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Rise of Oceans Due to Melting Antarctic Ice Sheet Is 'Unstoppable'
Yahoo! News ^ | 5/12/14 | Danielle Wiener-Bronner - atlantic wire

Posted on 05/12/2014 5:03:12 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

Two forthcoming reports on the western Antarctic ice sheet confirm previous fears that the ice's melt will increase ocean levels by as much as 13 feet within the next few centuries. They also suggest that the process has already begun — and is likely not reversible.

The New York Times reports that both papers — one by NASA scientists, to be published in Geophysical Research Letters, and one by University of Washington scientists to appear in Science — find that the West Antarctic ice sheet is melting because of naturally-occurring warm water welling up from deep in the ocean.

None of this is surprising to those paying attention to the state of the West Antarctic, per the Times, which reports that the late Dr. John H. Mercer predicted the unstoppable melt back in 1978:

The basic problem is that much of the West Antarctic ice sheet sits below sea level in a kind of bowl-shaped depression [in] the earth. As Dr. Mercer outlined in 1978, once the part of the ice sheet sitting on the rim of the bowl melts and the ice retreats into deeper water, it becomes unstable and highly vulnerable to further melting.

Now, scientists are saying that the situation in the Antarctic has passed a crucial threshold. "There's no stabilizing mechanism," said Dr. Ian Joughin, lead author of the paper slated to appear in Science. Even if if the melt rate was too slow, it would be "too little, too late to stabilize the ice sheet," he adds. And NASA's Thomas P. Wagner said "this is really happening. There's nothing to stop it now."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: antarctic; climatechangehoax; doomage; globalwarminghoax; icesheet; icesheetlies; melting; nasa; oceans; unstoppable
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1 posted on 05/12/2014 5:03:12 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

BULLSHYTE!!>>> http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/05/12/the-guardians-suzanne-goldenberg-jumps-the-shark-again-gets-called-out-by-nyt/


2 posted on 05/12/2014 5:04:18 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: NormsRevenge

Well, its too late.

Invest in boats and make hay while the sun shines.


3 posted on 05/12/2014 5:04:32 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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Yes. We’re doomed.

but not for lack of media hype..


4 posted on 05/12/2014 5:05:04 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

The floor is rising!!!!!!!!!


5 posted on 05/12/2014 5:05:29 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: NormsRevenge

Sheet ice or floating ice already is part of the ocean’s volume. Even if ALL the ice sitting in the water melts, the water level won’t rise...


6 posted on 05/12/2014 5:06:14 PM PDT by JW1949
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To: NormsRevenge

More bovine excrement.


7 posted on 05/12/2014 5:06:47 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I just love these satire articles.


8 posted on 05/12/2014 5:09:22 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Buy Arizona land at the 4800 foot elevation.


9 posted on 05/12/2014 5:09:55 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: NormsRevenge

Somebody send Gore and friends a copy of this story.


10 posted on 05/12/2014 5:09:55 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: cripplecreek

I’m hoping for calm seas in Southeast Asia this fall.. el nino and all.


11 posted on 05/12/2014 5:10:24 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: Farmer Dean

In 1000 years, we could have another “ice age”....


12 posted on 05/12/2014 5:10:41 PM PDT by JW1949
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To: P-Marlowe

Hey, watch it,, the earth is expanding now, yaknow, per some scientists opines ..


13 posted on 05/12/2014 5:11:19 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

I’ll buy some paper towels at the store, honey!


14 posted on 05/12/2014 5:11:58 PM PDT by RickGee
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To: NormsRevenge

The melting has slowed. The first article a few minutes ago had 3.9 feet sea level rise. The next article was sensationalism at 15 feet. We are back to 13 feet so by sunset we should be back to normal.


15 posted on 05/12/2014 5:12:46 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: JW1949

A couple of miles of ice on top of Chicago should take care of the crime problem there.


16 posted on 05/12/2014 5:12:53 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: NormsRevenge
the echo chamber is running full bore i see...
17 posted on 05/12/2014 5:13:11 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: NormsRevenge
Claim That Sea Level Is Rising Is a Total Fraud

Sea levels began to rise 18k years ago at the end of the last glacial period. They have risen about 135 meters since then which is an average of 7.5 millimeters per year. That is an average of 750 mm per century (29.5 inches) which is far more than the average over the last century.

From 1880 to 2000 sea level rose about 20 cm or just under 8 inches. Far far less than the nearly 30 inches per century average over the last 18,000 years.

18 posted on 05/12/2014 5:13:43 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Hey this is good news! I’ll finally have that beach front property I’ve been dreaming of.


19 posted on 05/12/2014 5:14:33 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: NormsRevenge

This will solve a lot of problems.


20 posted on 05/12/2014 5:14:36 PM PDT by tje
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To: NormsRevenge

If I remember right, it’s melting because there are active marine volcanoes right under it spewing out heat, which has nothing to do with any alleged greenhouse gas.


21 posted on 05/12/2014 5:15:09 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: NormsRevenge

Well then, that’s it. We’re all gonna die. Can we knock off all the bogus BS about “climate disruption” now?!


22 posted on 05/12/2014 5:15:29 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: NormsRevenge

NASA’s Thomas P. Wagner said “this is really happening. There’s nothing to stop it now.”

Um, I just have to ask, was there some way before?

If there is no way to stop it now, then the only thing
to do is sell your beach front properties and move
inland and build beach condos in expectation of
future profits...


23 posted on 05/12/2014 5:15:52 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: NormsRevenge

It won’t be noticeable for 100 years and after that they aren’t sure if it will be in 200 or 900 years.


24 posted on 05/12/2014 5:15:57 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Chode

It’s a test run.They want to gauge our tolerance for BS before Hillary runs.


25 posted on 05/12/2014 5:16:23 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: cripplecreek

I am buying land in West Virginia. Future ocean front.


26 posted on 05/12/2014 5:16:34 PM PDT by SargeK
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To: NormsRevenge

Bye bye, Florida ...


27 posted on 05/12/2014 5:16:44 PM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (It is no more than a dream remembered, a Civilization gone with the wind.)
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To: NormsRevenge

28 posted on 05/12/2014 5:17:05 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: NormsRevenge

So if I want beachfront property, I should look for something in the Rocky Mountains?


29 posted on 05/12/2014 5:17:18 PM PDT by bushbuddy
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To: P-Marlowe

Look, Look, the sun is going down.
No, no, my boy, the horizon is moving UP.
HT to FST.


30 posted on 05/12/2014 5:17:34 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: JW1949
Even if ALL the ice sitting in the water melts, the water level won’t rise...

True as far as it goes. But what if all the ice located on land (Iceland, Greenland, Antarctica etc.) melts? In fact it started to melt about 13,000 years ago at the end of the last Ice Age and ocean levels have risen some 300 feet since then. The thing to remember is that this is a totally natural process and humans don't cause it and can't stop it.

31 posted on 05/12/2014 5:17:43 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: NormsRevenge

With all of the ice melting all over the world, I guess we won’t be needing those “hockey sticks” anymore.


32 posted on 05/12/2014 5:17:51 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: NormsRevenge

It’s great that scientist can make these wild predictions without being accountable for whether or not they actually come to pass or not. But at least they got to collect the GRANT MONEY $$ while they were still alive.


33 posted on 05/12/2014 5:18:00 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: NormsRevenge

So that piece of land I own in central PA will soon be beach-front?

Woo Hoo!


34 posted on 05/12/2014 5:18:22 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: JW1949

Let us assume for the moment that there is so much ice above the surface of the ocean that its melting will raise the water level.

Today I was walking over a friend’s land, located 50 miles or so west of Norfolk, VA, and I notice quite a few round stones, the kind that one gets from dredging a river bottom.

I asked him how they got there, since the river is about 1/2 mile away. I suspected that he had dredged them and hauled them there since he does things like that.

He informed me that they were there because at one time that property was under the ocean and the stones were round because of the ocean currents.

I was amazed.

So the point is that whatever caused the ocean to cover that land was something man had nothing to do with, no control over, and probably occurred long before any human had ever inhabited the North American Continent.

So the best thing to do is be cool and wait it out.

If the ocean drowns everyone in DC. NY, Baltimore and Boston, we will be that much better off for it.


35 posted on 05/12/2014 5:20:37 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: Bernard Marx

humans don’t cause it and can’t stop it.

I think that will be my reply to those warmists,

Didn’t cause it, can’t stop it, don’t care.


36 posted on 05/12/2014 5:21:21 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Now we know where that $1.4 Billion's going...
37 posted on 05/12/2014 5:21:21 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: JW1949

Who do you believe, Archimedes or Al Gore?


38 posted on 05/12/2014 5:22:31 PM PDT by forgotten man
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To: forgotten man

Al Gore found the fulcrum that Archimedes lacked. It’s called panic.


39 posted on 05/12/2014 5:23:29 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: NormsRevenge

More TOTAL BS.


40 posted on 05/12/2014 5:25:06 PM PDT by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416,Feisty Old Vet !!)
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To: forgotten man

The first Hitler proved telling a lie often enough and the idiot masses believe it it true.

Part 2.


41 posted on 05/12/2014 5:25:24 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (Because Brawndo's got electrolytes. Because Ethanol has Big Corn Lobby)
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To: cripplecreek

It's ok. We're ready.

42 posted on 05/12/2014 5:25:37 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Farmer Dean

Here’s hoping al isn’t in Colorado..*-o

Mid-May storm buries Colorado flower beds under 3 feet of snow
http://news.yahoo.com/tornado-hits-nebraska-town-causing-damage-one-injury-032637178—finance.html


43 posted on 05/12/2014 5:25:41 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Gee, I thought His Wonness took care of that.


44 posted on 05/12/2014 5:25:41 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Farmer Dean
there's prolly more than a little truth in that statement
45 posted on 05/12/2014 5:26:06 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: JW1949
Sheet ice or floating ice already is part of the ocean’s volume.

Much like the cubes melting in a glass of water. This is the analogy I use to educate the ignorant. Watch the melting cubes and see if the glass overflows.

Even if ALL the ice sitting in the water melts, the water level won’t rise...

Also, the article admits that much of the ice sheet sits *below sea level* in a depression in the earth. The melt ice below sea level can't contribute, since it will fill the depression it already occupies.

46 posted on 05/12/2014 5:26:55 PM PDT by Spirochete (GOP: Give Obama Power)
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To: NormsRevenge

They are desperate because they know no one is listening to them. Not even their own morons are much concerned with warming, I mean change, I mean disruption.

So they have to shriek. This is shrieking.


47 posted on 05/12/2014 5:27:45 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: NormsRevenge; All
Here is an experiment for all of you that didn't take or understand high school physics. They taught us that water volume expands as it freezes and conversely, ice volume contracts as it melts.

The experiment:

1. Place some ice cubes in a glass tumbler.

2. Cover the ice cubes with water almost to the top of the tumbler.

3. Mark the water level with electrician's or duct tape.

4. Set tumbler full of ice and water on the middle of a table in a warm room.

5. Allow the ice to melt and note the new water level.

6. Report back.

7. Spread the word!

48 posted on 05/12/2014 5:28:18 PM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: NormsRevenge
reports on the western Antarctic ice sheet confirm previous fears that the ice's melt will increase ocean levels by as much as 13 feet

How much will that screw up NYC?

49 posted on 05/12/2014 5:29:31 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: NormsRevenge

The “debunking” will follow right behind..... can’t wait to read that.


50 posted on 05/12/2014 5:30:26 PM PDT by high info voter
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