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Health benefits of wine and chocolate unlikely, new study finds
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Posted on 05/13/2014 9:32:07 PM PDT by chessplayer

A compound found in wine and chocolate may not be linked to improved health as was once claimed, according to a new study.

The compound resveratrol was not associated with less inflammation, cardiovascular disease or cancer or with increased longevity among a group of elderly Italians, researchers found.

Research on resveratrol hit a snag in 2012, when one of the field’s leading researchers was accused of fabricating data.

(Excerpt) Read more at healthdailydigest.com ...


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1 posted on 05/13/2014 9:32:07 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Who cares? I want chocolate.


2 posted on 05/13/2014 9:33:37 PM PDT by stansblugrassgrl (PRAISE THE LORD AND PASS THE AMMUNITION!!! YEEEEEHAW!)
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To: chessplayer

How about a good microbrew and some wings?


3 posted on 05/13/2014 9:34:48 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: Veggie Todd

Beer and skittles, my friend, that’s the secret.


4 posted on 05/13/2014 9:36:24 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: chessplayer
Fat is the new shizzle.

Good ol fat poured over chocolate and washed down with wine ☺

5 posted on 05/13/2014 9:36:30 PM PDT by mylife
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To: dr_lew

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BuYa9f-01w


6 posted on 05/13/2014 9:37:29 PM PDT by mylife
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To: All; chessplayer

I wonder what does reduce inflammation, besides fish oil.

And I wonder what increases it.


7 posted on 05/13/2014 9:37:38 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: dr_lew

Opps...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ipg3XYz7f9Q


8 posted on 05/13/2014 9:38:36 PM PDT by mylife
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To: chessplayer

What happens if you combine them with bacon?


9 posted on 05/13/2014 9:39:31 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: chessplayer

Read recently that chocolate really helps when taking probiotics.


10 posted on 05/13/2014 9:39:58 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Sun

I wonder what does reduce inflammation, besides fish oil.


They’re now denouncing the health benefits of fish oil, too.


11 posted on 05/13/2014 9:40:06 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Hah, you suckers have been suffering your crazy diet fad for nothing!!!

Wait a minute, you’ve been eating chocolate and drinking wine all this time? ....Can I join?


12 posted on 05/13/2014 9:40:19 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: chessplayer

Who paid for the study?


13 posted on 05/13/2014 9:40:30 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dr_lew

14 posted on 05/13/2014 9:41:16 PM PDT by mylife
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To: dfwgator

Mmmmmm Bacon....


15 posted on 05/13/2014 9:42:32 PM PDT by mylife
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To: mylife

Aha! I emerge from the darkness into clear understanding!


16 posted on 05/13/2014 9:44:08 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: chessplayer

People love to hear good news about bad their bad habits. This is not good news.


17 posted on 05/13/2014 9:44:37 PM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: chessplayer

Elvis loved bacon, bananas and honey on a French bread loaf.
Perfect, if garnished with chocolate and dipped in red wine.


18 posted on 05/13/2014 9:45:06 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: dr_lew

Lousy computer.
I clearly pasted the skittle brau link.

I blame Bill Gates and Al Gore for any confusion.


19 posted on 05/13/2014 9:48:02 PM PDT by mylife
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To: latina4dubya

Don’t read this! :-)


20 posted on 05/13/2014 9:48:33 PM PDT by scripter
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To: chessplayer

21 posted on 05/13/2014 9:51:10 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: chessplayer

Do these idiots ever stop with the fear mongering?

If you want a pork chop eat a pork chop.

Life is too short to wring hands.


22 posted on 05/13/2014 9:54:55 PM PDT by mylife
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To: All

if you ever watch cnbc, you can see the enormous pressure ceos are under to increase revenue and increase stock prices. so its difficult for me to see how some people (like my dear old dad) think pharmaceutical cos are searching for cures rather than drugs that will simply sustain you.
with that in mind, I think there is a lot of misinformation put out there and things that are illogical. so the case in point is red wine. the ingredient in red wine, reservatol,comes from the grapes its made from. so why the frig are they always talking about red wine rather than grapes? is it stupidity or something else?


23 posted on 05/13/2014 9:55:30 PM PDT by willywill
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To: tumblindice

I like a good wine and I love chocolate. This article is specious at best. To enjoy something wholesome is beneficial to the soul.


24 posted on 05/13/2014 9:56:38 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: willywill

>> why the frig are they always talking about red wine rather than grapes?

Because a moderate amount of alcohol is apparently good for the heart given no other conflicting abnormalities. A low carb beverage is preferred.


25 posted on 05/13/2014 10:02:04 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: chessplayer

People who control their weight won’t be hurt by moderate amounts of anything, including wine and chocolate. Tubby people should avoid both.


26 posted on 05/13/2014 10:06:55 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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I suppose the diet of chocolate included refined sugars offsetting the cocoa benefits.

How about a trial consisting of single malt and cacao nibs?


27 posted on 05/13/2014 10:06:55 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

Can’t get a decent chocolate malt in this country anymore.


28 posted on 05/13/2014 10:12:34 PM PDT by mylife
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To: mylife

“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed—and thus clamorous to be led to safety—by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.”—H.L. Mencken


29 posted on 05/13/2014 10:18:56 PM PDT by Dr. Pritchett
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To: chessplayer

What about chocolate bacon wine?


30 posted on 05/13/2014 10:19:45 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Dr. Pritchett

Well stated.


31 posted on 05/13/2014 10:22:11 PM PDT by mylife
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To: Dr. Pritchett

The Boston Marathon thing was alarming to me.
“Shelter in place”


32 posted on 05/13/2014 10:23:25 PM PDT by mylife
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To: chessplayer

I’d say the only thing you can eat that will really make a difference is anything containing sufficient amounts of protein. Meats; milk, cheeses, seafood, nuts, beans; that kind of stuff. It’s the only real miracle food.


33 posted on 05/13/2014 10:24:05 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Dr. Pritchett
The only sensible standard concerns whether a person's habits are or are not contributing to good health. If a person is doing well, there seems no need for change.

But, it's very hard to look around and see nothing but good health these days. There are a whole lot of very unhealthy, physically inactive porkers out there and they're doing something wrong. Each of them should try to figure out what needs to be done.

34 posted on 05/13/2014 10:27:52 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: chessplayer

Thank goodness we’ve still got global warming and all the facts about it.


35 posted on 05/13/2014 11:14:04 PM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: Sun
I wonder what does reduce inflammation, besides fish oil.

Curcumin

Ginger

36 posted on 05/13/2014 11:18:40 PM PDT by upsdriver (Palin/West '16)
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To: Rennes Templar

Dark chocolate and red wine are bad habits?


37 posted on 05/13/2014 11:20:59 PM PDT by upsdriver (Palin/West '16)
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To: upsdriver

That will give you gingervitus! ;)


38 posted on 05/13/2014 11:48:34 PM PDT by mylife
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To: Sun

What increases inflammation is rancid seed oils. Safflower and canola. They all are. They need to be avoided but they are in all packaged foods.


39 posted on 05/14/2014 12:02:19 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: stansblugrassgrl; Slings and Arrows

Me too. Chocolate makes me happy, chocolate and kittens.


40 posted on 05/14/2014 12:10:35 AM PDT by Gefn (More cowbell)
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To: dfwgator

Who paid for the study?


Big Pharma? Wouldn’t surprise me.


41 posted on 05/14/2014 12:37:24 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Gefn; stansblugrassgrl

Kittens are essential for cardiac health.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbn75LITtlc


42 posted on 05/14/2014 12:43:43 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: chessplayer
Actually, the big backstory here is the researcher who faked the positive data. This guy was operative for years, had a significant position a the university he was at, pulled in a fair amount of federal grant money, and made the circuit as a hotshot researcher - all on b.s. data. This is so much more common than most would imagine.
43 posted on 05/14/2014 3:25:13 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Gene Eric
It's hard to know what to think. Most everyone has a conflict of interest, including drug makers, supplement promoters, and one’s family doctor. Also these subjects are complicated. It takes time to personally review and evaluate studies.

That said, my blood pressure has recently dropped from the 130s/90s to about 105/72.

I used to have high triglycerides and LDL, but diet and exercise took care of that. But somewhere along the line my BP inched up and stayed up. My Doc is as conventional as it goes and I knew that he would prescribe drugs. I don't want to take drugs, though I appreciate that there are at least two reasonable views on that topic. Vigorous exercise the day of the test is good enough to drive down BP and fool the doc.

I've spent more than a year trying to bring down my BP “naturally.” I gave it the whole kitchen sink. So now, I don't know what is working. One of my most recent changes is to up my dose of vitamin D3, to 6000 IUs a day. Dr. Jonathan Wright argues that if you don't have enough D, more ACE is created, thereby elevating BP.

44 posted on 05/14/2014 5:29:03 AM PDT by ChessExpert (The unemployment rate was 4.5% when Democrats took control of Congress in 2006.)
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To: chessplayer
Health benefits of wine and chocolate unlikely, new study finds

Well, yeah. You need to add beer and bacon!

45 posted on 05/14/2014 5:37:18 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: chessplayer; Gamecock; F15Eagle

Grapefruit is overrated, too. The pulp can put an eye out!


46 posted on 05/14/2014 5:38:20 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: chessplayer

Fear not next month another study will find its all good again. :-)


47 posted on 05/14/2014 7:22:30 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: scripter
Don’t read this! :-)

i do not believe it!!! i love my 88% dark chocolate and my glass of Cab or Shiraz or Old Vine Zin or Malbec... i am still svelte so it must working, right?!!!!

no matter, i am sticking with these high-in-antioxidants indulgences... :)

48 posted on 05/14/2014 8:04:05 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: chessplayer
I'm confident the old studies were correct, and the new studies are wrong......

:-)

49 posted on 05/14/2014 8:06:05 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: mylife

LOL! Yes, I can see how one could easily confuse one with the other. ….I’m holding you responsible for triggering my Sherlock jones!


50 posted on 05/14/2014 8:19:48 AM PDT by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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