Skip to comments.Pope Francis Says He Would Definitely Baptize Aliens If They Asked Him To
Posted on 05/13/2014 9:35:11 AM PDT by marthemaria
Pope Francis would absolutely baptize an alien from Mars, if one showed up at the Vatican and asked for it. During his weekly homily on Monday, Franics said that aliens which he imagines could be "Green, with that long nose and big ears, just like children paint them" should be baptized just like anyone else who asks for it, because it's not up to any human to decide who should receive the Holy Spirit.
In other words: if God prompts some Martians to come to Earth, find the Pope, and say "we want in on this Catholicism thing." The pope would probably say "OK. cool." But probably in Latin.
Francis laid out the hypothetical situation as part of a discussion of the early Church's baptizing of Gentiles. Basically, the earliest Church contained some tension over whether there was any difference between the very early Jewish followers of Christ, and Gentiles who converted from paganism to Christianity, who would be considered "unclean" by the standards of Jewish law. Peter eventually persuades his followers that everyone is open to becoming Christian by saying, "If then God gave them the same gift He gave to us when we came to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, who was I to be able to hinder God?"
So here's how Francis tried to illustrate that point on Monday, with a much more modern example:
That was unthinkable. If for example - tomorrow an expedition of Martians came, and some of them came to us, here... Martians, right? Green, with that long nose and big ears, just like children paint them... And one says, 'But I want to be baptized!' What would happen?"
What would happen? They'd get baptized, that's what would happen. He goes on:
"When the Lord shows us the way, who are we to say, 'No, Lord, it is not prudent! No, lets do it this way'... Who are we to close doors? In the early Church, even today, there is the ministry of the ostiary [usher]. And what did the ostiary do? He opened the door, received the people, allowed them to pass. But it was never the ministry of the closed door, never."
The Vatican's astronomer the same one who dismissed 'Intelligent Design' as 'bad theology' said in 2010 that he'd baptize an alien because "any entity no matter how many tentacles it has has a soul." But, again, only if they request it. So glad that's settled. Now all we have to do is wait.
I don’t see that happening.
Rod Serling: Call your office.
This is SO important.
Actually, as there is no extraterrestrial life in our solar system, and other solar systems are too far away for any practicable travel, the questions is moot.
But if there were to be aliens, God is God in their world as well.
So the Vatican knows something? Or will they be a part of the delusion of 2 Thessalonians 2:11?
Someone tell the Pope to read Genesis chapter 6.
What about goats? Baptize them too?
all of the crucial issues raging around the planet and the Church, and THIS is what the press chooses to ask him about?
Hope he doesn’t start talking about boarding Comet HaleBopp.
Shouldn’t the Pope find out if these prospective aliens have a spirit? I mean, they may be technologically advanced and yet have no spirit in their soul of life and operate on a completely utilitarian basis. Baptizing such beings would insult the very reason Jesus was crucified and rose from the tomb! Might as well baptize dogs and cats and ... oh wait!
Is The Vatican Hiding Aliens?
That's becasue the press is worries about how they're going to get back to their mother ship.
What if they are all popes already?
Well, goats don’t speak. But if we want to follow the Pope’s argument I guess he’d have to baptize Mr. Ed if he asked to be baptized.
By the way, lots of comments here on a previous thread (different title).
Pope says baptism is for everyone, even Martians
(2) The Church does not baptize "dogs and cats" - but it does bless them, just as it blesses homes and churches.
Pretty soon this Jesuit will be twerking with Molly Syrus
You both have answered in a similar manner and in a way I think Is not relevant to the premise.
Obviously we’d be talking about human type beings created in God’s image.
The premise is they asked to be baptized.
I don’t think a goat would be asking that.
Neither do I and honestly I doubt the Pope sees it happening either. Remember that just as with previous popes and Christ himself, the doubters and evildoers are always looking for ways to “trip him up” when it comes to matters of Catholic doctrine. The church teaches it will not deny baptism to anyone who seeks it, even I suppose including little green men from mars .should they desire it.
Does that mean that those people that do not recognize a need for salvation and humbly ask for baptism, do not have souls?
Yep, this is pretty dumb talk,
I suspect this has to do with immigrants and illegal immigrants and race and not about aliens from space.
Next he will be saying that he would tell us to put poor space aliens on welfare and food stamps.
Calling occupants of interplanetary craft.
Well, if Coco the language using Gorilla asked, should she be baptized too, by The Pope?
What about a talking ass?
Not at all.
All sergeants are soldiers, but not all soldiers are sergeants.
Is this some sort of joke? Christ was both fully man and fully God. Man = human. And he died for humans.
Now, I suppose if martians were human beings like us, we could treat them sort of like “found” humans as we discovered them in the americas many centuries ago. But the hypothetical is absurd on the face of it. Jesus is about earth, regarding salvation. And baptism is about salvation.
According to above he calls space aliens ‘green humans’,.
Definitely about race and immigration.
Also reminds me of two Lost in Space episodes about that green alien gal following Dr Smith around causing him trouble,
in the first one (in black and white) she ate up all their fuel.
But if there were to be aliens, God is God in their world as well.
A truly bizarre statement. Do they baptize dogs now?
At least they didn’t ask “boxers or briefs?”
Don’t know how that relates, but it sounds good. thanx
The conflation of soul and spirit serves to keep the confusion alive. The soul is not the same as the spirit. It is the spirit which gives spiritual discernment to the behavior mechanism, the soul. If the devil asks for baptism, THEN I could see a controversy. But to move the goalposts the way this absurd question does, well, it makes a mockery of The Grace of God in Christ. If there is no spirit int he soul of aliens, ought we pray that God breathe into them also a spirit of life for the biologically alive soul?
A childrens’ book, is how you back that up?
The Big Question! - Obviously these aliens are very rich to afford interstellar travel. Would the Pope call on the Aliens to redistribute wealth to the poor earthlings?
Obviously wed be talking about human type beings created in Gods image.
Heck, I would baptize an alien if he asked me to!
A childrens book, is how you back that up?
This has no application to someone not of this earth.
Does Francis speak Martian?
Doesn’t that part of the bible just cover earth?
I think we should call Benedict XVI back from retirement.
Don’t speak with such certainty about things like that. It sounds too much like the government officials who wanted to shut down the Patent Office after the Steam Engine was invented, since they thought everything that could be invented already was.
What we DON’T know about space travel is probably enormous compared to what we do know.
And the math for gravitational travel (instantaneous point to point) does exist. Wormholes are more than a theoretical construct.
We just don’t know how to make and control them yet
[But I am biased- I believe Bob Lazaar’s story about the gravitational drives on the alien spacecraft he worked on at Groom Lake (Area 51)]
Well, he is, after all, infallible....
I wish they’d stop repeating parts of his daily homily as something important. It is, but no more than any other priest’s homilies.
I would not automatically assume that the Pope’s words have a political agenda regarding this silly line of questioning. Remember his words are translated into English by journalists
Also, everyone on planet Earth can be baptized into the Catholic church regardless of race or country I assume that you are not insinuating that people of certain races shouldn’t be baptized.
I am in disagreement with Pope Francis’ Socialism, but on other issues, he has a bit of real world about him.
Everything is easier for aliens than for my own kids.