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US private soldiers fighting in Ukraine (Blackwater/Academi)
The Hindu Business Line ^ | May 11, 2014 | DPA

Posted on 05/11/2014 12:05:05 PM PDT by tcrlaf

Soldiers from a private US security company with a record of alleged atrocities in Iraq are supporting Ukraine’s security forces in the volatile east of the country, the German newspaper Bild reported Sunday.

The report, citing Germany’s federal intelligence agency BND, said 400 of the heavily-armed men employed by the group formerly known as Blackwater were deployed in the vicinity of Lugansk where pro-Russian separatists are seeking self-rule.

The BND declined to comment on the report, while the security company -- now known as Academi -- dismissed similar reports in March.

Bild reported that according to a BND assessment, US intelligence services had knowledge of the covert involvement of the private soldiers in Ukraine. BND representatives relayed the information to Germany’s federal chancellory on April 29, Bild said.

Academi was known as Blackwater during its time as key security services contractor to the US government in the war it led to oust Iraq’s president Saddam Hussein in 2003.

It was later implicated in the killing of unarmed civilians and arms smuggling in Iraq.

The company, which was awarded a similar US government contract in Afghanistan, also provides security services to companies and other governments.

On May 2, Moscow accused the West of complicity in Ukraine’s military assault on separatists in Sloviansk and suggested US mercenaries were supporting the army.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: academai; academi; blackwater; bnd; civilwar; globalists; mercenaries; mercs; obama; soros; ukraine; usa
Have no idea of this is true or not, but these reports are making their way in to "mainstream" news publications around the world.

There have been many reports and pics on twitter of "English Speaking" troops/guards in and around Kiev, and leading National Guard units in the field, but none have been verified as true.

1 posted on 05/11/2014 12:05:05 PM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: tcrlaf

Russia govt pay for mercedanries


2 posted on 05/11/2014 12:08:36 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: tcrlaf

What could go wrong?


3 posted on 05/11/2014 12:10:35 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: tcrlaf

“Soldiers from a private US security company with a record of alleged atrocities in Iraq are supporting Ukraine’s security forces in the volatile east of the country, the German newspaper Bild reported Sunday.”

Stasi agents (reactivated by KGB) in action.


4 posted on 05/11/2014 12:13:19 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: tcrlaf

“pics on twitter of “English Speaking” troops/guards”

did those pics have captions of them in English?


5 posted on 05/11/2014 12:14:22 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: SevenofNine
". . .are supporting Ukraine’s security forces , , , "

How do you figure that? Didn't you even read he first sentence? Jeez

6 posted on 05/11/2014 12:14:42 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: SevenofNine

Hello didn’t you read the article?

“Soldiers from a private US security company with a record of alleged atrocities in Iraq ARE SUPPORTING UKRAINE’S SECURITY FORCES in the volatile east of the country.”

Why would Russia employ mercenaries against its own interest. Think CIA/State department protecting its $5Billion investment in the puppet government it installed in Kiev


7 posted on 05/11/2014 12:17:38 PM PDT by The Bat Ladys Husband
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To: Grzegorz 246

“Stasi agents (reactivated by KGB) in action.”

Stasi agents walking the streets of Kiev, and leading Kiev troops in the field?? AMAZING!!!


8 posted on 05/11/2014 12:18:04 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

Based on their performance, if those are indeed mercenaries from Blackwater/Academi their standards have dropped a lot. Someone needs to demand a refund.

I’d be more inclined to believe the reports of Chechens being recruited by the Russians to explain the eyes being gouged out the ears cut off.

On the whole it smells like Russian disinformation to counter the reality of their recruiting and training ofprovocateurs in the Crimea divulged by some captured by the Ukrainian army.


9 posted on 05/11/2014 12:19:06 PM PDT by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: The Bat Ladys Husband

It doesn’t matter what it says in the article, what a video shows, or what the source is. If it doesn’t match whatever today’s current EuroMaidanPR line is, it’s “PROPAGANDA!!”

These ID’s would make perfect OFA “Internet Opinioneers”.

OH wait....


10 posted on 05/11/2014 12:19:52 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: meatloaf

While I tend to agree, there is the matter of “APC #700”, seen in several of the attacks around Slovyansk, which seems to be at the center of the “English speaking” question.

Given Obama’s past history in Tunisia, Libya, and Syria, the idea that he (WE, really) would pay to send in Merc “Advisors” is quite believable.

And that is a huge part of the equation, IMO.


11 posted on 05/11/2014 12:23:08 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
I've only seen this in German papers, supposed sourced from the Bundesnachrichtendienst (BND).

There is also a "revelation" that the post-war Adenauer government was aware of a 40,000 man "secret army" made up of former Wehrmacht and Waffen SS officers armed from police arsenals whose purpose was to spy on SPD (Social Democratic Party) and Communist Party functionaries and to act against them in case of Soviet invasion or civil war in West Germany.

These stories are getting a lot of hits in the German media, and IMHO represent a great disinformation campaign on the part of the FSB.

Putin is working tirelessly and quite successfully to separate German public opinion from the the Atlantic alliance, and these stories are part of those operations.

12 posted on 05/11/2014 12:24:51 PM PDT by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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I would believe it if they’re from another American PMC but I realllly do believe Eric Prince is TOTALLY fed up with working for Uncle Scam.

He is very, very hurt and upset and for great reasons.


13 posted on 05/11/2014 12:26:55 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: tcrlaf

From Academi website press release. The company that was Blackwater became Xe in 2009 then sold off in 2011 and renamed Academi.

In the hired gun field the industry knows who is whom. Report similar to the hindu press are found at..... Russia Today. tada! Ya think?

http://academi.com/news_room/press_releases/88


14 posted on 05/11/2014 12:40:07 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: tcrlaf

Ukraine has every right to hire whatever mercenaries they want to defend their nation. The Russians do it all the time.


15 posted on 05/11/2014 12:50:44 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: John S Mosby

As I noted, the meme has been around for a few weeks.

It started on Twitter, was picked up by Russian Media, and is making its way into more “mainstream” media around the world now.


16 posted on 05/11/2014 12:54:57 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: John S Mosby

A denial from March isn’t worth much in May IMHO.


17 posted on 05/11/2014 12:56:33 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: tcrlaf

You’re forgetting that the House has already done the preliminaries for impeachment. Believing that Obama would undertake an adventure in Ukraine after his debacle in Syria is improbable.

It doesn’t compute on any level.


18 posted on 05/11/2014 1:31:39 PM PDT by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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“Based on their performance, if those are indeed mercenaries from Blackwater/Academi their standards have dropped a lot. Someone needs to demand a refund.”

LOL! My thought exactly. These guys would leave a noticeable wake.(Or you'd expect them to, anyway).

19 posted on 05/11/2014 1:36:14 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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“Believing that Obama would undertake an adventure in Ukraine after his debacle in Syria is improbable.”

Actually, it computes on MANY levels...

Remember how, after Syria, several Admin types and Dem TV wonks said there were “Other ways to get at Putin”, for daring to embarrass the Messiah. Remember how ANGRY they were about it?

Now we are seeing what they meant by that. And Obama has no fear of a House impeachment, either.


20 posted on 05/11/2014 1:45:49 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

“...with a record of alleged atrocities...”

If they’re alleged, then they’re manifestly NOT a matter of record ANYWHERE.

The author is pimping for the Left.


21 posted on 05/11/2014 2:53:47 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: The Bat Ladys Husband
Think CIA/State department protecting its $5Billion investment in the puppet government it installed in Kiev

The overthrown government were the puppets, of Russia.

22 posted on 05/11/2014 9:18:13 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: vladimir998

Ukraine has every right to hire whatever mercenaries they want to defend their nation.

*************

It is good training for the fedcoats down the line too.


23 posted on 05/11/2014 9:54:56 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: tcrlaf

It can’t be true! This is AGITPROP!

That word is the go-to word for the McCainiacs, Soronistas, GOP-e and RINOS here.


24 posted on 05/12/2014 8:03:59 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Rashputin

Worth about as much as an RT “post”, true, in May— like it would be some kind of scoop. This all has amateur written all over it, as well as the players. But puties peeps? not so much undercover as “unmarked” “civilians”. Gazprom hires the mercs of any stripe, to keep the contract with the EU and Ukraine hostages.


25 posted on 05/12/2014 12:10:30 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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"Gazprom hires the mercs of any stripe, to keep the contract with the EU and Ukraine hostages."

As have so many others in the past, albeit well away from the "civilized" folks of Europe until very recently. I bet half the things the CIA has been blamed for over the past half-dozen decades were in reality things done by mercs paid for with petro dollars.

26 posted on 05/12/2014 3:16:47 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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