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Rebellion In The USA - Protesters Attempt To Arrest Albuquerque Police Chief
zero hedge ^ | 5/13/14 | Mike Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

Posted on 05/13/2014 9:15:57 PM PDT by Nachum

There is something very, very wrong with the Albuquerque, New Mexico police department, and the citizens have just about had enough. Before I get into the heart of this story, I need to provide you with a little background. The Albuquerque Police Department (APD) is well known for its outrageous and inappropriate use of violence. So much so that it has been under investigation by the Department of Justice, which wrote a letter to the Mayor of Albuquerque on April 10, 2014 condemning the police force. Here’s an excerpt from the letter:

Based on our investigation, we have reasonable cause to believe that APD engages in a pattern or practice of use of excessive force, including deadly force, in violation of the Fourth Amendment and Section 14141. Our investigation included a comprehensive review of APD’s operations and the City’s oversight systems. We have determined that structural and systemic deficiencies—including insufficient oversight, inadequate training, and ineffective policies— contribute to the use of unreasonable force. At the conclusion of this letter, we outline the remedial measures that we believe are necessary to ensure that force is used in accordance with the Constitution. In some instances, these recommendations build on measures and initiatives that are already underway within the department.

Just prior to the release of the letter, APD officers shot in the back and killed a homeless man named James M. Boyd, who was camping in the Albuquerque foothills. More recently (and after the DOJ’s letter was sent), 50-year-old Air Force veteran Armand Martin was killed outside of his home by a SWAT team in a standoff with police. It seems the APD is incapable of solving any sort of dispute without a citizen ending up dead.

It makes you wonder what is up with law enforcement in New Mexico in

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: albuquerque; arrest; donutwatch; protesters; rebellion
Golly, if things get out of hand, they might have to call in some heavily armed federal agents from the Dept. of Agriculture, Bureau of Land Management, or the IRS.

Maybe all three.

1 posted on 05/13/2014 9:15:57 PM PDT by Nachum
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2 posted on 05/13/2014 9:16:25 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Nachum

pollo


3 posted on 05/13/2014 9:21:24 PM PDT by granite (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left - Ecclest 10:2)
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To: Nachum
Or they could escort the whole bunch of them up to the Mesa
where many a problem in Albuquerque has been put to rest.
4 posted on 05/13/2014 9:24:09 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: Nachum

The execution of James Boyd

helmet camera video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X9zXbUQ3b8


5 posted on 05/13/2014 9:26:24 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - Time For A Second Party)
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To: Nachum

“Protesters Attempt To Arrest Albuquerque Police “

And where was the Sheriff during all of this?


6 posted on 05/13/2014 9:27:06 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Nachum
It seems the APD is incapable of solving any sort of dispute without a citizen ending up dead.

As Jack Spirco likes to say, "When your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail".

7 posted on 05/13/2014 9:32:47 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: Nachum

Point well made.


8 posted on 05/13/2014 9:33:38 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Nachum
I recommend everyone study the Stanford Prison Experiment in order to understand what is happening with the police, and with citizens. This is not a situation where the police are protecting society against criminals or hate groups.

The "hate groups" and "terrorists" are being generated by the police as a normal psychological reaction to the overmilitarization of the police. There is nothing the police can do to force citizens into compliance now. They must back down, get rid of these stormtrooper outfits, and change their training to "serve and protect."

9 posted on 05/13/2014 9:35:08 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer

That describes the entire country under King 0bama.


10 posted on 05/13/2014 9:36:58 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: Nachum
...might have to call in some heavily armed federal agents from the Dept. of Agriculture, Bureau of Land Management, or the IRS.

Good thing they had the foresight to create militarized, heavily armed "investigative" branches in those agencies, and purchase them what, a billion bullets in order to keep the little people in line...

11 posted on 05/13/2014 9:38:14 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Nachum

I have been in Albuquerque off and on since 1969 So far not a single policeman has shot and killed me....I realize this is only anecdotal evidence


12 posted on 05/13/2014 9:38:30 PM PDT by woofie
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To: tcrlaf

When the rule of law has been violated against citizens to the point of causing righteous and justified uprisings en masse it won’t matter what the law says when the violators are forcibly removed from office. You inflict lawlessness and tyrrany against citizens long enough and eventually the hangman comes calling. It won’t be pretty.


13 posted on 05/13/2014 9:39:14 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: TigersEye
People are becoming outraged over government and it's agents of government... It's ironic the government talking head demanded order, yet it's government and it's agents who are completely out of order.

They ran out of the meeting. They best hope things don't escalate there and elsewhere, as they will find themselves totally and completely outnumbered by very angry people.

14 posted on 05/13/2014 9:41:42 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Ray76

I followed this since it happened

I can see no justification for shooting this guy
crazy people can be threatening but this guy did not seem that bad


15 posted on 05/13/2014 9:43:48 PM PDT by woofie
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To: Ray76

Wow!! I watched that video and there was no justification for deadly force from what I saw.
Words fail me in describing how disturbing that was.


16 posted on 05/13/2014 9:44:15 PM PDT by Clump ( the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: dragnet2
The councilman kept whining about not being able to do anything with the protest going on. I'd bet my bottom dollar they've been promising to do something for the last 15 meetings and did exactly nothing which is why the people were there protesting.

Exactly where we find ourselves on the national level too.

17 posted on 05/13/2014 9:50:10 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: TigersEye

Very sad, it gets to this point. Lets hope things do not continue to deteriorate.


18 posted on 05/13/2014 9:53:19 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

I hope and pray that it won’t. It would be horrific.


19 posted on 05/13/2014 9:57:17 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: woofie

Yeah, not yet


20 posted on 05/13/2014 10:07:41 PM PDT by Shimmer1
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To: TigersEye
Yep.

Watching this level of angry discourse in a big city is disturbing. The crowd in this meeting weren't' college kids looking for a cause...This crowd appeared as cowboy hat wearing, normal workaday people over 40 or so.

I watched the one video of the one guy they opened up on. Just incredibly brutal. Something you'd expect to occur in a savage war zone.

21 posted on 05/13/2014 10:15:49 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

They don’t understand, “it was all official and legal” they think. I dislike using the word “they” but it’s accurate, every level of government has the people in the cross-hairs. This separation is not good. Cops giving cavity searches on the side of the road, beating to death handicapped people who are prone on the sidewalk, murdering a homeless guy on a desert hillside, the PD of every burgh & ville armed with military equipment, Federal agencies having private SWAT teams, huge ammunition purchases... none of this is healthy. Throw in NSA. Throw in IRS. Throw in compelling purchases (PPACA). “They” will find out they are vastly outnumbered and surrounded by enraged people. “They” need to reevaluate their policies and posture or it will not end well for us generally, and “them” in particular.


22 posted on 05/13/2014 10:15:57 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - Time For A Second Party)
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To: Nachum
The problem is big government, even at the large city level.

The trend over the last century has been consolidation of smaller towns into larger cities and the growth of powerful county governments, putting more and more distance between the local people and their public servants.

In this case, in a small town, the mayor would be asked to throw out the police chief, and if he didn't, the mayor himself would be thrown out.

Not in today's world.

Corruption can go on and on, and as long as a virtually anonymous 51% get their kick backs and pork, etc, nothing happens.

There's a huge opportunity for Republicans to connect with the young over this. The young want control of their communities. They THINK they've got to install progressives and leftists at the federal state and city level to do this. It's a fool's errand.

The young want control of their communities. Republicans need to do something about state and city level "big government".

23 posted on 05/13/2014 10:25:17 PM PDT by freerepublicchat
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To: Ray76

Great points about all the other agencies. All very scary Ray...

I think of what I did when I was young, thinking it was perfectly normal having BB gun fights with all the kids, running through the fields and bamboo lined creeks. It was heaven...freedom. For the record we wore safety glasses when we could find them...lol...Try that nowadays kids...


24 posted on 05/13/2014 10:27:33 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: freerepublicchat

Excellent points re political strategy.


25 posted on 05/13/2014 10:46:26 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - Time For A Second Party)
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To: woofie; Clump
I followed this since it happened

I can see no justification for shooting this guy
crazy people can be threatening but this guy did not seem that bad

If that had been a civilian shooting, there wouldn't even be trial. The shooter's lawyer would welcome a plea bargain down to 20 years instead of the death penalty or life no possibility of parole.

26 posted on 05/14/2014 12:40:41 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: woofie

Obviously, your not a Jose!


27 posted on 05/14/2014 2:45:01 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: Nachum
Based on our investigation, we have reasonable cause to believe that APD engages in a pattern or practice of use of excessive force, including deadly force, in violation of the Fourth Amendment and Section 14141.

If I violated a black persons 4th amendment rights Holder would have me in cuffs.

28 posted on 05/14/2014 2:49:16 AM PDT by GregNH (If you can't fight, please find a good place to hide!)
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To: GregNH

“They must back down, get rid of these stormtrooper outfits, and change their training to “serve and protect.”....

there is some merit to your comments but I would suggest that “backing down”, as you state it may not be the best way to keep a lid on the boiling pot. I do however agree there needs to be a less “military style, storm trooper” police appearance. (It’s done for intimidation)


29 posted on 05/14/2014 4:35:51 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Nachum

So why didn’t Gomer issue a citizens arrest on the guy who did the shooting?


30 posted on 05/14/2014 4:40:06 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: expat1000

As a defense attorney I will agree with that statement.
If a civilian client of mine had done that under the same circumstances they would all be charged with murder and 20 years would be a good outcome.
I didn’t see one damn thing to justify deadly force.
Cops in general have been given such wide immunity combined with all their increasing militarization that it’s a perfect recipe for disaster.
And it’s going to get worse if we don’t do something now.


31 posted on 05/14/2014 11:43:06 AM PDT by Clump ( the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: All

The video of this meeting is worth watching and pretty much depicts the level of anger at government at all levels.


32 posted on 05/15/2014 10:03:21 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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