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Sen. Marco Rubio: Yes, I'm Ready To Be President (But Is He Constitutionally Eligible?)
ABC News ^ | May 11, 2014 8:45am

Posted on 05/12/2014 8:52:33 AM PDT by Sam Troy

a 42-year-old freshman senator, but when asked by Jonathan Karl on “This Week” if he’s ready to be president, Republican Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida answered without hesitation.

“I do … but I think that’s true for multiple other people that would want to run … I mean, I’ll be 43 this month, but the other thing that perhaps people don’t realize, I’ve served now in public office for the better part of 14 years,” said Rubio. “Most importantly, I think a president has to have a clear vision of where the country needs to go and clear ideas about how to get it there and I think we’re very blessed in our party to have a number of people that fit that criteria.”

When asked if he was qualified to run, Rubio reiterated that the Republican Party has several qualified candidates.

“The question is what — who’s vision is the one that our party wants to follow?” he said.

Rubio – who spoke to Karl on Friday in New Hampshire — said that if he decides to seek the presidency, he would not simultaneously seek re-election as a senator for the Sunshine State.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Florida; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: congress; fl; florida; naturalborncitizen; obama; rubio
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You have to wonder..............is he a Article 2 Section 1 natural-born Citizen eligible to be president in the eyes of the framers?
1 posted on 05/12/2014 8:52:33 AM PDT by Sam Troy
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To: Sam Troy
Welcome to Free Republic.

/johnny

2 posted on 05/12/2014 8:54:58 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Sam Troy

I am ready for Sarah to be president.


3 posted on 05/12/2014 8:55:28 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Sam Troy

He is John McCain with a tamale and no red face.

No thanks.


4 posted on 05/12/2014 8:55:36 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: Sam Troy

I think Rubio blew it when he was ill prepared for a very important post SOTU response. Standing, reahing for water, weating, talking too fast....

It tells me he isn’t prepared.


5 posted on 05/12/2014 8:57:01 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Sam Troy

President of what country? Venezuela?


6 posted on 05/12/2014 9:03:55 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: Sam Troy

NO! Definitely NOT.

A MUST read if you want to be informed.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2840767/posts


7 posted on 05/12/2014 9:05:29 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Sam Troy

NBC for dummies or NBC 101

http://birthers.org/misc/logic.htm


8 posted on 05/12/2014 9:08:54 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Sam Troy

Ineligible candidates elected by unqualified voters, resulting in illegitimate government. That’s the way America rolls these days.


9 posted on 05/12/2014 9:09:13 AM PDT by beelzepug (You can't fix a broken washing machine by washing more expensive clothes in it.)
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To: Sam Troy

Rubio would be the 3rd straight Republican to run for President that their father was born outside of the USA.


10 posted on 05/12/2014 9:09:24 AM PDT by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: Sam Troy

Romney was ready. Twice.


11 posted on 05/12/2014 9:10:02 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: Sam Troy

He’s ready for a huge pile of crap Senate amnesty bill, for sure.


12 posted on 05/12/2014 9:10:57 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'I never said that you can keep your doctor . Republicans lie about me ')
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To: Sam Troy

From Senator Rubio’s Wikipedia entry: Rubio was born in Miami, Florida, the second son and third child of Mario Rubio and Oria Garcia. His parents were Cubans who had immigrated to the United States in 1956 and were naturalized as U.S. citizens in 1975. Rubio’s maternal grandfather, Pedro Victor Garcia, also immigrated legally to the U.S. in 1956, but returned to Cuba to find work in 1959. When he returned to the U.S. in 1962 without a visa, U.S. embassies in Cuba being closed, an immigration judge ordered him deported. U.S. immigration authorities ultimately used their discretion to allow him to remain in the U.S. without a visa. The Associated Press concludes that Garcia may have been undocumented for four years until 1966.

In October 2011, the St. Petersburg Times and The Washington Post reported that Rubio’s previous statements that his parents were forced to leave Cuba in 1959, after Fidel Castro came to power, were incorrect as they had in fact left Cuba in 1956 during the dictatorship of Fulgencio Batista. According to The Washington Post, Rubio’s “embellishments” resonate with many voters in Florida, who would not be as impressed by his family being economic migrants seeking a better life in the U.S. instead of political refugees from a communist regime. Rubio responded: “The real essence of my family’s story is not about the date my parents first entered the United States. Or whether they traveled back and forth between the two nations. Or even the date they left Fidel Castro’s Cuba forever and permanently settled here. The essence of my family story is why they came to America in the first place; and why they had to stay.”


13 posted on 05/12/2014 9:11:00 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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To: Sam Troy

Gosh, I think this is the very first time this subject has been raised on FR. /sarc


14 posted on 05/12/2014 9:11:29 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Sam Troy; All

Is there any truth to the vicious rumor that as President, Rubio would annex the Sovereign Nation of Mexico to be the 51 st, (or would it be the 58 th?), US State?

That would certainly solve the pesky problem of Doormat Republicans, such as Boehner, approving Obama’s Democrat New Voters Plan of Amnesty for the Illegal Alien Invaders from Mexico.


15 posted on 05/12/2014 9:14:45 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Sam Troy

Looks to me like he’s ready for male pattern baldness.

Outside of that...nothing.


16 posted on 05/12/2014 9:16:48 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Sam Troy; Absolutely Nobama; aragorn; Art in Idaho; Aurorales; autumnraine; azishot; AZ .44 MAG; ...
Constitutional Eligibility

17 posted on 05/12/2014 9:19:33 AM PDT by null and void ( They don't think think they are above the law. They think they are the law.)
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To: Sam Troy
 photo gramexico_zps9d3aeeb9.jpg First he has to get past his and Grahams' amnesty plan.
18 posted on 05/12/2014 9:23:19 AM PDT by RetSignman
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To: Sam Troy

Nobody asked if 0 was Constitutionally Eligible.


19 posted on 05/12/2014 9:25:31 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: null and void; Sam Troy; Absolutely Nobama; aragorn; Art in Idaho; Aurorales; autumnraine; ...
Of course Marco Rubio is eligible. and so are Ted and Bobby J.

You see, all that is required is that a candidate claim Natural Born Citizenship for it to be so. It is only dumb, elderly, white Republican racist males who claim that one must be born of two-that's 2-American citizens somewhere under American jurisdiction to claim the honor.

Yo, this is already 'settled science." No need to involve the courts. Move along, nothing to see here. If you don't believe me, ask the SCOTUS.

20 posted on 05/12/2014 9:28:30 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Take congress in 2014. Have a Constitutional Convention of the States. Save the Republic.)
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To: Sam Troy

Marco’s problem is, now that we know him we’re ready for him.


21 posted on 05/12/2014 9:32:15 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Kenny Bunk

DEWRRM’s <<<Proud member.


22 posted on 05/12/2014 9:35:31 AM PDT by GregNH (If you can't fight, please find a good place to hide!)
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To: JulieRNR21; kinganamort; katherineisgreat; floriduh voter; summer; Goldwater Girl; windchime; ...
I wish this statement made me feel better than it does.

Florida Freeper


23 posted on 05/12/2014 9:40:45 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: GregNH
You, a DEWRRM Member?

Who knew? I always pictured you at about 23.

24 posted on 05/12/2014 9:44:28 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Take congress in 2014. Have a Constitutional Convention of the States. Save the Republic.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Nah, I’m closer to 60 than 55.


25 posted on 05/12/2014 9:46:09 AM PDT by GregNH (If you can't fight, please find a good place to hide!)
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To: I want the USA back

There have been more than 200 lawsuits adjudicated since 2008 that have challenged Obama’s eligibility. The latest legal challenge to Obama’s natural born citizenship status will be discussed in conference at SCOTUS later this week (Vogt v. U.S. District Court for The Western District of Washington).


26 posted on 05/12/2014 9:48:47 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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To: Sam Troy

I am an “original intent” kinda guy. The main reason is that I believe that our framers and founders were inspired by God. The Constitution is such an incredible document that God MUST have had a hand in it. He has blessed our nation (at least until now).

I can’t say the same for our courts and judges.

After reading the essay: The Constitutional Meaning Of “Natural Born Citizen” (see post #7 above), you will have to honestly admit that what the Constitution means by “Natural Born Citizen”, is “physically born IN the United States by TWO citizen parents.”

Like I have said before, If you were born in the contiguous United States (48) by two citizen parents who were U.S. citizens at the time of your birth, you are definitely a “Natural Born Citizen”.

At this time it is still possible to have been born in Alaska and Hawaii before they were states. Territories and possessions have various different citizenship laws. If you were not born in the lower 48, your NBC status becomes a “maybe”, and requires additional research.

Your NBC status is determined at the second of your birth. Where are you? What is the citizenship of your parentS?


27 posted on 05/12/2014 9:49:02 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Sam Troy
He was born in Miami FL. He is a natural born citizen. He is over 43 years of age. He is also at least as qualified as Obama.

I would prefer him to be in a cabinet position in a Republican Administration. Even a VP post. I really feel we need a person with executive experience. A governor like Jindal, Perry, or Scott Walker. They have been able to lead in difficult times and show success.

28 posted on 05/12/2014 9:49:07 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Sam Troy

I am an “original intent” kinda guy. The main reason is that I believe that our framers and founders were inspired by God. The Constitution is such an incredible document that God MUST have had a hand in it. He has blessed our nation (at least until now).

I can’t say the same for our courts and judges.

After reading the essay: The Constitutional Meaning Of “Natural Born Citizen” (see post #7 above), you will have to honestly admit that what the Constitution means by “Natural Born Citizen”, is “physically born IN the United States by TWO citizen parents.”

Like I have said before, If you were born in the contiguous United States (48) by two citizen parents who were U.S. citizens at the time of your birth, you are definitely a “Natural Born Citizen”.

At this time it is still possible to have been born in Alaska and Hawaii before they were states. Territories and possessions have various different citizenship laws. If you were not born in the lower 48, your NBC status becomes a “maybe”, and requires additional research.

Your NBC status is determined at the second of your birth. Where are you? What is the citizenship of your parentS?


29 posted on 05/12/2014 9:49:16 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Sam Troy

No, you are not. At best, President of a lemonade stand.


30 posted on 05/12/2014 9:50:12 AM PDT by mulligan (I)
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To: faucetman

Sorry for double post my computer said page can’t be displayed so I thought it didn’t post, it had.


31 posted on 05/12/2014 9:51:01 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: GregNH
60? 60 is the new 30!

Has to be. Today's 30- year old is 1950's 12-year old. Make that "dumb 12-year old."

32 posted on 05/12/2014 9:51:09 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Take congress in 2014. Have a Constitutional Convention of the States. Save the Republic.)
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To: faucetman
Yo, Spigot, agree with you though I may, unless your last paycheck says "SCOTUS," I refuse to use your firm as the arbiter of Natural Born Citizenship.

The SCOTUS cannot even tell us what a citizen of any kind is at the moment, never mind the NBC thing. For example, about 1500 kids were born last night to illegal aliens ... they will be given automatic citizenship. Not only is that not right, it is a violation of international law!

Some bimbo from Shanghai gets a tourist visa to drop her foal in Seattle, and that makes little Wan Hoong Lo an American? Say something, Tony, Sam, Clarence. Can't you dudes find one more normal heterosexual to agree to look into this?

Sí, se puede. (I put that en español, Spig, because if these blackrobèd bumkissers don't get on this soon, the SCOTUS will be televised on Unavisión)

33 posted on 05/12/2014 10:02:16 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Take congress in 2014. Have a Constitutional Convention of the States. Save the Republic.)
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To: Sam Troy
The question is what — who’s vision is the one that our party wants to follow?

No, "whose" vision.

But who expects a news organization to know English?

34 posted on 05/12/2014 10:03:37 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Kenny Bunk

+1, and all that.


35 posted on 05/12/2014 10:17:16 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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But Is He Constitutionally Eligible?

Of course. He's older than 35 isn't he? That is the only requirement.

Oh, but wait! Given that the various courts have held that secretaries of State do not have the responsibility to insure compliance with Article II, then he doesn't even have to meet that requirement.

In other words, everyone is eligibile. Mao Tse Tung is eligible. Adolph Hitler is Eligible. It doesn't matter where you're born, or who your parents are, because THERE ARE NO REQUIREMENTS.

In 2016, I'm going to get behind the campaign of Vladimir Putin. He may be a totalitarian oligarch, but the man has balls, so in that regard he would make a better President than this current sap.

36 posted on 05/12/2014 10:19:24 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Nero Germanicus
There have been more than 200 lawsuits adjudicated since 2008 that have challenged Obama’s eligibility. The latest legal challenge to Obama’s natural born citizenship status will be discussed in conference at SCOTUS later this week (Vogt v. U.S. District Court for The Western District of Washington).

Yes People, the courts have Spoken! Everyone just needs to accept the Plessy v Ferguson verdict, and quit bother people about it. "Separate but Equal" is the law of the land, and there is NOTHING anyone can do to change it!

The Courts are our masters, and we must blindly obey anything these morons tell us!


37 posted on 05/12/2014 10:27:32 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Sam Troy

No, he is not. Both parents were Cuban nationals when he was born. Plus, he sucks on illegal immigration.

No freaking way. He’s not courageous or principled enough, either. Nope, nada, no way, never, not, non, nyet, nein, etc.


38 posted on 05/12/2014 10:38:29 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: GregNH

dumb, elderly, white Republican racist males - DEWRRM’s <<<Proud member.


LOL.


39 posted on 05/12/2014 10:40:37 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: I want the USA back

Why do you think that was?


40 posted on 05/12/2014 10:40:48 AM PDT by Sam Troy
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To: JRandomFreeper

Thanks


41 posted on 05/12/2014 10:40:48 AM PDT by Sam Troy
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To: Nero Germanicus
While in the vast majority of their constitutionally related writings the Founding Fathers were explicit that the judicial branch of government is effectively the weakest of the three, such is not the case with today’s modern misapplication. Americans currently live under what is, for all intents and purposes, a counter-constitutional judiciocracy led by nine unelected, black-robed autocrats.

Over many decades, the other two branches of government, the legislative and the executive, have, for some inexplicable reason, acquiesced to the notion of judicial supremacy – a dangerously dominant concept that erroneously regards the United States Supreme Court as the final arbiter of all things public policy. If this is so, then these nine men and women are ultimately unaccountable to anyone or anything, and the other two branches of government are but toothless figurehead bodies merely spinning their wheels while spending our dollars.

This flies in the face of the framers’ intent. It’s also the very unfortunate reality under which we live. It is fully within the constitutional authority of the other two branches of government to rein in these judges gone wild, but, regrettably, no one, as of yet, seems to have the mettle to do what needs to be done.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3155052/posts

And Nero, that's what a CONSERVATIVE Opinion of the judiciary looks like. You seem completely unfamiliar with the fact that Conservatives detest the Judicial system because they rightfully see it as completely out of whack with original intent and even basic common sense.

You may be bewildered as to why no one takes your cites of court cases seriously, well that's because conservatives simply think the court system is broken, and generally incapable of doing anything competently. They are like retarded children, but children who hold power.

42 posted on 05/12/2014 10:42:39 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: little jeremiah

Glad I could help your day lj, I knew KB would get it but wasn’t sure about others...


43 posted on 05/12/2014 10:42:54 AM PDT by GregNH (If you can't fight, please find a good place to hide!)
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To: faucetman

The Founders made provision to alter their original thinking on any issue via the constitutional amendment process. They made it extremely difficult but not impossible to amend the Constitution.
One of the most important issues that the Founders and Framers debated and eventually compromised over was direct election of U.S. Senators. The Founders decided against it. The Founders decided that the House of Representatives would be popularly elected (democracy) and the Senate (from the Latin word “Senex” meaning “elder” or “wise old man”) would be indirectly elected by state legislatures (republicanism). However in 1913, the thinking of the Founders was changed by the 17th Amendment to the Constitution which provided for direct election of the U.S. Senators.
It is an analogous situation with the 14th Amendment which created only two forms of U.S. citizenship: born citizenship and naturalized citizenship. Since 1865, “Citizens of the United States at birth” and “natural born citizens” have been synonymous.


44 posted on 05/12/2014 10:44:53 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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To: null and void

I hope he isn’t legal to run...


45 posted on 05/12/2014 11:09:25 AM PDT by stockpirate (Only a tidal wave of tyrants blood will return our tree of liberty......)
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To: beelzepug

“Ineligible candidates elected by unqualified voters, resulting in illegitimate government. That’s the way America rolls these days.”

“People deserve the leaders they get”


46 posted on 05/12/2014 11:11:40 AM PDT by stockpirate (Only a tidal wave of tyrants blood will return our tree of liberty......)
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To: DiogenesLamp

I think that you need to run your position by those who are actually in the natural born citizenship/ineligibility movement. I have no personal investment in resolving this debate through the courts.

On the issue of presidential eligibility, more than 200 lawsuits and more than 100 state and federal appeals have been filed. The judicial branch has been the overwhelming first choice of branch of state and federal government that has been utilized by challengers to presidential eligibility.

My personal opinion is that the executive branch of state governments, through the Chief Elections Officer in each state (usually the Secretary of State) and the legislative branch, through new legislation which would have changed the process and the requirements for qualifying in each state for the ballot as a natural born citizen, was the way to resolve this debate once and for all.
The Ineligibility Movement has never been able to interest enough conservative Governors or conservative state legislators in this issue.


47 posted on 05/12/2014 11:19:04 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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To: null and void

good luck with that RubioRino


48 posted on 05/12/2014 1:09:54 PM PDT by stockpirate (Only a tidal wave of tyrants blood will return our tree of liberty......)
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To: Nero Germanicus; DiogenesLamp

Please provide specific citation if I’m incorrect in my understanding that NO lawsuits challenging Obama’s eligibility have been “adjudicated”. All have been discarded in the initial stages as “having no standing”. In other words, none has been through the “legal process by which an arbiter or judge reviews evidence and argumentation including legal reasoning set forth by opposing parties to come to a decision which determines rights and obligations between the parties involved”.

I look forward to seeing your list of 200+ challenges which have been adjudicated, and which, apparently - from what you intimate - found Obama to be Constitutionally eligible for the office of President.

Thank you.


49 posted on 05/12/2014 1:43:20 PM PDT by GGMac ((lesson learned re Obie: parse every sentence, every word, every gesture, every photo))
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To: Sam Troy

at birth, he was a US citizen by virtue of being born on US soil... and Cuban by being born to two Cuban citizens

a natural born citizen is a citizen naturally, as there are no alternatives.

since he had two options, he’s native born but not natural born (like myself)


50 posted on 05/12/2014 2:18:42 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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