remarks are being blown out of context here at FR and in the media. Governments do dominate the economic rent of economies, and it is indeed their obligation to grant some of that economic rent to the poorest of the poor. The UN is hardly known for its charity, in fact, it is known for its corruption.

Pope Francesco is humble and open. I saw him and heard his homily and a speech, during a pilgrimage to Rome with a group from my church in February: he asked our group to pray for him. He is genuine in his concern for the dignity of the individual and the preservation of life and care for the unborn. There were two babies in our pilgrimage group, and those were the ones he touched and greeted, among all of us there.

It is good that the Pope puts the question of wealth in context of charitable need, rather than the incompetent UN approach, and crooked US political twisted approach, with which entitlement programs are doled out here in in the US - like Obama phones. Obamabucks for Obama votes, no mystery there, and development of an entitlement class trapped in political slavery for the dole.

Believe it or not there are actual people seriously in need in this country, and there is massive underemployment and unemployment (myself recently among the statistics). The Kenyan has had the printing presses filling the pockets of the nationalist socialist communist elites in this country and around the world, at the cost of an unhealthy economy, and ineffective programs for the truly needy and real economic and social problems endemic in our system. It will be a miracle to survive his administration without massive national economic collapse.

Obamacare is the latest lie, which will further crush the free economy and people in this country. We are not witnessing wealth redistribution in the USA. It is purely theft by government and payment of political patrimony. The truly poor and needy are still suffering deeply, and it is partly the government’s job to do something about that. Individuals, and institutions, including the Catholic Church, have important roles to play in filling such needs.

“You always have the poor with you, but you do not always have me.” John 12:8


25 posted on 05/10/2014 10:31:19 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: aposiopetic
"As the writer said, everyone can do more for his neighbor."

As the wise sage noted, "You can't help someone by doing for them what they should be doing for themselves."

26 posted on 05/10/2014 10:32:14 PM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: Steelfish
“Expansive treasures”? You mean like selling the Vatican library? auctioning the Pieta,” renting the Sistine Chapel?

No need to touch the art. Global real estate, stocks, bonds, cash and precious metals would certainly generate tens of billions of dollars without making much of a dent in the entire portfolio.

The Vatican Billions

27 posted on 05/10/2014 10:33:05 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: taterjay
He did come to his senses and when he returned his father accepted him.

Well, his father gave him a party for coming home, but didn't give him any more unearned money. Neither did his brother. The prodigal came home to earn his bread the hard, but approved way the God explained to Adam.

There goes your argument.

Of the fellow who wanted to excuse himself, Jesus told his disciples, "Let the dead bury their dead. You guys, you follow me. And bring your own food." No promise for misplaced compassion.

To the crowds he fed once not because they were poor, but because they were too lazy to provide for themselves. But the second--and last--time, he told them they were just following him to get more free meals, not to seek the incorruptible Bread, the Word of God, that would have given them Eternal Life.

Advancing the Kingdom of God by carnal means does not seem to be in God's plan to get humans saved, as your argument, which is the worthless "social gospel," seems to propose.

Nope, I don't have the same opinion as to how resources are to be allocated, for the purposes of evangelization.

28 posted on 05/10/2014 10:35:01 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

**Ruse added that “Francis is a Tea Party Catholic. He’s a populist.” According to Ruse, the Pope and the Tea Party have a common denominator insofar as they are both opposed to the establishment and to corporatism.**

Interesting comment. And I have said this before, Jesuits just seem to say it a little differently.


29 posted on 05/10/2014 10:42:50 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: usconservative

The Catholic Church does more to feed, clothe, etc. the people of the world than any other church. Sheer numbers. So what is your point?

BTW, the Vatican is not rich; do some digging and find out about the flow of money. They run a tight ship.


30 posted on 05/10/2014 10:44:41 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Rather than focus on the have-nots and social justice, Pope Francis should focus on the murder rates around the world:


31 posted on 05/10/2014 11:00:10 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: ExpatGator
And what the Pope was endorsing is employing the force of the State to do it involuntarily. There is a vast chasm between voluntary and involuntary “giving”. To conflate the two is perverse.

If you bother to read his actual speech (not the AP take on it) you will find that he said "to share with complete freedom the goods which God’s providence has placed in our hands." And when describing the tax collector Zacchaeus he says, "he simply inspires him to put everything, FREELY yet immediately and indisputably, at the service of others.

32 posted on 05/10/2014 11:13:12 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: usconservative

Maybe sell St.Peter’s Basilica to the Saudis so they can make it a mosque?


33 posted on 05/10/2014 11:16:21 PM PDT by pleasenotcalifornia
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To: usconservative

Maybe sell St.Peter’s Basilica to the Saudis so they can make it a mosque?


34 posted on 05/10/2014 11:17:02 PM PDT by pleasenotcalifornia
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To: aposiopetic
There’s that. And then there’s this: Here in the States, “legitimate redistribution of economic benefits by the State” could include our governments, for example, selling off land excess to what they really need. And not to put too fine a point of it, there’s a lot of land they really don’t need to own.
35 posted on 05/10/2014 11:36:05 PM PDT by RichInOC (...your newest purveyor of wit, laughter and the Popish creed.)
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there’s a lot of land they really don’t need to own

You're right.

36 posted on 05/10/2014 11:38:15 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Jesuits are soldiers of Christ. I do think they tend to be radical socialists if it suits their purposes in their war on evil. They will take up any political point of view in their battle against evil, if it works.

Looking at the Jesuit attempt to conquer Japan in the 18th and 19th centuries, one can see their shortcomings in political flexibility/ expediency very clearly.

Simply put, the Jesuits should not be trusted with politics.I do not trust Pope Francis with my politics, his expertise is the war on Satan and evil. I wish him good fortune in that fight, but he should refrain from publicly entering the realms of political power as much as possible.


37 posted on 05/10/2014 11:51:59 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: jonrick46

Your table would seem to indicate that there are no murders in Pakistan.


38 posted on 05/10/2014 11:54:49 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: aposiopetic

And that’s just one thought. “Legitimate redistribution of economic goods by the State” doesn’t need to be limited to the State taking from the rich and giving to the poor, although that’s where the current administration would go first. It could mean the State redistributing its goods to the public.

Nah, that’s just crazy talk.


39 posted on 05/11/2014 12:08:04 AM PDT by RichInOC (...your newest purveyor of wit, laughter and the Popish creed.)
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To: dsc

Here is a more thorough chart:

http://chartsbin.com/view/1454

Click on the column heading, “Rate (rate per 100,000 population)” to show the list from worse to least rates. These rates are from 2006 and show Pakistan with 6.81/100,000 murders. The United States has 5.22/100,000 murders, by the way.

I think the graph I initially gave showed the murder rates of the larger countries and skipped some of the lesser countries. These murder rates reveal an underlying problem that will not be fixed by wealth redistribution. In fact the murders reflect a lawlessness that impacts the wealth of those nations and the ability of their citizens to achieve financial security. The ability of Capitalism to flourish in a nation depends on a stable society grounded in a system of morality. Murder rates reflect the health of a nation’s moral system. That is why a nation that turns to God is a nation that is blessed financially. This is a message that der Pope should be saying loud and clear. Instead, he is preaching the gospel of a godless system, Marxism.


40 posted on 05/11/2014 12:35:42 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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