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Education Sec. to Probe Why Young Black and Hispanic Men Are ‘Less Successful’ in the Job Market
The Blaze ^ | May 12, 2014 | Pete Kasperowicz

Posted on 05/12/2014 5:18:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Secretary of Education Arne Duncan on Monday will host an Internet discussion aimed at uncovering why young black and Hispanic men are “less successful” in the job market and in school, and what causes encounters between them and law enforcement.

The discussion is part of President Barack Obama’s “My Brother’s Keeper” initiative, which the administration announced in February. That initiative created a task force including Duncan as education secretary, and is meant to develop proposals to “enhance positive outcomes and eliminate or reduce negative ones” for young black and Hispanic men.

In his February announcement, Obama said many groups have recognized that “persistent gaps in employment, educational outcomes, and career skills remain for many boys and young men of color throughout their lives.” He said many of these boys and men are behind both in school and in job training, and said underemployed or incarcerated men “undermines family and community stability and is a drag on state and federal budgets.”

Duncan’s discussion on Monday afternoon will focus on jobs, the criminal justice system and education.

On jobs, Duncan plans to ask participants the biggest reason why these young men are “less successful in the job market than other young people.” Suggested answers are insufficient education or skills, inadequate connections or networking, or employer stereotypes.

On the issue of criminal justice, Duncan will ask what cause “interactions by boys and young men of color with the juvenille/criminal justice system.” Suggested answers here include exposure to violence, a lack of positive influences, and biased law enforcement.

And on education, Duncan will ask how to improve education, and suggests the need for a more engaging curriculum, improved teacher quality, early access to college-level work, and increased collaboration between schools, families and communities.

Duncan will also ask how to improve the graduation rate, and proposes more financial aid, lower college costs, and better guidance when applying to college as possible answers. It also proposes shorter pathways to a high wage career, and a culturally relevant educational environment as other possible answers.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2014; arneduncan; blacks; education; hispanics; obama; racecard; racism
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1 posted on 05/12/2014 5:18:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I can save him a lot of time:

It's my fault. I'm keeping them all down.

2 posted on 05/12/2014 5:19:12 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: ClearCase_guy

You must be awfully powerful.


3 posted on 05/12/2014 5:20:18 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

More single parent homes.

More family with very little education who don’t value education.

More family members that don’t work and play the system. it is hard to go start in the market at minimum wage when you can get more in pay and benefits by being on the dole.

That is my opinion for starters.


4 posted on 05/12/2014 5:20:56 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, I work out a lot.


5 posted on 05/12/2014 5:20:59 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I know! I know! Pick me!


6 posted on 05/12/2014 5:23:06 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: ClearCase_guy

No it is my fault. My skin is whiter.


7 posted on 05/12/2014 5:23:43 PM PDT by Williams
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What we need is a 15 trillion dollar study.

Or we could just go with the obvious answer and save the money.


8 posted on 05/12/2014 5:24:31 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: A CA Guy

You’ve nailed it.
And, not all black and hispanic young job seekers flame out in today’s world of work.


9 posted on 05/12/2014 5:24:58 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

ship them whites back to Europe


10 posted on 05/12/2014 5:25:36 PM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Slightly speechless. This study is costing us how much?

uncovering why young black and Hispanic men are “less successful” in the job market

How about uncovering this stunning revelation: many young black and Hispanic men don't get to school or to interviews or to jobs on time. Many do not know how to set a clock, whether it's a wind-up or an iPod. The concept of "time" is murky and inexact in their minds.

I know this because a well-heeled, well-organized grad student I know volunteered at a job center in a "disadvantaged" neighborhood. He was amazed at how far back into basics he had to go to get these "young men" operational.

11 posted on 05/12/2014 5:26:17 PM PDT by Veto! (OpInions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Can’t be the (union) teachers. I just heard that only 4 in 10 high school graduates are proficient at reading. But those union teachers in the cities are great! It’s white people for sure.


12 posted on 05/12/2014 5:26:32 PM PDT by Williams
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To: dontreadthis
ship them whites back to Europe

Incredibly funny.

13 posted on 05/12/2014 5:27:34 PM PDT by Veto! (OpInions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I sure hope they’re willing to accept the truth. Young black and hispanic men need their FATHERS in the home, while they’re growing up. And young women need their fathers, as well, so they won’t fall into early sexual activity, thus into single motherhood, thus into poverty.


14 posted on 05/12/2014 5:27:58 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The average IQ of 85 might have something to do with it.


15 posted on 05/12/2014 5:28:43 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: ClearCase_guy

THE MAN!! The Man is keepin’ them down even though they have loads of affirmative action preferences in edumacation and hiring.


16 posted on 05/12/2014 5:31:09 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
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17 posted on 05/12/2014 5:34:41 PM PDT by umgud
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There is a reason that the word "culture" appears in the middle of the word "multicultural".

Maybe the education sec. needs to look up the definition of the word "culture"?

18 posted on 05/12/2014 5:42:27 PM PDT by The Duke ("Forgiveness is between them and God, it's my job to arrange the meeting.")
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To: ClearCase_guy
young black and Hispanic men . . . what causes encounters between them and law enforcement.

I can't imagine what causes those encounters. I'll ask some experts.

Nope, no clue. Even the most celebrated minority criminals and their supporters have no idea what causes encounters between young black males and law enforcement.

19 posted on 05/12/2014 5:42:58 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Black and Hispanic men

As far as I can tell, Hispanic men are having no trouble finding jobs.

20 posted on 05/12/2014 5:47:10 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Bill Cosby gave a plausible explanation some years back.In attempting to school young black kids on being successful in this country he said something like...”speak English,stop saying things like dems and doze”.
21 posted on 05/12/2014 5:48:16 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
After 100+ years!

“There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs-partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs. ~ Booker T. Washington (1856-1915.) ~ Educator, Author, Civil Rights Leader

"Booker'em, Dunno!"

22 posted on 05/12/2014 5:49:10 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Because they are Democrats, and Democrats are their keepers.

Because they prefer gang banging, hip hop culture over civilized society.

Because their doctrines and attitudes of hate are based on self-pity and revenge.

Because of peer pressure, racial and cultural pressure, all of it holding them down.

Because learning is hard work.

Because their parents don’t take responsibility for their educations.


23 posted on 05/12/2014 5:51:25 PM PDT by pallis
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
#young black and Hispanic men are “less successful” in the job market and in school,

There you go! All better now!

24 posted on 05/12/2014 5:55:12 PM PDT by Calusa (Were going to have that person arrested.....that did the video, said Hillary Clinton.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Because most employers have little use for employees who start and end every sentence with “yo”?


25 posted on 05/12/2014 5:56:33 PM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwellou)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Low IQ and poor impulse control for starters!


26 posted on 05/12/2014 5:58:50 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cuz acting white is a no no.


27 posted on 05/12/2014 6:06:30 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Why is Jon Corzine a free man?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Because work is just a pain in the ass invented by some evil white guy.


28 posted on 05/12/2014 6:15:41 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: Gay State Conservative
>>stop saying things like dems and doze”

AXE! Axe me a question!

So he axed me what I ate for lunch.

Then I axed him.

29 posted on 05/12/2014 6:22:02 PM PDT by fone (@ the breaking point!)
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To: A CA Guy

Good analysis. Fact based and rational.

But the DOE won’t come to that conclusion.

Time to close the DOE. It should never have existed in the first place.


30 posted on 05/12/2014 6:23:25 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m sure they’ll determine it’s racism.


31 posted on 05/12/2014 6:25:22 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Conservatives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you and people like you are known to be productive, well disciplined, easy to train, and dependable, you will hired very quickly.

On the other hand, if you and your people are indifferent to your job, quick to look for grievances, and more difficult to train, jobs are hard to come by.

Pretty simple to most everybody except liberals.


32 posted on 05/12/2014 6:32:00 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How about:

Can’t pass drug test
Can”t pass criminal background test
Can’t pass High school equivalency test
Can’t pass literacy test
Can’t make correct change for a under five dollar purchase
Can’t speak proper English
Can’t F a girl without getting her pregnant


33 posted on 05/12/2014 6:32:08 PM PDT by wetgundog (" Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is no Vice")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Uh... because they drop out of school to join a posse and give themselves up to a life of crime?


34 posted on 05/12/2014 6:37:59 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Mears

bfl


35 posted on 05/12/2014 6:47:00 PM PDT by Mears
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Because reading,writing and arithmetic are a white thing they refuse to participate in.. Honkies and gringos are here to fulfill their wishes so they can run drugs and party all day. No need to worry about who the baby daddy is. That there is what is considered culture these days. It is promoted by the press and embraced by politicians. That is why this problem exists.


36 posted on 05/12/2014 7:08:58 PM PDT by formosa
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To: formosa

All the Mexican men in my area have jobs as far as I can tell.


37 posted on 05/12/2014 7:17:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: A CA Guy

Agree. They can start by trying to support and bring back the black family, including a father.


38 posted on 05/12/2014 7:20:25 PM PDT by falcon99
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To: ClearCase_guy

Positive life outcomes from higher marriage rates to lower illegitimacy rates to lower drug use to decreased risk of suicide and incarceration are tied to an intact, married family.
Blacks and Hispanics have higher illegitimacy rates.
That is the cause.
Welfare programs that subsidize illegitimacy are partially responsible for the decreased positive life outcomes in the minority community, despite trillions of dollars.
So government programs are to blame for the ongoing negative outcomes in those communities, despite all the money.


39 posted on 05/12/2014 7:45:21 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Stupidity personified. Even the questions are laughable.
40 posted on 05/12/2014 8:21:11 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Veto!
Woody Allen once famously observed, "90% of life is just showing up." Employers would heartily agree. I recently talked with an honest to god "cable guy." He said the same thing. His company can't find and keep good people because they just don't seem to think they need to show up for work on time, and then to just STFU and do the job.
41 posted on 05/12/2014 8:25:09 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Veto!
How about uncovering this stunning revelation: many young black and Hispanic men don't get to school or to interviews or to jobs on time. Many do not know how to set a clock, whether it's a wind-up or an iPod. The concept of "time" is murky and inexact in their minds.

I came here to say this. In fact, I am almost afraid to, but here it is: I work in a place with 22 co-workers. We are a mixed bunch, 3 black, 9 white (2 of whom are Jewish), 1 Asian, 10 Hispanic. It's always the black and Hispanic ones who are late. Late for work, late for meetings, very nebulous lunch hours... more absentee-ism... I don't know what it is about us white people, but to us, "be there at 8am" means "be there at 7:45," and calling in sick is something we only do if there is blood, vomit, or a protruding bone concerned.

When we get sent off for training, the white ones are always there first. We're like compulsive. And I am literally nervous at admitting that I have noticed this. But I can't help noticing it! My black and Hispanic co-workers are warm, wonderful, friendly, nice people. But DAMNED if you can find them sometimes.

42 posted on 05/12/2014 8:29:19 PM PDT by Anamensis
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To: Williams
Cleveland Public Schools just announced they are firing 80 (count them) incompetent, bad teachers. Nothing like this has happened in recorded memory, and it still is not a done deal because the whorehouse "teachers" union is fiercely opposing the elimination of deadwood in the school system.

The teachers are mostly or all black and the students are mostly or all black, and the mayor and school board are mostly or all black. So you can imagine what it would take for the students to come out on top. The ominous reverberations of "that's racist!" are beginning to be heard already.

43 posted on 05/12/2014 8:35:00 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

Sounds like a huge mess, now if one of those teachers came out gay it would throw everything off.


44 posted on 05/12/2014 8:37:10 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Anamensis
"Late for work, late for meetings, very nebulous lunch hours... more absentee-ism... I don't know what it is about us white people, but to us, "be there at 8am" means "be there at 7:45," and calling in sick is something we only do if there is blood, vomit, or a protruding bone concerned."

"When we get sent off for training, the white ones are always there first. We're like compulsive. And I am literally nervous at admitting that I have noticed this. But I can't help noticing it! My black and Hispanic co-workers are warm, wonderful, friendly, nice people. But DAMNED if you can find them sometimes. "

That is the problem. I don't for a minute believe it has to do with IQ. It has to do with culture, environment, and pride.

If we could just figure out how to keep these folks from being disenfranchised and educate them, the nation's productivity would take off like a rocket!

Unfortunately, the culture and the education system has failed them, and the root cause of the failure is found in the "good intentions" of the progressives.

45 posted on 05/12/2014 9:56:06 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Seething tells me taxes are going up and I smell a new assistance program or two..


46 posted on 05/12/2014 10:03:58 PM PDT by jughandle ( "We have the right to debate and disagree with any administration!" -HRC)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

UUUHHH, because most of them are gang bangers and drug users?


47 posted on 05/12/2014 10:04:25 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Everyone knows that racism is not the problem when it comes to low admissions rates for blacks and other designated minority groups. The problem is poor test scores, the inability to compete equally when the rules are neutral and not rigged in their favor. The reasons for this incompetence are many -- corrupt inner city K-12 schools run by liberals and Democrats, lack of stable two-parent homes, anti-intellectual cultural attitudes. But none them will be addressed as long as the Big Lie that white racists are holding minorities back persists.

-David Horowitz

48 posted on 05/13/2014 2:30:12 AM PDT by grimalkin (We are a nation under God. If we ever forget this, we are a nation gone under. -Ronald Reagan)
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We CA Guy.....you hit the bullseye....but no one will go there....can't have the destruction of the family unit as the overiding reason can we...

Honestly, I work as a professional in NYC...if you are a minority and bring talent to the table....the world is your oyster....

So sad....the answer is so obvious...but because of PC....the need to blame others...
49 posted on 05/13/2014 3:15:25 AM PDT by PigRigger
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To: ClearCase_guy

Oh,
you must be a typical “white man keeping the negro down”.


50 posted on 05/13/2014 3:17:06 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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