Skip to comments.3 ways America should be more like Canada
Posted on 05/14/2014 7:11:52 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue
So for guidance on how to fix America, why not look north to Canada, where the mood is upbeat and life appears to be getting demonstrably better? The New York Times recently reported the Canadian middle class is now the worlds richest, surpassing the U.S. for the first time. In the 2014 better life index recently published by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, Canada outscored the United States in 9 of 11 categories, including education, safety and overall life satisfaction
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1) One of the biggest reasons Canada can afford it's $hitty national health plan is because it doesn't have to pay for a national defense. We do that for them. And yes, there health care is garbage. If you're sick, seriously sick, you get help fast. But try sitting for 12 hours on a weekend with a screaming infant on your lap, in a French only speaking ER because your child has an ear infection and your Dr. is nowhere to be found.
2) Immigration? Last time I checked, there wasn't much problem of illegal immigrants sneaking into Canada from the US. What issues do they have there?
3) "With far fewer lending excesses, Canada didnt really have a housing bust or a credit crisis to recover from."
Are they kidding? I don't think the real estate market in Canada even lends itself to the type of crappy loans our government forced Fannie and Freddie to make in pursuit of the American Dream. Most of the real estate markets in Canada are set near major economic hubs so that people who own homes, actually have the jobs they need to pay for them. Duh...
What a load!
Everything you need to know about Canada:
It’s north of North Dakota.
Let’s all ask Mark Steyn about Freedom of Speech in Canada. There is NO SUCH THING! You are arrested and severely fined for speaking simple truths.
Basically, we need something like the USA right on our borders.
I would trade Obama for Stephen Harper in a heartbeat.
How is it any different here?
Well, there is that.
Heck, I’d trade Obama for my town’s mayor.
You put thought into that Tangled... great list. Thanks for sharing.
Agree with you....What a barf inducing bit of crapola.
Yes, this is the one thing we can say. When Obama was elected, I said I never thought I’d see the day when Canada’s PM was to the right of the US President. But there you have it.
“””3 ways America should be more like Canada”””
1. More of that Maple Syrup.
2. Excellent big game hunting.
3. Much cooler climate. (ridiculous heat/humidity in the
That’s about it.
I like Harper a lot.....And he does have to work within a lot of constraints imposed by previous Liberal governments, but he is a good man....Can’t say that about many national leaders these days.
Thanks. I have quite a few friends in Canada and none of them have ever extolled the reasons listed in this article as reasons why Canada is great. In fact, some don’t think it is great. (like the guy who chose to come to NY state to get a tonsilectomy because the “fast track” appointment their National Health set for them was 6 months down the road and his daughter could barely swallow.)
This notion that the US is garbage really gets my hackles up. Yes, Obama AND Congress blow. Yes, we have our problems. But if you travel out of the country - and I am fortunate enough to have done so - you will quickly realize how GREAT the US is. I have friends in the Military - been to some amazing places - all say the same exact thing.
/rant (which was not, in any way, directed at you.) Whew....I feel (a little) better.
--you go to the States!
The Mexicans don't want to learn French, so they stay here...
The money quote:
"In Canada, the banking system was not used as a means of channeling subsidized credit to a favored political constituency, so there was no need to tolerate instability."
Hmmmm. How to engage that in PC talk?
Redlined neighborhoods were redlined for a reason, and it was not racial, even if those demographics coincided.
Had the Government not forced the banks to make loans in those areas, there would have been far less need for any bailouts.
“Lets all ask Mark Steyn about Freedom of Speech in Canada. There is NO SUCH THING! You are arrested and severely fined for speaking simple truths.”
Those truths you speak of are actually anything non-Politically Correct.
You can speak out and voice opinions against conservatives, Christians, white people, etc.
Just don’t voice opinions against minorities, gays, muslims, etc. That would be Hate Speech©.
The measure of a man is what he does with power.
Who wouldn't you trade for Obama?
Give me a few minutes, I'll think of something.
Vermont has maple syrup and so does New Hampshire. You can cross of #1 :)
No fair picking Idi Amin or Pol Pot. The trade has to be for someone actually alive.
Man, you’re making this real hard, aren’t you?
1. One of the biggest reasons Canada can afford its national health plan is that it doesn't provide very much health care at all (in comparison to the U.S.). It's easier to get a CAT scan for your pet than for yourself, for example. If that's fine by them, that's fine by me.
2. There's a remarkable reason why Canada's military expenditures is so low, and this is something that ought to resonate with conservatives here in the U.S.: Canada's federal government has very little power. Amazing at it may seem, Canada actually functions today a lot like the U.S. probably would have ended up if the Confederacy had won the Civil War. Most of the political power is vested in the provincial governments (the provinces run their own health care systems, for example), and for most Canadians, Ottawa is just a nice city on the banks of the Ottawa River with lots of British architecture.
3. The point about the housing bubble is right on. Canada has strict lending standards and a very heavily regulated banking system. Canada also doesn't have the mortgage interest tax deduction, which means homeowners aren't given a major tax incentive to borrow as much money as possible against their homes.
In Canada as I understand it mortgages must be re done every 5 years!!! I lived in Canada for 3 years...don’t get me started
And Canada doesn’t exactly have nearly as many of the “Gibsmedat” crowd as here in the US.
True, but they have more than you might think. Up there, the “gibsmedat” crowd consists mainly of aboriginal tribes. And the folks in Quebec aren’t full-fledged welfare cases, but they are willing to accept a heavy dose of Marxism to prop up their standard of living.
That’s another good point. There’s no such thing as a 30-year fixed-rate mortgage in Canada. Between that and the lack of tax deductibility for mortgage interest, Canadian homeowners have a very strong incentive to pay off their mortgages as quickly as possible.
Well at least they won’t physically attack you.
I would trade Obama for 17 trillion dollars—oops, already been done.
That’s because most tribal reservations are in areas of Canada where citizens are more likely to own firearms.
Your point 1 is very well taken. When I want to piss off my Canadian friends I tell them of the time I hurt my knee playing hockey.
1) Made appointment at 5PM for the next morning, 8AM.
2) Got examined by an Orthopedist - the Dr. for the NY Jets no less - and also got an X-Ray and MRI done, THAT DAY.
3) Was back at work by 11AM.
That pretty much sends them over the edge. :)
You are confusing illegal immigration with legal immigration. Canada has a far superior system of legal immigration. Unfortunately, the author conflates the US guest worker programs with permanent legal immigration. Here is what he said:
But the whole issue of immigration is far less politicized, and theres a broad understanding that skilled foreign workers help the economy. Canada actually recruits immigrants, part of a deliberate effort to attract talented foreigners most likely to contribute to economic growth. In the United States, the quota for skilled immigrants is far below the number U.S. firms would hire if they could get them. Despite appeals from many businesses, Congress is paralyzed on reforms that would let more skilled immigrants in, partly because that issue gets conflated with separate reforms aimed at stemming the flow of unskilled illegals.
Canada has a merit based system for permanent legal immigration. We have a kinship system for the 1.1 million legal permanent immigrants who enter annually. An estimated 12% of legal immigrants are merit based--the rest is based on sponsorship from family members, i.e, chain migration. 20% of legal permanent immigrants lack even a high school degree. 87% of them are minorities as classified by the USG.
We bring in 650,000 guest workers a year on temporary work visas. We would not need most guest worker programs if we went to a merit based immigration system.
The vast majority of US legal immigrants come from the Third World. They are changing this country demographically and electorally. Immigrants and minorities vote more than two to one Democrat. In 1970 one in 21 in this country was foreign born; today it is one in 8, the highest in 90 years; and within a decade it will be one in 7, the highest in our history. Since 1990 over 25 million legal immigrants have entered the US during the two highest decades of immigration in US history.
The current breakdown in Canada is
1.2% Latin American
To all- please ping me to Canadian topics.
I do enjoy being in Canada when I am there, and it has a lot to commend it. But Canada does not have many of the problems the US has. The ethnic make-up is not as varied. The population is much smaller. On the other hand, the taxes are high (something the lib writer I am sure approves of) and everything - and I mean everything - is more expensive.
Actually, I’m well south of ND. The latitude here is the same as southern Oregon. Crossing the border into Detroit means going northwest.
Yes and they forgot to mention that Canada only has about a 39 million population so its a little easier to administer a national health program.
They don’t have 20 million illegal unskilled Mexicans sucking off the welfare system and clogging the schools with their kids while they pay no taxes to help support it.
I especially love the part of the article where the guy says the US probably won’t be adopting a Parliamentary style of govt anytime soon. Duh. We have a little thing called the Constitution to abide by.
I have to say though that the guy is right about Canadian debt. They also handle their banking system better.
from the article:
Theres less hostility toward immigrants. Canada, like the United States, has limits on the number of foreigners it allows into the country to work. But the whole issue of immigration is far less politicized, and theres a broad understanding that skilled foreign workers help the economy.
Canada actually recruits immigrants, part of a deliberate effort to attract talented foreigners most likely to contribute to economic growth. In the United States, the quota for skilled immigrants is far below the number U.S. firms would hire if they could get them. Despite appeals from many businesses,
Congress is paralyzed on reforms that would let more skilled immigrants in, partly because that issue gets conflated with separate reforms aimed at stemming the flow of unskilled illegals.
Canada has mostly disavowed the black ghetto culture.
4. Get Rid of Justin Bieber.
I think Robert Mugabe is still alive and the clown who succeeded the dead guy in Venezuela too.
Hmmmmm. Didn’t Mugabe make everyone in Zimbabwe a multimillionaire?
We have about 45 million foreign born in the US, which is bigger than the entire population of Canada.
2.9% Black “
I think if you flip Asian and Black, you pretty much get the USA numbers. And if you look at the all black areas of the USA vs. the all asian areas of Canada, you might see the reason Canada does better.
I think Mugabe made every one a multi quadrillionaire.
I’m afraid though our black ghetto culture has spread around the Globe, I was shocked how much of it I saw in Europe.