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Inside Putin's Campaign Of Social Media Trolling And Faked Ukrainian Crimes
Forbes ^ | 5/11/2014 @ 12:25AM | Paul Roderick Gregory, Contributor

Posted on 05/11/2014 7:44:02 AM PDT by WhiskeyX

Vladimir Putin uses an invisible army of social media propagandists, in addition to conventional media, to support his narrative of an out-of-control Ukraine, to spread fabrications of atrocities by Ukrainian extremists, and to unleash destabilizing rumors on east Ukraine. If Ukraine unmasks the myths of Russia’s disinformation war, Putin’s target audiences, at home and abroad, must eventually reject his whole narrative.

[....] This photo circulated unquestioned, until the KyivPost (See: Moscow journalist says there was no pregnant woman in Odessa Trade Unions Building) reported its debunking by a media reviewer from Moscow, Elena Rybkovtseva. In her investigation, Rybkovtseva began with the question of why there was still no information about the deceased pregnant woman, no mourning relatives, no distraught father-to-be, and no one in the receiving hospital remembering a pregnant victim. When Rybkovsteva showed the receiving doctor the photo, “he immediately said it was clearly an elderly woman who was photographed, for some reason, here in such a pose, likely in order to create the needed effect.” The physician called higher medical authorities, who confirmed there was no pregnant woman among the dead.

[....]

It should be noted that Mr. Putin, as a young KGB officer in Berlin, was not an intelligence agent but a disinformation specialist who ran informant networks. He is just putting what he learned in his younger days to use, only now as the head of a nation.

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: journalism; propaganda; putin; putinsbuttboys; russia; ukraine; ukrainecrisis
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The pro-Putin anti-Ukrainian posters on Freerepublic used some of these same fraudulent photographs and false Russian narratives just yesterday. Note the faked photo story of the pregnant woman.
1 posted on 05/11/2014 7:44:03 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

Sounds like the Obama Admin to me.


2 posted on 05/11/2014 7:45:26 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: WhiskeyX

I don’t know how anyone can defend what went on in that Odessa Trade Unions Building. Freakin animals.


3 posted on 05/11/2014 7:50:36 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't believe everything you read on the Internet. And anything from the MSM.)
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To: mosaicwolf

Plenty of it going on from both sides.

After all, only a real moron would believe that only one side is doing it.


4 posted on 05/11/2014 7:57:20 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: WhiskeyX

What those side with Kiev can’t defend is its repression in the East.

The Ukies say the referendums in Donetsk and Lugansk will have “no legal consequences.” But they do send a moral and a political message.

The Maidan regime is viewed as illegitimate by over half the population. It and its Western backers can brush off today’s vote as illegitimate all they want.

But what is clear is Ukraine is headed for a breakup if they do not soon come to their senses.


5 posted on 05/11/2014 7:57:26 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: WhiskeyX
I have no doubt that Russia uses social media trolling and fake stories to further its agenda in Ukraine and elsewhere. But we don't? The fact is that a major propaganda war is being waged on all sides, and hard facts are difficult to verify. This is true in any civil war, but especially so in Ukraine with all of the competing outside interests (USA, EU, NATO and Russia) whose hands are in the game.

All parties are treating Ukraine as if it was Armageddon. But the only outside player that has a strategic defensive interest in Ukraine is Russia due to its exposed southern flank. To the West, the play for Ukraine was a long shot chance to plant NATO's flag and dominate the Black Sea and Russia's military industrial center. The side that prevails will be the one to whom control of Ukraine is most vital, and that is Russia.

6 posted on 05/11/2014 8:01:25 AM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: Always A Marine
All parties are treating Ukraine as if it was Armageddon. But the only outside player that has a strategic defensive interest in Ukraine is Russia due to its exposed southern flank.

Van Rompuy: If The Public Doesn't Want EU Expansion, 'We Do It Anyway'
7 posted on 05/11/2014 8:05:21 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Always A Marine
Daniel Hannan from just this morning.

The EU's approach to Ukraine has been catastrophic
8 posted on 05/11/2014 8:09:58 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: goldstategop

Ukraine will not break up easily unless you believe the pervasive Russian disinformation. One recent article mentioned a car that was stopped and searched that already had thousands of ballots already stamped in favor of separation.

The interim government’s use of the army has been one of the factors that has thrown a kink into Putin’s plans. A woman from Luhansk who returned from vacation saw that the local drunks and criminals now have AK47s. What we’re seeing is a criminal enterprise, the Russian government, reacting to the debacle of their partners in crime, the previous Ukrainian administration headed by Yanukovych.


9 posted on 05/11/2014 8:10:33 AM PDT by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: Always A Marine

That’s a new one on me. when was Ukraine offered membership in NATO? As far as dominating the Black Sea, Turkey controls the Bosporus.


10 posted on 05/11/2014 8:14:38 AM PDT by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: meatloaf

NATO membership was not offered to Ukraine, nor Georgia.

...and waalaah the jack boot of Russia is in each.


11 posted on 05/11/2014 8:23:11 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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To: cripplecreek
Van Rompuy: If The Public Doesn't Want EU Expansion, 'We Do It Anyway'

Like the Western Powers at Versailles in 1919, the NATO countries thought they could write the next century's history and greatly overreached, forgetting that the fortunes of both sides are transient. NATO shifted from a defensive alliance united against Soviet invasion to an offensive bloc intent on dominating its vanquished former enemy. NATO's rapid expansion to Russia's borders has alarmed Moscow, and is arousing old tensions. It seems that only the losers learn from history.

12 posted on 05/11/2014 8:23:58 AM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: Always A Marine

What you are suggesting is a criminal act of irredentism and criminal war of aggression by Russia outlawed 86 years ago. There is and can be no excuse whatsoever for the murderously criminal acts of Russia and its leadership. The Ukraine has a right to its sovereignty, independence, and freedom of association. Russia guaranteed that right in the Budapest memorandum 1994. You cannot blame NATO or anyone else for Russia’s criminal conduct.


13 posted on 05/11/2014 8:24:26 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: meatloaf

Turkey is a tenuous ally, thanks to Islam. Trouble lies ahead.


14 posted on 05/11/2014 8:24:56 AM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: WhiskeyX

Many of whom post here.


15 posted on 05/11/2014 8:27:32 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Mohammed was a Child Rapist and Islam is a Totalitarian Death Cult.)
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To: Always A Marine

I don’t know what the heck Russia was thinking when they gave up Crimea in the first place. That’s like us giving up California. We would retake it at some point because we need the ports.


16 posted on 05/11/2014 8:34:15 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: All

“Vladimir Putin uses an invisible army of social media propagandists, in addition to conventional media, to support his narrative of an out-of-control Ukraine, to spread fabrications of atrocities by Ukrainian extremists, and to unleash destabilizing rumors on east Ukraine. If Ukraine unmasks the myths of Russia’s disinformation war, Putin’s target audiences, at home and abroad, must eventually reject his whole narrative. “

Sums it up, perfectly.


17 posted on 05/11/2014 8:35:57 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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To: WhiskeyX

So, shooting down unarmed civilians who disagree with the kiev coup, using the NKVD-like Right Sector is ok with you??

PS- Anybody with a BRAIN knew the Budapest Memo wasn’t worth the paper it was printed on, way back then. Bill Clinton cannot/could not be trusted.


18 posted on 05/11/2014 8:38:36 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: rbmillerjr

“Vladimir Putin uses an invisible army of social media propagandists, in addition to conventional media, to support his narrative of an out-of-control Ukraine, to spread fabrications of atrocities by Ukrainian extremists, and to unleash destabilizing rumors on east Ukraine.”

And EuroMaidanPR is what??????


19 posted on 05/11/2014 8:39:21 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

Anything that Russia signs is “not worth the paper it is printed on”.

Which is why it is so disgusting seeing “conservatives” falling for the Russian illegal annexation and illegal invasion of Ukraine.


20 posted on 05/11/2014 8:45:51 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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To: tcrlaf
Well you are a dedicated Putin troll here collaborating with KGB tyrant spreading his misinformation and lies on a KGB run TV network called Russia Today.
21 posted on 05/11/2014 8:48:50 AM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: rbmillerjr

So, remind me when this “treaty” was ratified by the US Congress????

In America, only the CONGRESS can approve such Documents.


22 posted on 05/11/2014 8:49:49 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: rbmillerjr

Bizarre.

By the number of newbies who seem to be Dedicated Putin KGB trolls .
I suspect many are paid Putin internet trolls.

They all have the same lying talking points such as
Its a coup
There Nazis
The Place has always been Russian anyways.


23 posted on 05/11/2014 8:53:33 AM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: tcrlaf

It was an agreement signed by the Russians, not a treaty.

But nice attempt at a deflection...Russian troll.

This article is attracting you guys in like bees to honey.

Your support for Russian annexation and illegal invasion is noted.


24 posted on 05/11/2014 8:54:05 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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To: ncalburt
Yes, I understand your position. EVERYTHING not approved by EuroMaidanPR is "Russian Propaganda". So this must be, too?
25 posted on 05/11/2014 8:55:42 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: goldstategop

Another KGB Putin troll literally spitting out the Putin talking points word for word !

What is it like to lie and spread misinformation for a America hating KGB agent .


26 posted on 05/11/2014 8:57:31 AM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: rbmillerjr

Please link to whenever I have said that??

OH WAIT...
You can’t....
You just made it up. That is what trolls do.
Your hatred is blinding you, but it isn’t my problem, kid.


27 posted on 05/11/2014 8:57:33 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

I think you Wacko Putin trolls need new material.
Call Russia Today since you quote it and post its lies here daily !


28 posted on 05/11/2014 8:59:27 AM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: ncalburt

LOL! You are proving my point kid. Thanx for playing...


29 posted on 05/11/2014 9:00:27 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: ncalburt

“Another KGB Putin troll literally spitting out the Putin talking points word for word !
What is it like to lie and spread misinformation for a America hating KGB agent .”

They are nothing more than simply what they are...collaborators with the Russian JackBoot.

Todays useful idiots are tomorrow’s Traitors.


30 posted on 05/11/2014 9:02:01 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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To: goldstategop

Everything Obama touches ends up in misery and conflict.
Why would anyone expect this to end any differently??


31 posted on 05/11/2014 9:05:58 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

You posted two stories yesterday that were debunked. I see you’re back for more.


32 posted on 05/11/2014 9:08:28 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

blah,blah,blah...


33 posted on 05/11/2014 9:13:43 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: ncalburt
I think you Wacko Putin trolls need new material

We can always recognize an Obama blogger squad poster in here. They're the ones who always seems to attack other posters in here rather than offering anything that resembles an original thought or fact.

Pretty much like the way you're doing.

34 posted on 05/11/2014 9:15:32 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Cementjungle

Difference being, we recognize Obama blog posters and give them the same “treatment” as our resident Bolsheviks. But the Bolsheviks never seem to understand why, and complain that they are being mistreated (or change the subject to nazis).


35 posted on 05/11/2014 9:23:06 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Uncle Miltie

“Many of whom post here.”

Which one do you propose to induct into the Putin Propaganda Panderers, Pimps, & Punks Party (PPPPP)?


36 posted on 05/11/2014 9:30:12 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: cripplecreek
Daniel Hannan from just this morning.

Hannan gets it right.

He criticizes the EU's approach.

And he nails Putin...

(Excerpts)


37 posted on 05/11/2014 9:37:54 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: meatloaf

“when was Ukraine offered membership in NATO?”

Never but any lie to push forward “they are evil but we are evil too” nonsense seems to be good enough for that crowd.


38 posted on 05/11/2014 10:36:40 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: cripplecreek
I don’t know what the heck Russia was thinking when they gave up Crimea in the first place. That’s like us giving up California. We would retake it at some point because we need the ports.

Just imagine how much more desperate we would be if that lost territory included America's ONE AND ONLY year-round warm water port. Thankfully we don't have that crippling weakness, but Russia does and that's why Sevastopol is so critically important to Russia.

39 posted on 05/11/2014 10:58:27 AM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: rbmillerjr
NATO membership was not offered to Ukraine, nor Georgia... and waalaah the jack boot of Russia is in each.

NATO was not offered to Georgia and Ukraine for the sole reason that Russia preempted NATO's plans. After NATO added twelve new members allied against Russia, Moscow said enough and drew the line in Georgia in 2008. USMC units were holding joint exercises in Georgia in the the mid 2000s, and I wondered then how long Russia would tolerate our presence on their border; it wasn't long. Then when we aided the Maidan overthrow of the Ukrainian government this February, Russia wasted no time securing its bases in Crimea. Make no mistake, we fully intended to make full NATO members of both countries. That was absolute lunacy.

40 posted on 05/11/2014 11:10:54 AM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: WhiskeyX
Vladimir Putin uses an invisible army of social media propagandists, in addition to conventional media, to support his narrative of an out-of-control Ukraine, to spread fabrications of atrocities by Ukrainian extremists, and to unleash destabilizing rumors on east Ukraine. If Ukraine unmasks the myths of Russia’s disinformation war, Putin’s target audiences, at home and abroad, must eventually reject his whole narrative.

Works amazingly well on this board.

41 posted on 05/11/2014 11:11:49 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Always A Marine

LOL...so that makes it just fine for Russia to illegally annex sovereign territory.

Your support for America’s enemies are noted. It’s amusing watching “conservatives” support the illegal annexation and invasion by Russia of sovereign nations.

I’ll bet most of you guys were the first to show your feigned support for Bundy too. Right.


42 posted on 05/11/2014 11:13:01 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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To: rbmillerjr
No, that does not make it right for Russia to annex anyone; that's not my argument. My point is that the West's actions made it an understandable certainty that Russia would react in such a way to protect its strategic interest on its southern border.

Right and Wrong mean nothing to a major power when it is threatened; at such times only security matters. Consider the Monroe Doctrine, by which we have dictated affairs in our hemisphere since 1823, and ask our southern neighbors what our army did to them when America's perceived interests were on the line. The history we wrote shows that we did what we needed to do, never mind that we gained California, Arizona, New Mexico, Utah, Wyoming and Colorado in the process. That is the real world, where when elephants fight, lions hide.

43 posted on 05/11/2014 11:27:48 AM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: goldstategop
The Ukies say the referendums in Donetsk and Lugansk will have “no legal consequences.” But they do send a moral and a political message.

The cities have a larger percentage of Russians than the surrounding Oblasts. If the voting is honest there is a good chance that the referendums may lose even though they win in the cities. As to repression, what repression? Repression of professional thugs?

44 posted on 05/11/2014 11:31:22 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Always A Marine

There was never any attempt by NATO to make Georgia or Ukraine members of NATO. It simply never happened. Further, when brought up, it was rejected...outright.

As far as the EU goes...Ukraine is a sovereign nation and has the right to join any economic entity it wishes.

So, there is no reason or justification for Russia to annex Crimea or send their agents and operators into Ukraine. You, seemingly, justify these actions, with the flimsiest of rationale. Further, you have to accept the Putin Russia propaganda line to even get to that point.


45 posted on 05/11/2014 11:42:28 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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To: FreeReign
"Arguing that the EU blundered badly in Ukraine doesn’t mean you support Putin."

Very true I don't particularly like the EU but if the Ukrainians don't want to be a part of Russia's turn toward Asia then they should be allowed to go their own way by Putin and the EU.

46 posted on 05/11/2014 11:45:59 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: rbmillerjr

The whole point and thrust of our presence in Georgia was to bring it into the EU and NATO. And of course any nation has the right to associate with whomever it wishes, but it may have to defend that right against overwhelming force if it expects to exercise it. But on the borders of Major powers don’t count for much. Llife on the frontier is tough; that’s not good or bad, just a fact. Mexico can tell us all about that.


47 posted on 05/11/2014 11:57:52 AM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: Always A Marine

You keep misstating that as fact. It is not. It is your unsupported opinion.

The fact is that NATO did not want to bring Georgia and Ukraine into NATO. And they never offered membership.

As for the EU. Nations have the sovereign right to join the economic relationships they wish.

Power counts for everything. Russia will not infringe on Poland, Estonia, Latvia, etc. They know they are totally outmatched on the field.


48 posted on 05/11/2014 12:05:20 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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To: rbmillerjr

“Estonia, Latvia,”

Don’t hold your breath...


49 posted on 05/11/2014 4:52:42 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246

They are under article 5 NATO protection.

Putin won’t go down that road, which is why he is so desperate to exploit the non Nato countries. Going up against NATo would mean defeat in detail and a much smaller arms export market for Russia.


50 posted on 05/11/2014 6:58:21 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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