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Breaking: Moscow to ban US from using Russian rocket engines for military launches
RT ^ | 5-13-2014 | RT

Posted on 05/13/2014 6:56:45 AM PDT by tcrlaf

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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

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Russia suspends operation of US GPS signal transmission stations as of June 1
http://en.itar-tass.com/world/731443

This comes from Rogozin, so you can assume it is official.
Obama has been nitpicking the Russians, now they are about to hit back with things that really hurt.

But hey, did you hear about that racist NBA owner?? That is the only thing the U.S. Media will cover. Just watch....


51 posted on 05/13/2014 7:27:42 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

Have the Russians renamed their Space Station yet?


52 posted on 05/13/2014 7:28:55 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Nobody owes you a living, so shut up and get back to work...)
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To: phormer phrog phlyer

“Or as I like to say “KGB Colonel vs community organizer” Who do you think is going to win that one?”

I’ve long said this is Alinsky vs. Machiavelli.
“The presidency doesn’t allow for On-The-Job training”....


53 posted on 05/13/2014 7:30:01 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
But hey, did you hear about that racist NBA owner?? That is the only thing the U.S. Media will cover. Just watch....

The racist NBA owner is so last week, now it's all about the sodomite NFL player.

54 posted on 05/13/2014 7:30:55 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: wetphoenix
These are more efficient and reliable...

Or just cheaper?

55 posted on 05/13/2014 7:31:10 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: tcrlaf

Since when have we been using Russian engines? From a absolute reliability standpoint, I wouldn’t use a Russian rocket engine to burn trash.


56 posted on 05/13/2014 7:32:06 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: tcrlaf; All

I wonder if the Alphabet Network evening news shows will even mention this???

There is the Jay-Z/Beyonce’s Sister fight to cover, after all.


57 posted on 05/13/2014 7:32:18 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: DoodleDawg

Smaller, faster, cheaper. We quit building the big work horse engines.


58 posted on 05/13/2014 7:33:32 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: wetphoenix

Lol. Did no one consider this possibility? Just wow.


59 posted on 05/13/2014 7:35:07 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: DoodleDawg

So why are we using Russian rocket engines to begin with?

*********************

Because self sufficiency was abandoned after Reagan. Since then we’ve had all these smart transnational types. Globalists belief in interdependence and harmony. Massive bureaucratic oppression too, but that’s another story.


60 posted on 05/13/2014 7:36:36 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: All

This is positive in two ways.

1) The most modest of sanctions are hurting the Russian economy, especially the pullout of investment.

2) Long term, we now know we are dealing with ColdWar Russia again, so this silly reliance on them for anything will be done away with.


61 posted on 05/13/2014 7:41:40 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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To: Captain7seas

I believe what you are saying


62 posted on 05/13/2014 7:43:34 AM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: wetphoenix; All

The new, upgraded GLONASS system is now fully operational. Russia doesn’t need to rely on the U.S.-controlled GPS system any longer.

This is one of the things Putin has been spending big money to upgrade. And the Russian GPS-Spoofing tech is supposed to be a lot more advanced now than just a few years ago, thanks to Chinese tech help.

Your Smartphone likely has the capability to use GLONASS.


63 posted on 05/13/2014 7:43:48 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
Who didn't see that coming, after this?

Russian deputy PM sends bomber tweet after Romania airspace ban

Moldova Confiscates Petition From Russian Deputy Prime Minister

Sanctions against superpowers have consequences...

64 posted on 05/13/2014 7:49:21 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: tcrlaf

ATK- AlliantTech will take the business then.


65 posted on 05/13/2014 7:50:00 AM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: sickoflibs

Well about 20 years ago Pratt & Whitney spent a lot of money trying to copy the Russian engine design for the RD-180.

They finally gave up.

So....here we are...


66 posted on 05/13/2014 7:50:57 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Timber Rattler; All

Who didn’t see that coming, after this?
Russian deputy PM sends bomber tweet after Romania airspace ban

Moldova Confiscates Petition From Russian Deputy Prime Minister

Sanctions against superpowers have consequences...

Very good point, one I hadn’t considered.


67 posted on 05/13/2014 7:51:07 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
Add to this the new gas deal with China.

Putin is probably saying “Sanctions? What sanctions?”

Add to this what Merkel and Hollande REALLY want: a dialog with all parties involved in Ukraine BEFORE the May 25th elections.

And they want an immediate investigation into the “unlawful” attacks, specifically against Mariupol and Odessa.

Kiev and Turchynov don't like either.

68 posted on 05/13/2014 7:53:47 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: TexasCajun
“Obama Killed NASA shuttle program with no replacement in the near future! “

We don't need a space program, or an advanced biomedical capacity. What we needed was to be able to provide free condoms to people like Sandra Fluke, and to expand the number of people who are dependent upon food stamps.

69 posted on 05/13/2014 7:54:41 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: cripplecreek; tcrlaf
It doesn’t have to be a collapse

Sadly, it does. An addict can never recover until it reaches rock bottom. Russia has already undergone its own 20+ year process of renewal.

The US federal government as currently constituted will not, and can never, be reformed. It must first collapse and be rebuilt from scratch.

Fortunately for us, we have a great working document to serve as a blueprint. All we have to do this time around is to create some kind of mechanism (better than the 10th) that ensures the states are primary.

70 posted on 05/13/2014 7:57:16 AM PDT by semantic (,)
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To: tcrlaf

Stupid to become dependent on the Russians in the first place.


71 posted on 05/13/2014 8:00:23 AM PDT by McGruff (Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: tcrlaf

this is good news

it points out the vapid stupidity and naivete of the US policies that led America to be reliant on Russians for these functions

Now, can we go back name names and party affiliation of the geniuses who led us down this path?

at least we found out in “peacetime”


72 posted on 05/13/2014 8:02:59 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: G Larry

No problem, we will just call Pratt, er, not in that business any more. Well, call General Dynamics or Martin, er, not in that business any more. Well, call Aerojet, er, well, not in that business any more. Then call Hercules, they made some I think, er, well, not interested. Call Redstone Arsenal, er, they are now a museum and finding those engineers who lost their homes during the cut backs may be a tad difficult also. Er, well, we can call ah, well, anyone consider using the blow gun approach to launching materials into space??


73 posted on 05/13/2014 8:03:43 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: tcrlaf

We haven’t had a space program for years now. We have an outreach program.


74 posted on 05/13/2014 8:04:28 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: tcrlaf

In fact GLONASS needs stations in US to function properly. US has denied their request to establish some a few months ago so a hit on GPS was a matter of time.


75 posted on 05/13/2014 8:06:31 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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76 posted on 05/13/2014 8:07:13 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wetphoenix; All

Can you just IMAGINE how foreign policy failures like this would be being presented to the Sheeple, if a Republican were President???

Instead, most of them will never hear about them. Too many media careers could be destroyed by making a Democrat look bad.


77 posted on 05/13/2014 8:08:47 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

Obama bans construction of GLONASS (Russian GPS) stations in US without Pentagon’s approval
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3106823/posts

As a newer system (deisgned since 1980s) GLONASS has some advantages over GPS. US military could easily benefit using both systems.


78 posted on 05/13/2014 8:13:15 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: raybbr

“Pawn takes rook. Your move Obama.”

The imposter is a queen and as bad at playing chess as is playing president.


79 posted on 05/13/2014 8:15:09 AM PDT by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: tcrlaf

Remember, the Chinese are also in preparations for a sanctions regime against them when they move against the Spartleys and Sennikku islands.

However, said sanctions will have a major destabilizing effect on the West (You can’t sanction over 2 billion people)


80 posted on 05/13/2014 8:21:42 AM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: tcrlaf

The Russian rocket engine issue is real:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-01/pentagon-admits-no-solution-replace-russian-rockets-launch-us-military-satellites

And it’s completely insane that we’re dependent upon Russian rockets for U.S. military space hardware. Congress ought to act. Oh, yeah. Right.

So, it looks like ‘ol Putin is playing chess while our fool of a President is playing Go Fish.


81 posted on 05/13/2014 8:29:57 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: raybbr

“...Pawn takes rook. Your move Obama....”
Obama: “I’m focused on this issue like a laser. Uhhhh...ummmm.....errrr...what’s a rook?”


82 posted on 05/13/2014 8:33:17 AM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: tcrlaf

Actually NASA is far too involved with creating global climate disruption faux science to actually worry about aeronautics and/or space.


83 posted on 05/13/2014 8:40:24 AM PDT by xkaydet65 (.You have never tasted freedom, else you would know it is purchased not with gold but with steel)
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To: petitfour

See #78


84 posted on 05/13/2014 8:47:57 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: xkaydet65
Actually NASA is far too involved with creating global climate disruption faux science to actually worry about aeronautics and/or space.

And making Muzzies feel good about themselves.

85 posted on 05/13/2014 8:49:25 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: tcrlaf

What with NASA’s Muslim outreach, perhaps we can use magic carpets to get our satellites into orbit.


86 posted on 05/13/2014 8:52:32 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Fresh Wind

“What with NASA’s Muslim outreach, perhaps we can use magic carpets to get our satellites into orbit.”

Or, as one of the Russian Parliament members suggested, a trampoline.


87 posted on 05/13/2014 8:55:35 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

Russia doesn’t know what it’s messing with.

We have football players kissing other dudes on TV! What now, Vlad?


88 posted on 05/13/2014 9:05:35 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: VanDeKoik

And the West now has this. Maybe Zhironovsky was right when he said, "We never should have left Austria."

89 posted on 05/13/2014 9:07:12 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I am myself not familiar with “RT” as a news source.

What is this source please?

RT is the sanitized name for Russia Today. (And it is about as objective of a source as, say, Pravda is.)

90 posted on 05/13/2014 9:26:27 AM PDT by AmericanExceptionalist (Democrats believe in discussing the full spectrum of ideas, all the way from far left to center-left)
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To: tcrlaf

And how many Americans are still land locked in Afghanistan with no decent way out except through Russia ? About 10,000 ?


91 posted on 05/13/2014 9:30:51 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Mouton; All
...Er, well, we can call ah, well, anyone consider using the blow gun approach to launching materials into space??


Sounds like Zel Miller's speech of a decade ago.

“...This is the man who wants to be the Commander in Chief of the U.S. Armed Forces? U.S. forces armed with what? Spitballs?...”

Oops ... the man he was referring to is now Sec. of State.

92 posted on 05/13/2014 9:42:56 AM PDT by az_gila
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To: sickoflibs

“he US buying military related stuff from Russian doesn’t sound like a great idea.”

How many integrated circuits and chips in weapons systems are sourced from China?

There are national defense consequences for pursuing free trade policies that result in the decline of the nation’s industrial infrastructure and manufacturing capabilities. These are choices our politicians made for us.

And the benefits of globalization and free trade are?


93 posted on 05/13/2014 10:11:09 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: Soul of the South
RE :”And the benefits of globalization and free trade are?”

We get to keep our cake, and eat it at the same time too.

Low interest rates, lots of cheap $$$ to make our house prices go up, yet we can buy cheap stuff from Amazon too.

Who cares what food and gas costs?

Check out my i-pad.

94 posted on 05/13/2014 10:26:54 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'I never said that you can keep your doctor . Republicans lie about me ')
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To: ilgipper

That is part of the change that he promised and the American voters bought and swallowed and Congress has turned a blind eye to.


95 posted on 05/13/2014 11:03:58 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Captain7seas

Now the question is, will there be changes made to these nationally self-destructive policies if the Timid Party were to regain the Senate, House and White Hut?

If not, there won’t be any reason to vote after 2016.


96 posted on 05/13/2014 11:17:31 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: dennisw

You misunderstand the situation.

This is all part of the flexibility that Obama promised Putin if he should be reelected.

Obama is keeping his promise (this time).


97 posted on 05/13/2014 11:21:44 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: dfwgator

re: Eurovision results...

Sodom and Gomorrah! Europe will end in tears.-(((


98 posted on 05/13/2014 11:22:31 AM PDT by Matt_DZ_PL
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To: semantic

“The US federal governme The US federal government as currently constituted will not, and can never, be reformed. It must first collapse and be rebuilt from scratch.

Fortunately for us, we have a great working document to serve as a blueprint. All we have to do this time around is to create some kind of mechanism (better than the 10th) that ensures the states are primary.
nt as currently constituted will not, and can never, be reformed. It must first collapse and be rebuilt from scratch.”

“Fortunately for us, we have a great working document to serve as a blueprint. All we have to do this time around is to create some kind of mechanism (better than the 10th) that ensures the states are primary.”

The trouble is, a representative democracy such as we once enjoyed depends on a moral and virtuous people to succeed. Such people are no longer a majority, as the election and re-election of Obama demonstrates. A majority in this country have forgotten God and the penalty is about to be paid.


99 posted on 05/13/2014 12:16:01 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: semantic

“The US federal governme The US federal government as currently constituted will not, and can never, be reformed. It must first collapse and be rebuilt from scratch.

Fortunately for us, we have a great working document to serve as a blueprint. All we have to do this time around is to create some kind of mechanism (better than the 10th) that ensures the states are primary.
nt as currently constituted will not, and can never, be reformed. It must first collapse and be rebuilt from scratch.”

“Fortunately for us, we have a great working document to serve as a blueprint. All we have to do this time around is to create some kind of mechanism (better than the 10th) that ensures the states are primary.”

The trouble is, a representative democracy such as we once enjoyed depends on a moral and virtuous people to succeed. Such people are no longer a majority, as the election and re-election of Obama demonstrates. A majority in this country have forgotten God and the penalty is about to be paid.


100 posted on 05/13/2014 12:16:50 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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