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Chamber of Commerce gives ultimatum to GOP (immigration)
politico.com ^ | 5/12/14 | Kevin Robillard

Posted on 05/12/2014 11:52:42 AM PDT by cotton1706

Tom Donohue, president of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, said the GOP shouldn’t even field a presidential candidate in 2016 unless Congress passes immigration reform this year.

“If the Republicans don’t do it, they shouldn’t bother to run a candidate in 2016,” Donohue joked at an event on infrastructure investment in D.C. “Think about that. Think about who the voters are. I just did that to get everybody’s attention.”

Republicans have focused on immigration reform as a way to woo Hispanic voters, who have increasingly drifted to Democrats over the past two election cycles. Growing Hispanic populations in Nevada, Texas and elsewhere could make those states more amenable to Democrats in the future.

Donohue, whose group has spent months pushing House Republicans to support immigration reform, was speaking about what he thought a dysfunctional Congress could still get done in 2014.

“You think Congress can get immigration reform done this year, in an election year?” moderator Eamon Javers asked Donohue.

“Yes, yes,” Donohue replied.

National Association of Manufacturers President Jay Timmons said he also thought immigration reform could pass this year, perhaps in a lame-duck session.

“This is a unified position of the business community,” Timmons said.

Reform backers have focused on the weeks before the August recess as a time when the House could move on immigration reform after a bipartisan bill passed the Senate last year.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; chamberofamnesty; chamberofcommerce; economy; elections; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; india; massamnesty; mexico
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It's almost mid-May and still no bill. They're starting to panic!
1 posted on 05/12/2014 11:52:42 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

Funny, I was thinking the GOP shouldn’t even bother if they DO pass an immigration bill.

And - funny thing - I’m also thinking there are more folks out there who think like me than think like the Chambo-O-Comfort druids.


2 posted on 05/12/2014 11:53:56 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: cotton1706

idiot....

The exact OPPOSITE is true.

What the hell does he think is going to happen? They are going to grant amnesty and they will all be grateful and vote republican?

WHO PUT THIS MORON IN CHARGE OF ANYTHING AT THE GOP????


3 posted on 05/12/2014 11:55:36 AM PDT by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period. PALIN/CRUZ 2016)
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To: cotton1706

“National Association of Manufacturers President Jay Timmons said he also thought immigration reform could pass this year, perhaps in a lame-duck session.”

And there it is.


4 posted on 05/12/2014 11:56:31 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: cotton1706

Oh, I have no doubt that they already have an amnesty bill squirreled away somewhere...they’re just waiting for the primaries to end before they trot it out later in the summer.


5 posted on 05/12/2014 11:57:01 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Da Coyote

Funny, I was thinking we the people were in charge of our country.

The C of C is


6 posted on 05/12/2014 11:57:25 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Da Coyote

You’re correct. The majority of U.S. citizens do not approve of changing our immigration laws as they have not been effectively enforced.


7 posted on 05/12/2014 11:57:30 AM PDT by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE US OF US CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: Mr. K

“What the hell does he think is going to happen? They are going to grant amnesty and they will all be grateful and vote republican?”

The corporatists don’t give a damn. It’s all about money.


8 posted on 05/12/2014 11:57:47 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: cotton1706

When will Americans figure out that big business and big government are hand-in-glove?


9 posted on 05/12/2014 11:58:02 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Don't give up! The liberals are buggering and aborting themselves into extinction.)
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To: cotton1706
The US Chamber of Crony Fascists knows that if they don't get it now they're never going to get it.

I predict the sellout occurs the day after the midterm elections.

10 posted on 05/12/2014 11:58:39 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: cotton1706

The Chamber of Communism.


11 posted on 05/12/2014 11:58:41 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: cotton1706

The US Chamber of Commies should just packup and move in with their Chinese comrads.We don’t need big government welfare whores like them.


12 posted on 05/12/2014 12:00:09 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: cotton1706; Tennessee Nana; Liz; TADSLOS; EXCH54FE; GeronL; Travis McGee; jimbo123; ...
RE:”Tom Donohue, president of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, said the GOP shouldn’t even field a presidential candidate in 2016 unless Congress passes immigration reform this year.
“If the Republicans don’t do it, they shouldn’t bother to run a candidate in 2016,” Donohue joked at an event on infrastructure investment in D.C. “Think about that. Think about who the voters are. I just did that to get everybody’s attention.”
Republicans have focused on immigration reform as a way to woo Hispanic voters, who have increasingly drifted to Democrats over the past two election cycles. Growing Hispanic populations in Nevada, Texas and elsewhere could make those states more amenable to Democrats in the future.”

Translation : ‘Don't even bother to have an election until you pass immigration reform”

13 posted on 05/12/2014 12:00:55 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'I never said that you can keep your doctor . Republicans lie about me ')
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To: cotton1706

If the Fake White Indian manages to get the Dem nomination, then trust me, they’ll want the GOP to run a candidate.

ANY candidate. Cruz, Sarah, ANY of ‘em.


14 posted on 05/12/2014 12:01:57 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: cotton1706
Show Him the Money

Tom Donohue scares millions of dollars out of corporations and Republicans. But is his U.S. Chamber of Commerce good for business?

Thomas J. Donohue, president and CEO of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, has a well-developed talent for self-promotion. He makes a point of being the last person on any stage, and he leaves no detail to chance. The Chamber’s event staff is famously fastidious: one of Donohue’s parties involved corralling a Clydesdale horse into the Chamber’s lobby. Such grandiosity is of a piece with how Donohue treats his station. He travels in a chauffeured Lincoln and a leased jet, and his salary, $3.7 million last year, makes him the sixth highest paid lobbyist in the country.

This requires funding, which Donohue secures with exceptional skill. Among his office decorations is a desk plaque that reads, “SHOW ME THE MONEY.” “He used to pound his fist on the desk and say, ‘Show me the money!’” a former Chamber lobbyist recalls. “He got his rocks off on it.”

Press Here

With such torrents of Chamber money raining down on the political process, it’s rather ironic that many Americans believe the U.S. Chamber of Commerce to be part of the government. But, in a way, it’s also fitting. With its legions of lobbyists, policy analysts, economists, and attorneys, its own rapid-response media center and law firm, its hundreds of international chapters and steady stream of officials, legislators, and foreign potentates flowing through its immense bronze-relief doors on H Street, the Chamber does act like a federal agency—or like a third political party on permanent campaign. “The Chamber views itself as a shadow-government policymaking body,” a former Chamber economist, Lawrence Hunter, said.

96 percent of its members have fewer than 100 employees—it is also beholden to a cadre of multinationals whose interests are often inimical to those of small business. In 2008, a third of its revenues came from just nineteen companies.

This sort of conflict doesn’t appear to bother Donohue. One lobbyist at a trade association that shares many members with the Chamber describes Donohue’s tack as “imperial.” “If you don’t like it, you can leave. That’s their approach to members,” he says. Not all members, though. If there’s a consistent pattern to how the Chamber operates, it’s that it follows the money.

15 posted on 05/12/2014 12:03:33 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: cotton1706
Growing Hispanic populations in Nevada, Texas and elsewhere could make those states more amenable to Democrats in the future

Because everybody knows American hispanics prefers importing more lawbreaking invaders.

16 posted on 05/12/2014 12:04:49 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: cotton1706

Suddenly liberals like the business community.


17 posted on 05/12/2014 12:08:08 PM PDT by Williams
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To: cotton1706
Somehow, some way, we conservatives need to cut this sort of asshole and his CC fascist buddies OUT of the political process.

OUT.

18 posted on 05/12/2014 12:08:53 PM PDT by caddie
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To: Mr. K

You are so correct. People forget how immigration led to conservatives staying at home in 2006 which allowed the Progressives control of the House and Senate.

Oh wait, maybe that is what they are after again!


19 posted on 05/12/2014 12:09:17 PM PDT by landerwy (Zero lied, who else will die?)
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To: cotton1706

Oddly, while Donohue casts himself as the voice of business, he has never worked for a corporation or any kind of for-profit concern—only for trade associations, nonprofits, and the federal government. The son of a production manager at the American Can Company, he was born in Brooklyn and raised on Long Island. After high school, he attended St. John’s and Adelphi universities, eventually earning an MBA. Early jobs included a stint as a fund-raiser for the Boy Scouts of America and, later, an aide to legendary disabled-persons rights activist Henry Viscardi, founder of the National Center for Disability Services. In a 1998 interview with Newsday, Viscardi recounted how Donohue made his ambition clear from the start. “I sat him down across the desk from me and asked what job he wanted,” said Viscardi. “He said, ‘I want your job.’ That’s Tom Donohue for you.”

Donohue left the Chamber to take over the American Trucking Associations in 1984, quickly turning what was a moribund also-ran into a Washington powerhouse. “Prior to Donohue coming aboard I knew every time I went to work we’d be just kicked in the chops,” remembers Lana Batts, an ATA lobbyist. “When Tom came in, I was not going to be kicked. I’d be the kicker.” Donohue was known for sparing no expense to curry favor with members and impress lawmakers. “Tom’s biggest problem was that he ran out of buildings to name after member companies,” says Tim Lynch, another lobbyist who worked for Donohue at ATA. The funds, says Lynch, poured in. “He essentially scared the bejesus out of people that if they didn’t contribute more money, bad things would happen to their businesses in Washington.”

Donohue’s effectiveness at the ATA did not go unnoticed, and, in 1997, he was recruited back to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce—this time to be its president. Characteristically, he kept his eye on the money. Recounts John Schulz, the journalist, “He calls me to his office, which he almost never did, and sits me down and says, ‘I’m going to ask you a favor and I don’t want you to fuck this up. You’re going to write that I’m turning down the Chamber for certain reasons. But that’s not what I’m really doing. I’m in negotiations and want to get a better deal out of them. I’m going to reject them publicly and then get more money out of them.’” (The Chamber denies the conversation took place and says that compensation “was never an issue in any of [Donohue’s] negotiations with the Chamber search committee.”)

hen Donohue took over the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the organization had fallen into dangerous disfavor with the Republican Party, with which it has always had a close, if complicated, relationship.

Donohue’s chief lobbyist, Bruce Josten, can often be seen at press conferences with Boehner

Above all, Donohue sought out fund-raising opportunities. “Donohue was much more hands-on than Lesher in terms of pursuing issues he thought were important—important to making money,” a former Chamber lobbyist told me. Inside the Chamber, this strategy was known colloquially as “views for dues.” According to the former lobbyist, “a large company before [Donohue] arrived would be paying maybe ten to twenty thousand, and overnight would be paying a million dollars. The message was to go after these major companies and get money from as many different funding sources as we could. In return they got greater influence and we did more of their bidding, if you will, on the Hill.”

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2010/1007.verini.html


20 posted on 05/12/2014 12:13:54 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: cotton1706

Past time for “We the People” to totally boycott the grifting Chamber of Commerce. They should have no political power and should become history. It is obvious that the funding they receive is used to corrupt the constitutional processes or fill the individual pockets of their organization and a$$ki$$ing politicians.


21 posted on 05/12/2014 12:15:39 PM PDT by Huskerfan44 (Huskerfan44 (22 Yr, Navy Vet))
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To: Sgt_Schultze

I do not know one Mexican, who has been here for generations, that is for amnesty, and I know a lot of them.


22 posted on 05/12/2014 12:16:17 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: cotton1706

Chamber of Commerce got NAFTA, GATT, now want amnesty. It will happen.


23 posted on 05/12/2014 12:17:12 PM PDT by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: SatinDoll

Oh people favor changing immigration law, just not by these clowns.


24 posted on 05/12/2014 12:18:34 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: cotton1706

Under Lesher, the Chamber had endorsed the Clinton health care plan of 1993, angering many conservatives. Congressman John Boehner led a campaign pushing companies to leave the Chamber over its support of the bill. When Donohue took over, the Chamber’s power was considered to be at a low ebb.

Donohue is president of the National Chamber Foundation as well as the Center for International Private Enterprise, a core institution of the National Endowment for Democracy.

The Washington Post wrote “Nobody has mastered this new Washington game better than Thomas J. Donohue.” “Tom is a bodacious, hard-charging, in-your-face kind of guy, which is not the style you see in Washington much anymore,” W. Henson Moore of the American Forest and Paper Association told the Post. He calls Donohue the George Patton of the trade association world. “Tom Donohue threatens, cajoles, badgers — whatever it takes to get what he wants,” consumer activist Joan Claybrook said.


25 posted on 05/12/2014 12:18:49 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: cotton1706

Chamber of Commerce of the United States of America - Contact Us

Chamber of Commerce of the
United States of America
1615 H Street, NW
Washington, DC 20062-2000
Main Number: 202-659-6000
Customer Service: 1-800-638-6582

https://www.uschamber.com/about-us/chamber-commerce-united-states-america-contact-us

https://www.uschamber.com/members/chambers/chamber-commerce-committee-100/chamber-commerce-committee-100-members


26 posted on 05/12/2014 12:22:50 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: cotton1706

Conservatives need to start pushing the idea that big business is pushing amnesty, and only big corporations are behind it.

Liberals hate big business, and if we can hammer that message enough, the liberals will turn against amnesty too.

” Big business wants amnesty so they can lower your wages, why do you support big business?”

“Big Business wants amnesty to destroy the middle class.”


27 posted on 05/12/2014 12:23:53 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: Mr. K
What the hell does he think is going to happen? They are going to grant amnesty and they will all be grateful and vote republican?

Oh, are being too kind by half.

These traitors all know that this is true and don't care. They are in it for the money and power they can accrue, not for any principled reason.

Crony Capitalism at it's worst.
28 posted on 05/12/2014 12:23:53 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: cotton1706

U.S. Chamber Blog

Immigration Reform Will Help American Workers

Why Immigration Reform is the Right Thing for Our Society and Economy

https://www.uschamber.com/blog?tid=13


29 posted on 05/12/2014 12:23:56 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: cotton1706

This traitor is working for the Chamber of Mexican Commerce.


30 posted on 05/12/2014 12:24:33 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: cotton1706

Donahue can move to Mexico if the ethnic composition of the United States is so offensive to him.

Maybe he can form a latter day San Patricio Battalion.

And then we can send a latter day Gen. Harney to see to him...


31 posted on 05/12/2014 12:27:07 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: cotton1706

They can shove it!


32 posted on 05/12/2014 12:28:52 PM PDT by StoneWall Brigade
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To: Resolute Conservative

The trouble with the business amnesty crowd is they think legalizing folks will enable them to hire more legitimately. Perhaps. But for the many who use migrants and illegals, their business model is based on underpaying market wages. Once the illegals have been amnestied, their base salaries will be the prevailing US wage. If these businesses cannot pay that wage now, they will still require more slave laborers. Illegal immigration will not stop.


33 posted on 05/12/2014 12:41:00 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: cotton1706
OH! NO! ..Rustler Reid's *¡tch!* McConnell & SotH Johnny *Walker/HIC!* Boehner et al;
(both GOP/E). May have give-up on "the Bribes" offered by USACoC.

34 posted on 05/12/2014 12:43:24 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Bathhouse/"Rustler" Reid? :-)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Yeah, that’s what this Donohoe guy really needs to be concerned about. Getting to 2016, being faced with an Elizabeth Warren Presidency and THEN coming to the realization (well documented in prior cycle exit polls) that Hispanic voters don’t vote immigration issues, they vote their support for government handout programs like Obamacare. AND that there’s no longer a damn thing he or anyone else can do about it.


35 posted on 05/12/2014 12:43:25 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Mr. K

The Chamber of Commerce and its supporters (Silicon Valley) need to keep wages low and to do that they need more folks from outside the USA to take those CHEAP jobs so they can make more money.


36 posted on 05/12/2014 12:43:34 PM PDT by HOYA97 (twitter @hoya97)
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To: cotton1706

Crony Capitalists want cheap labor.


37 posted on 05/12/2014 12:46:19 PM PDT by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo.)
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To: cotton1706
“This is a unified position of the business community,” Timmons said.

I suppose under our new fascism, it's OK for a portion of the business community to make special laws for some people.

38 posted on 05/12/2014 12:48:05 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: cotton1706

92 million out of work ,now bring me more


39 posted on 05/12/2014 12:50:13 PM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

I think the goal is to have amnesty act as an attractant for more illegal aliens, who they can pay under the table and treat as de facto slaves. That’s the way the 1986 amnesty worked.


40 posted on 05/12/2014 12:52:09 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: cotton1706

The idiots down at the Chamber of Commerce think that they’re about to get a flood of cheap labor. I’ve got some bad news for those bozos. Once the illegals are given their amnesty welcome basket with the little Mexican flag, a voter registration form and a couple of complimentary EBT cards, the next thing they will be required to do is join the SEIU. LOL! Welcome to the Land of the Big Pinata!


41 posted on 05/12/2014 12:52:39 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: stanne

The fix is in, amnesty will come, Boner and his colleagues pockets will be well lined for retirement, the GOP will become a distant memory and what’s left of US sovereignty will be established in stone as a sick joke.

People need to get over the idea that voting and contacting your representative makes a difference that part of the process died 15 yrs. ago, it just needs to be buried and the People start considering other ways to petition our long and growing list of grievances with those tyrannical, well bribed and bought off fools in Washington DC.

The current US government has all the creditability of the old German DDR and old Soviet Union. It is corrupt and rotten to the core. I believe nothing that comes out of it at any level:president/king, congress, military or bureaucracy, they all lie.


42 posted on 05/12/2014 12:53:36 PM PDT by sarge83
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To: All

the chamber of commerce should stick to watching ram football games. (until they disappear)


43 posted on 05/12/2014 12:54:42 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: cotton1706

Recently informed a small group of Chamber members what their organization has been up to in DC. They were appalled. I know at least one who formally quit.

Most people aren’t aware of what they are a part of.


44 posted on 05/12/2014 12:54:44 PM PDT by Noamie
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To: headstamp 2

“The corporatists don’t give a damn. It’s all about money.”

Don’t forget about the farmers. Really, it is them that the Chamber is doing this for. Anyone who questions this fact does not live in a farming community.


45 posted on 05/12/2014 12:56:39 PM PDT by Noamie
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To: cotton1706
I believes the majority of immigration problems would be solved with passage of these bills.

1. End chain migration
2. mandatory E-Verify
3. End Visa lottery
4. End Birthright Citizenship
5. Interior Enforcement

We do not need immigration reform or amnesty.

46 posted on 05/12/2014 12:58:42 PM PDT by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416,Feisty Old Vet !!)
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To: cotton1706

You can spot the chamber maidens (Chamber backed candidates) by their avoidance of the words immigration and border in their campaign literature.


47 posted on 05/12/2014 1:00:49 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: cotton1706

This is why we must lobby big business directly. We must let them know what We the People will do, boycott, demonstrations, etc. if they continue on this trajectory.


48 posted on 05/12/2014 1:12:39 PM PDT by gspurlock (http://www.backyardfence.wordpress.com)
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To: Noamie

I live in a farming community, no immigrant workers here.

Could it just be a West coast thing?


49 posted on 05/12/2014 1:18:33 PM PDT by KEVLAR (Liberty or Death)
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To: cotton1706

Amnesty equals

The United States of Thelma and Louise.


50 posted on 05/12/2014 1:28:01 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator ( 2+2 = V)
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