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On Paper: We choose not between Marx and Adam Smith but between the DMV and the Apple store.
The National Review ^ | May 11, 2014 | Kevin D. Williamson

Posted on 05/11/2014 3:55:49 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

I am preparing to renew my driver’s license, a process requiring some considerable preparation. My last trip to a driver’s-license bureau, in Norwalk, Conn., ended with my giving very serious thought to returning later in the evening and burning the place down, the process having been so backward and the people so hateful. I have in my life had a number of unpleasant encounters with government agencies — handcuffed in Texas, terrorized by Mexican federales, assets seized by the IRS, chased about by India’s immigration authorities, etc. Frankly, I’d rather be pepper-sprayed than pay another visit to the Norwalk DMV.

I do not expect the New York City version to be much better, but I’ll withhold judgment until the facts are in. But before I could even do that, there were other preparations to be made. For example, my passport, issued by the U.S. State Department, is perfectly adequate to get me through customs and immigration at any airport in U.S. territory, and is a fully functional form of identification anywhere in the country, and most of the world, except for a New York DMV office. For that, you need a couple of forms of identification, one of which must be a Social Security card. The mutation of the Social Security card from proof of enrollment in Social Security into a federal quasi-ID is itself a long and stupid story, and, if you happen to have lost yours in the course of having had a dozen home addresses in the past 20 years, rest assured that you’ll need more than a passport to get one. For that, you’ll need an original birth certificate...

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KEYWORDS: bureaucrats; crybaby; economy; efficiency; postalservice
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1 posted on 05/11/2014 3:55:49 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You can order a Texas birth certificate by mail from the State Vital Records office, Kevin. It’s not as dramatic as “having” to fly to Texas, though.


2 posted on 05/11/2014 4:05:22 AM PDT by Tax-chick (If I offended you, you needed it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If you think lines at the DMV is bad, just wait until ObamaCare takes full effect and private employers dump their insurance plan because the "gub'mint" now provides that.

Getting blood work or a physical done under a federal bureaucracy will make waiting in line at the DMV seem like a vacation. Think Wal-Mart shoppers in rows of metal folding chairs with their EBT cards and their hollering welfare babies who are queued up ahead of you. They don't have to pay...but you will. But first, you need to take a number and get to the back of the line.


3 posted on 05/11/2014 4:12:31 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Tax-chick

How about telling them you want to vote
Democrat in all upcoming elections? Perhaps
that would “move things along” a bit faster.


4 posted on 05/11/2014 4:14:31 AM PDT by Don@VB (Power Corrupts)
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To: SamAdams76
When your HMO is run like the DMV, we're SOL.
5 posted on 05/11/2014 4:17:42 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m not sure what current SS cards look like, but mine says “not to be used for identification.”


6 posted on 05/11/2014 4:18:58 AM PDT by allblues (God is neither a Republican nor a Democrat but Satan is definitely a Democrat)
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To: Don@VB

LOL! Good one.


7 posted on 05/11/2014 4:22:01 AM PDT by Tax-chick (If I offended you, you needed it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gotta’ be honest, I’ve been breezing thru the DMV’s here in NY for 20 years now. Go to info and get the paperwork squared away then take a number and wait for 10 or 15 min and out.


8 posted on 05/11/2014 4:32:02 AM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: Tax-chick
You can order a Texas birth certificate by mail from the State Vital Records office...

and I recently renewed my Texas driver's license online. It was quick and easy with no lines or hassle.

9 posted on 05/11/2014 4:37:50 AM PDT by MulberryDraw (Repeal it.)
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To: MulberryDraw

That would be nice. You can’t do that in NC, but if you pick the right DMV office and the right time, it’s not bad - and the only document you need is your previous license.

I’m on my 4th teen driver at the same location, so I know all the DMV staff personally ;-).


10 posted on 05/11/2014 4:41:15 AM PDT by Tax-chick (If I offended you, you needed it.)
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To: SamAdams76
Think Wal-Mart shoppers in rows of metal folding chairs with their EBT cards and their hollering welfare babies who are queued up ahead of you.

Alright. Let the revolution commence. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

11 posted on 05/11/2014 4:45:11 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator ( 2+2 = V)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bureaucracies are bad, but the writer makes a poor choice for complaint, when it comes to verifying legal status and ID. That’s something we need more of, not less.

Also, I’ve got driver’s licenses in both CT and NY, and the process isn’t really that onerous in either state.

The dude sounds a bit like something of a general screw-up.


12 posted on 05/11/2014 4:45:49 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just move to New Hampshire - DMV like it oughta be.


13 posted on 05/11/2014 4:57:30 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: TalBlack

When I was a kid the DMV in Maine was a place of horror. Long lines and very slow service. Now you take a number, sit in a comfy chair for a while (brief if you get the timing right) and then go to a window where a reasonably friendly and efficient person waits on you.

The downside is that there’s a TV screen in front of you playing videos about DUI and texting, only interrupted by some footage of LaHood babbling about something. That can be countered by bringing a book.


14 posted on 05/11/2014 5:00:38 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: Jim Noble
Just move to New Hampshire - DMV like it oughta be.

Did they nuke it from orbit? ;-)

In Massachusetts, the DMV operating costs are $60 million per year. It brings in $600 million in fees and fines. It's a nice little business we have here. Wouldn't want to see anything bad happen to it.

15 posted on 05/11/2014 5:00:54 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: 9YearLurker

Also, I’ve got driver’s licenses in both CT and NY, and the process isn’t really that onerous in either state.

I would be really curious to know if both your licenses have the Real ID compliant gold star in the upper right corner?

I doubt that would be the case, as having more than one license is against the Real ID Act, and more than likely against state statute preceeding the Real ID Act.

My congratulations on accomplishing what government would like to make impossible.


16 posted on 05/11/2014 5:15:30 AM PDT by wita
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To: wita

No, I don’t have concurrent licenses from the two states. I’m in CT now, and yes, by taking in my passport at renewal, I was able to get the star.


17 posted on 05/11/2014 5:22:02 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: allblues

I believe in 1997 Congress amended the law by which states would lose funding if they didn’t verify and collect SS#s through the driver’s license process. The justification at the time was for enforcement of child support from deadbeat dads.


18 posted on 05/11/2014 5:23:53 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Tax-chick
You can order a Texas birth certificate by mail from the State Vital Records office,

And how is that a secure piece of informantion? Like the author, I jumped through many of the same hoops when I moved to North Dakota. I got my certified copy of my Colorado BC by telephone from non English speaking Mexican contractor to whom I had to provide an extreme amount of personal information.

19 posted on 05/11/2014 5:27:16 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can’t wait to rad the article when he actually goes to the DMV.

in Maryland, it took me four trips, 9 hours and 150 miles of driving to get a simples set of license plates. When I lived in Michigan, the same transaction was literally 10 minutes.

I complained so much, I finally got a call from the director of “Customer Service.” I let her have it and told her agency is broken.


20 posted on 05/11/2014 5:27:40 AM PDT by cyclotic (America's premier outdoor adventure association for boys-traillifeusa.com)
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