Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

13 assault rifles stolen from Chicago rail yard
My Fox Chicago ^ | May 10, 2014

Posted on 05/11/2014 4:52:33 PM PDT by KeyLargo

13 assault rifles stolen from Chicago rail yard

Posted: May 09, 2014 4:16 PM CST Updated: May 10, 2014 3:09 AM CST

CHICAGO (Sun-Times Media Wire) -

Authorities are investigating the theft of 13 semi-automatic assault rifles from a freight train container at a South Side rail yard, the Sun-Times is reporting.

The federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives was notified about the theft of Smith & Wesson AR-15 Sport rifles in the early morning hours of May 4th, said ATF Special Agent Thomas Ahern on Friday.

Thieves had broken into a freight train car operated by Norfolk Southern Railway Corp. that was parked at a rail yard at 61st and Lafayette in the Englewood neighborhood, Ahern said. They then broke into the container with the weapons, Ahern said.

Authorities do not believe the thieves had prior knowledge of the gun shipment, Ahern said.

(Excerpt) Read more at myfoxchicago.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Illinois; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: ar15; atf; banklist; chicago; fbi; guncontrol; guns; police; railroad; rifles; secondamendment; thefts

1 posted on 05/11/2014 4:52:33 PM PDT by KeyLargo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: KeyLargo

Discussed on cop blog:

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=13350456&postID=22557601894515928


2 posted on 05/11/2014 4:54:10 PM PDT by KeyLargo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: KeyLargo

Just make it against the law to steal stuff.

Problem solved.....


3 posted on 05/11/2014 4:56:06 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Malaysia Flight MH370 Black Box signals reported in Bermuda Triangle)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: KeyLargo

“Semi-automatic assault rifle” is an oxymoron since only assault rifles are defined by Fedzilla as full-auto firing.


4 posted on 05/11/2014 4:57:59 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: KeyLargo

I thought Guns were Illegal In Chicago?


5 posted on 05/11/2014 4:58:31 PM PDT by eyeamok
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: eyeamok

MSM video report hyping up the scary black rifles gun grabber angle as usual...

http://wgntv.com/2014/05/09/assault-rifles-stolen-from-chicago-rail-yard-2/


6 posted on 05/11/2014 5:03:25 PM PDT by KeyLargo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: KeyLargo

Simple—ban all trains from Chicago.

Next issue, please.


7 posted on 05/11/2014 5:05:11 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: KeyLargo
We all know that this could never have happened. The laws there prevent anything like this from being a reality. Every criminal there has retired and given up their guns. They have very strict laws so there is not gun crime in Chicago. It is against the law.
8 posted on 05/11/2014 5:11:04 PM PDT by oldenuff2no (Citizen)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: KeyLargo

Article indicates just 13 of 50 rifles taken, maybe indicating it wasn’t planned but rather just some target of opportunity.

Or the thieves were interrupted and fled before completing the job.


9 posted on 05/11/2014 5:20:28 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: KeyLargo

I’m confused, that’s not an assault weapon, but the story says 13 assault weapons stolen.


10 posted on 05/11/2014 5:24:10 PM PDT by umgud
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: KeyLargo
Yes, it probably was an inside job by members of the Chicago Police Department that either have gang ties or are on the take from street gangs.

This is nothing new. During the 1920s, the CPD rented out its Thompson submachine guns to Al Capone's gunmen and then stored them for his next “hit”. The considerate gunmen always returned the guns to the police armory cleaned and lightly oiled.

11 posted on 05/11/2014 5:33:14 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: KeyLargo

13 more men able to secure their neighborhoods while the cops shoot dogs and old men and women.


12 posted on 05/11/2014 5:37:39 PM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: KeyLargo

Authorities don’t believe bla bla bla. ie Freight cars are frequently broken into at that location. N&S’s fault they’re either going have to find another location to breakdown consolidated rail freight into LCL or keep paying full face claims on stolen shipments. Break-ins are probably a daily occurance in that yard why this made news is because they were guns.


13 posted on 05/11/2014 5:39:36 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: KeyLargo

OMG it's looking at me cross-eyed, make it sto-op! Wicked, evil assault rifle...

; p

14 posted on 05/11/2014 5:40:29 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: umgud

The writer is confused. Later in the article the ARs are called “sport rifles”.


15 posted on 05/11/2014 5:43:37 PM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: KeyLargo

13 AR-15s in Chicago? That’s like spitting into the ocean. It won’t raise sea level. Proverbial needle in the haystack.

I smash you in the head with the butt of my AK, well then you’ve been assaulted by a rifle. Otherwise, it’s just another semi auto rifle.


16 posted on 05/11/2014 5:44:45 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: KeyLargo
Authorities do not believe the thieves had prior knowledge of the gun shipment, Ahern said

Right. They just happened to break into that a rr car in that location at that time and then into that box. What a stroke of good luck!

17 posted on 05/11/2014 5:49:34 PM PDT by Veto! (OpInions freely dispensed as advice)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Veto!

They did reportedly leave behind 37 rifles in that shipment. LEOs in the area might know that these thefts are common here.


18 posted on 05/11/2014 5:53:20 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: KeyLargo

that’s unlucky


19 posted on 05/11/2014 5:55:25 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Operating out of weakness? Imagine if he was working from a position of strength!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MasterGunner01
I was unable to find anything on the internet to substantiate your claim. Would you be kind enough to post a link?
20 posted on 05/11/2014 5:59:31 PM PDT by Glennb51
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: KeyLargo

ABC News: http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local/chicago_news&id=9533218

“On Friday, federal investigators say it was probably a burglary group that stole the Smith and Wesson M&P 15 sport rifles. They were in a shipment of 50 high-capacity guns, but the rest were left behind. The guns were stolen several days ago.

“They could’ve been gym shoes or computers, it happened to be firearms,” said Thomas Ahern, ATF-Chicago.”

........

“The semiautomatic rifles are popular with sportsmen and gun enthusiasts. They come equipped with 30-round magazines designed to fire what is known as NATO rounds. The 13 guns taken in Chicago are among nearly 200,000 reported stolen, lost or missing every year in the U.S.

“Any time you have a firearm of this magnitude in the hands of a criminal, yes, it’s very dangerous,” said Ahern.

Of the 200,000 guns that go missing every year, about 6,000 are stolen, most from federal firearms licensees.”

..........................

“The guns were in a rail container parked overnight in this South Side yard. The shipment originated in Connecticut and was headed to a federally licensed gun dealer in Minnesota.

“They are bulky and hard to carry,” said Ahern.”


21 posted on 05/11/2014 6:28:27 PM PDT by tired&retired
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Glennb51
You haven't had to live with that cesspool of corruption that pollutes everything in the state of IL. In 1920s Chicago, Al Capone “owned” just about every politician and LEO in Cook County. He owned judges, prosecutors, Chicago cops (from beat cops to the highest levels of the PD leadership), he owned Mayor “Big Bill” Thompson, he owned Cook County sheriff's deputies. All of these individuals were paid a monthly “bonus” to look the other way or tip off the Capone organization about raids or activities of uncorrupted law enforcement.

You must understand that the corruption that abounds in Chicago and Cook County is has been in place for over 150 years. It's web of corruption and practices touches every fiber of life in this state, either directly or indirectly.

22 posted on 05/11/2014 6:31:39 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Glennb51; MasterGunner01

Doesn’t sound right to me. At that time Capone, or anyone for that matter, could have walked into a hardware store and bought all of the Thompson’s they wanted for about (IIRC) $30 a copy. No questions asked.


23 posted on 05/11/2014 7:25:06 PM PDT by skimbell
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Jack Hydrazine

An assault rifle is defined has a individual shoulder mounted firearm firing an intermediate powered cartridge that is CAPABLE OF SELECTIVE FIRE or semi-auto fire whether that capability is full automatic, burst type or both. Without that select fire capability IT IS NOT AN ASSAULT RIFLE.

Gun grabbers love to pile on with inaccuracies to scare the sheeple.


24 posted on 05/11/2014 7:41:53 PM PDT by DMZFrank
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: KeyLargo

OH NO!!!!!!! THE CHILDREN!! THE CHILDREN!! THE CHILDREN!!


25 posted on 05/11/2014 9:49:58 PM PDT by Lockbar (What would Vlad The Impaler do?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: skimbell

Actually, a Model 1921 Thompson sub-machine retailed for about $225-$250 back in the 1920’s. Pretty pricey for the average guy. Most were purchased by folks with “deep pockets”.


26 posted on 05/11/2014 9:54:36 PM PDT by Lockbar (What would Vlad The Impaler do?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: jjotto

Trains are broken into all the time. Federal law prohibits locking freight cars, so they just put bands on the door to see if they’ve been broken into. They hit the jackpot this time. They probably took all they could carry.


27 posted on 05/11/2014 11:49:28 PM PDT by Hugin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Lockbar
I know. I meant $300, not $30. What I was aiming at was the idea that Capone probably had the funds to buy his own guns and that there was no shortage.
28 posted on 05/12/2014 3:36:21 AM PDT by skimbell
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Hugin
Federal law prohibits locking freight cars,

Brilliant! What is the rationale behind that?

29 posted on 05/12/2014 6:21:12 AM PDT by Disambiguator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Disambiguator

“What is the rationale behind that?”

It’s an old law to keep people from being locked in and dying. It sounds like the guns were in a locked container inside the boxcar.


30 posted on 05/12/2014 3:12:19 PM PDT by Hugin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: Disambiguator

“The Save The Hobos Act of 1979”


31 posted on 05/12/2014 3:14:41 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: skimbell
I hate to disillusion you, but the Tommy Gun was one of the most expensive, complex, and difficult to manufacture submachine guns ever built. Expense was its biggest problem — it did NOT (initially) find the customers who could afford it. Without the customers, neither Auto-Ordnance (owned production rights to the TSMG) and Colt's Firearms (who produced the M1921 model) nearly went broke.

Your figure of $30 for a Thompson in the 1920s is NOT correct. A Colt's Model 1921 TSMG cost $200 (without accessories) and that was a huge amount of money in the 1920s. Only government agencies and large police departments could afford them.

The TSMG enjoyed only modest sales to various U.S. government agencies and the U.S. military. Thompson sales were so slow that the Colt Company mothballed crates and crates of these guns — until the start of World War 2. The British suddenly needed all manner of small arms and Colt's found a ready buyer for its entire inventory of Thompsons. Moreover, Auto-Ordnance received huge orders for more guns from the U.S. and foreign militaries (because it was the only SMG in production in 1940).

Through out its World War 2 production life, the Thompson was redesigned for faster and cheaper production. The hard to produce M1928 and M1928A1 models were redesigned — the expensive Lyman rear sight was replaced by a stamping; the expensive Cutts compensator was eliminated; provision for the expensive an unreliable 100 or 50-round drums was eliminated; a new, 30-round magazine was issued; the expensive Blish locking system was eliminated and the bolt assembly was totally redesigned; the detachable butt stock assembly was replaced by a simple fixed butt stock. The new TSMG was type standardized as the M1 in 1942. The M1 became the M1A1 in 1943 when the bolt was redesigned to use a fixed firing pin.

Even with wartime construction contracts and redesign the unit cost of a single M1 or M1A1 Thompson was $225 in 1943 dollars. That is why the Thompson was superseded by the M3 and M3A1 “Grease Gun” submachine guns that were made mostly from stampings. The 1943 production cost of the M3 (later M3A1) was $20.

32 posted on 05/13/2014 6:55:34 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: MasterGunner01

See post #28.


33 posted on 05/14/2014 9:26:11 AM PDT by skimbell
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: skimbell
Capone's gunmen didn't need to buy their Tommy Guns because they just borrowed them from the Chicago Police Department to do the hit and returned them to the cops cleaned and oiled. Plausible deniability: Capone's gunmen don't have Tommy Guns because the cops own them. No one looks for the murder weapons in the CPD armory!
34 posted on 05/14/2014 6:16:41 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson