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Ukraine Crisis: UN-Marked Combat Helicopters Used in Government Offensive Against Separatists
International Business Times ^ | 5/14/2014 | Jack Moore

Posted on 05/14/2014 7:26:42 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

Footage has emerged of a white Mil Mi-24 helicopter allegedly being used in Ukraine's antiterror operation against pro-Russian separatists near the Donetsk Oblast city of Kramatorsk.

Three further combat Mi-24 helicopters and one transport Mi-8 helicopter bearing the UN logo were spotted in the region by the Russian news outlet Life News.

The UN has distanced itself from the footage below [video at URL], stating that, as Ukraine is a contributor to the organisation's forces, it must remove any UN insignia when the materials are returned.

A spokesperson for UN Secretary-General Ban-Ki Moon said that any use of peacekeeping equipment, bearing the name of the UN, for non-peacekeeping purposes would contravene UN rules.

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(Excerpt) Read more at ibtimes.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: antirino; bankimoon; donetsk; dontell; kiev; kramatorsk; lavror; lavrov; norinosatfr; obama; putin; putinsbuttboys; rinofreefreerepublic; scandals; separatists; surrendermonkeys; ukraine; un; unitednations
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How dare UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon say what he did...he must surely be Pro-Putin! And Putin, he must have taken over the UN, as now even the UN bows to his wishes...bunch of Putinistas. /s.
1 posted on 05/14/2014 7:26:42 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; All

Video at link.


2 posted on 05/14/2014 7:30:54 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

What a freakin mess.


3 posted on 05/14/2014 7:32:59 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: cripplecreek

Obama sure knows how to pick ‘em.


4 posted on 05/14/2014 7:34:33 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I’m starting to wonder if these folks are smart enough to have their own country.


5 posted on 05/14/2014 7:34:50 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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6 posted on 05/14/2014 7:35:34 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Mariner
I’m starting to wonder if these folks are smart enough to have their own country.

The same could be said for the US at this point.

7 posted on 05/14/2014 7:38:45 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Mariner

Ah......you hit the nail on the head.


8 posted on 05/14/2014 7:40:47 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Mariner

As a side note, for some reason I can’t see exhaust coolers and IR-jammers on these aircraft. As a former-Soviet military they should have non-monkey model versions. How would they dare to fly it knowing that rebels has manpads?


9 posted on 05/14/2014 7:46:22 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: TADSLOS

Except we’re smart enough to wait for an election rather than overturn the government illegally.


10 posted on 05/14/2014 7:46:53 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

What exactly is a Nazi “anti terrorist operation” suppposed to be???


11 posted on 05/14/2014 7:46:57 AM PDT by varmintman (It must really suck to be a Nazi in Kiev these days...)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The Ukraine “military” is such a patchwork of junk from US, UN, and Russia that they probably have a helicopter marked “LAPD”


12 posted on 05/14/2014 7:49:13 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Sacajaweau

“.......overturn the government illegally”
Which is exactly what we should be doing.


13 posted on 05/14/2014 7:50:44 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: demshateGod; tcrlaf

What are the odds that well see equipment with the name “Soros” on the side? /s.

Question: Maybe we’ll see “NGO,” etc on the sides of some equipment?


14 posted on 05/14/2014 7:53:19 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Sacajaweau

And that is what should happen: legal elections (although, unfortunately, it doesn’t always happen in other countries).

EuroMaidan did not handle things well.

And while Yanukovich was hardly a leader that exhibited tender mercies in even the slightest extent, and was a leader that could easily be called a “Mubarak” type person, the WH said that it would not recognize the ouster of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt because they said it was a coup.

But what did Obama do when Yanukovich was ran out of town?

Right after he was run out, in February, the new leaders said that they were going to have a quick election: May 25th.

Why didn’t they just wait until then back in February?


15 posted on 05/14/2014 8:02:03 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
near the Donetsk Oblast city of Kramatorsk.

Which even Ukrainian territory anymore. Could be declared a foreign invasion force.

16 posted on 05/14/2014 8:02:34 AM PDT by McGruff (#BringBackOurJobs)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I cant watch the video at the moment, but might be worth taking it with a grain of salt. The Russian media also had photographs of American looking mercenaries, but it was actually just an AP photo.of cops in New Orleans. The Russkies even erased the Wendy’s sign from the original photo.


17 posted on 05/14/2014 8:03:31 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Mariner

Actually they were more or less holding things together till a half dozen outside manipulators started stirring things up.

Taking a modern country and turning it into Afghanistan.


18 posted on 05/14/2014 8:03:41 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; dfwgator; McGruff; little jeremiah

Check this article out.


19 posted on 05/14/2014 8:07:00 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
“How dare UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon say what he did”

That they should put some fresh paint on helicopters ? They sure should do that.

20 posted on 05/14/2014 8:09:43 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; Admin Moderator

I will place this in the “frontpage” section, as did Tailgunner Joe with his “Cruz to visit Ukraine” article.

I imagine that if his can put his article there, then this article belongs there (and can go there too), and that you won’t have a problem with it.

Thanks!


21 posted on 05/14/2014 8:11:10 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Helicopter May Land Ukraine's Military in Hot Water With U.N.

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By Alexander Smith

The United Nations expressed concern Wednesday over footage purporting to show Ukrainian troops using a helicopter painted with the organization's colors and insignia.

Russian news website Life News reported that three U.N.-painted Mil Mi-24 combat helicopters and one Mi-8 transport helicopter had been spotted assisting government troops in eastern Ukraine. The footage could not be independently verified by NBC News.

LIfe News is officially independent but reportedly has ties to Russian security services. It posted a video of one of the Mil Mi-24 helicopters and the raw footage was posted to YouTube by the Russian state-run broadcaster Russia Today.


22 posted on 05/14/2014 8:11:35 AM PDT by McGruff (#BringBackOurJobs)
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To: Grzegorz 246

Ban-Ki Moon: “You idiots... Next time put some fresh paint on the helicopters and paint over the words “UN.” LOL.


23 posted on 05/14/2014 8:12:49 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

And remember the Obama-NewYorkTimes eating crow over those pics of Russian soldiers supposedly being in Ukraine?

Remember the retraction piece issued by the O-NYT?


24 posted on 05/14/2014 8:15:13 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Or else I will call in the homo, LOL !


25 posted on 05/14/2014 8:15:24 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246
When the UN indicates they are separating themselves form this, and calling it out, I still wonder: should we trust the UN, or Ban Ki-Moon, when they act like “we had no idea” or something to that effect?
26 posted on 05/14/2014 8:22:09 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Does the puppet regime in Kiev have any comment or would asking them about it offend western liberal sensibilities?


27 posted on 05/14/2014 8:30:22 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
UN Secretary-General Ban-Ki Moon

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28 posted on 05/14/2014 8:30:24 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Europe created this mess with the Ukraine and they are determined to keep pushing Russia until they start another World War.


29 posted on 05/14/2014 8:33:37 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Malaysia Flight MH370 Black Box signals reported in Bermuda Triangle)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; cripplecreek; Mariner; wetphoenix; Sacajaweau; McGruff; mac_truck; ...
NBC News is now reporting on this. Going mainstream...

They have an on-line news piece about this: 40 minutes ago.

Go to Google News. Use the keywords “UN helicopters Ukraine”

Click on the “sort by date/relevance” option and choose “sort by date” if you have to, to find it. It's there.

30 posted on 05/14/2014 8:36:36 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Here's one of the three helicopters used by Kiev Army .....it's been said the UN symbols were put on these helicopters....this one was filmed on a citizens farm, you can see the roof top of one of the animal buildings/shed..family saw Kiev Gov. army members in and around it. There is a video of the family members standing behind buildings watching this landing...and the movememts of the troops.


31 posted on 05/14/2014 8:45:57 AM PDT by caww
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To: Mariner
Well they sure are getting plenty of us help to run their country....and who they're sending there leaves a whole lot to be desired....

I'll post on another thread photos of Obama’s new boy just three months on the job after leaving his position as Times editor in chief.... speaking to “Future Leaders of Ukraine’....also at the college and to the media staff in Ukraine.

What the US is doing with the people there is sinful IMO...they are more of Obama’s inexperienced people with a history of elitism and corruption...don't know what they are doing and have no experience so it's no wonder things are as they are....but they have lots of experience ripping people off..which I'll show later in this mans history.

32 posted on 05/14/2014 8:52:27 AM PDT by caww
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

the mask is slipping -

the UN Agenda21 NWO crew = “UN, EU & NATO” -

encroaching on previous Russian countries on Russia’s borders - with intent to impose the EU - and the NWO - New World Order’ on them. The Agenda 21 cabal is intent on ruling the world - and has it’s hooks into our country - even our small towns, already - under other, innocuous sounding names. Living under Agenda 21 would be the worst conditions in the history of civilization. Wake up, Sheeple. Do your research - stop just swallowing, second hand, whatever the media puts out - after being handed it by the WH)

The Russian people who live there do not WANT to be part of the crumbling/corrupt EU - They’ve asked Putin for help.

This has been in the works for some years. And guess who the principle instigator is?

http://russialist.org/ria-novosti-secret-cable-reveals-russia-warned-us-in-2008-meddling-in-ukraine-could-split-country/#.U3LpdsSaUZY.twitter

There’s also this

http://en.ria.ru/world/20140512/189764704/Scottish-Officials-Condemn-Wests-Support-for-Neo-Nazis-in.html


33 posted on 05/14/2014 8:53:12 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: maine-iac7
Van Rompuy: If The Public Doesn't Want EU Expansion, 'We Do It Anyway'

Well gee, who wouldn't want that kind of leadership.
34 posted on 05/14/2014 9:03:16 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Sacajaweau; All
Except we’re smart enough to wait for an election rather than overturn the government illegally.

Did you forget the 'sarq"?

Think on this scenario: We take back the Senate and increase in the congress come Nov election.

Now, 'The Won" and his minions have two years of impotence, Constitutionally, for pushing forth it's agenda of destroying this country and ruling forever.

What to do?

Socialists/Marxists/Narcissists don't care about no stinking laws. All it takes is a nice little wag-the-dog incident - declare Martial Law - and the Congress and everyone else is persona-non-Grata for 6 months. They rule like the dictators they feel they have the right to be. After 6 months of take over, there's no one left strong enough to fight back - they continue to rule. (DO you REALLY think they'll let a little thing like a change of leadership stop them?)

King forever.

35 posted on 05/14/2014 9:03:46 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: Iron Munro

.....(”Europe created this mess with the Ukraine and they are determined to keep pushing Russia until they start another World War”).....

Well actually it looks morelike the US wants a war to further ‘seperate Russia from Europe’. They can’t afford to see the relationship Putin was building with Europe continuing with the debt we carry. Nor could Obama continue to watch Putin knock him off his self made pedastal as a world leader, which he did when he handled the Syria.

If Putin really wanted Ukraine he would have gone in there by now....especially knowing the Kiev military capability was all but nothing. He could have taken it any time, even before the protests.

Yes, the EU/US overreached by going into Ukraine with Maidan Protest and installing their puppet gov.....but going after Ukraine..and Georgia too has been the Eu/Nato/US push for the past 5 yrs. This just didn’t suddenly happen because of Maidan Protest.....it was planned and orchestrated 5 yrs out...and the USA is the primary mover in this now via undergirding the Kiev Gov. who cannot move without the US dictating how and when.

Kiev is forced to use mercenaries and the bad guys hired out because it’s army and police are not willing to shoot their own people.....and they have steadily had to increase their usage as things got worse.


36 posted on 05/14/2014 9:10:39 AM PDT by caww
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To: cripplecreek; All

WHOA!

Thank you for that link.

This is what I have been saying for weeks on end - and been ridiculed for it.

Agenda 21 - do YouTube search on it - anyone’s whose head has been stuck up dark places for the last few years - and LEARN.

And AGENDA 21 - think it won’t touch YOU? It’s running rampant across this country - under innocent sounding names, like “Sustainable Communities” and all the EPA takeover ‘regulations” - and just what do you think the accelerated push by the BLM, confiscating more lands throughout the western states now - is about?

It’s in OUR back yard too -

Papa Bush explains the AGENDA - under the UN - and now O’bummer’s regime is on Agenda 21 steroids

If you can listen to this and not feel the hackles on your neck rise - check your pulse. You’re either with them or dead.

When JFK learned of this ‘agenda’, he vowed to stop them. He made a speech so vowing - It got him killed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdUsJHeVXiE


37 posted on 05/14/2014 9:31:40 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: McGruff

UN’s response to this is basically..”You can’t do that”...end of story.


38 posted on 05/14/2014 9:37:54 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww; All
Whole ball of Wax - great summation.

Nice to know some FR’s are informed - not just knee-jerking the mantra “Putin = KGB = thug = wants to rule world+ .

http://russialist.org/ria-novosti-secret-cable-reveals-russia-warned-us-in-2008-meddling-in-ukraine-could-split-country/#.U3LpdsSaUZY.twitter

39 posted on 05/14/2014 9:38:12 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

All you Putinists are cultists on this matter. The NYT blog only questioned the photo with the bearded man, and it wasnt doctored. They said it was too blurry. The rest had no such issues.


40 posted on 05/14/2014 9:40:48 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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41 posted on 05/14/2014 9:46:01 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Pools that get the opposite of planned response - oops - forgedda about it -

http://en.ria.ru/world/20140513/189790190/German-N-TV-Phone-Poll-Shows-89-Back-Putins-Ukraine-Policy.html


42 posted on 05/14/2014 9:50:49 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: maine-iac7

Unfortunately the old cold war horses have difficulty grasping the realities of how the world works today. They still see Russia as the USSR. ...and can’t get away from that mindset.

It pays well to see what the Atlantic Council is doing as well......they are now moving toward Moldova...three day visit by Pres. of the Council.....so there’r far more going on in Putin’s area of influence then most realize....if they knew they would see things differently perhaps.

I am not a Putin fan by any means...but I certainly respect and understand why he is doing what he is...we’d do the same if Russia had their Political Leadership prancing around in Canada or Mexico trying to display their leadership and install their own puppet Gov. (IE: Cuban Missle Crisis)

I did see that article...and there are other sources which also revealed this long in the works for Ukraine....amazinging Eu?US ignored Putins warnings time and time again...so here we are in the thick of it all!

BTW The US Foreign Policy is what is driving Europe’s actions and re-actions.....since we’re protecting their countries they have no choice but to deliver as this administration determines.


43 posted on 05/14/2014 9:52:37 AM PDT by caww
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To: musicman
That photo should remind us all that war and conflict as that in Ukraine now...costs the life of many...has..and always will....leaving a trail of sons and daughters without parents behind them for all sides.....thanks for posting it.


44 posted on 05/14/2014 10:02:35 AM PDT by caww
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To: maine-iac7
When JFK learned of this ‘agenda’, he vowed to stop them. He made a speech so vowing - It got him killed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdUsJHeVXiE

This is a speech before the American Newspaper Publishers Association at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel in New York City. It happened on April 27, 1961. The "secret society" or in JFK's words, the "monolithic and ruthless conspiracy", is the Soviet Union and the speech discusses that threat.

Read the entire speech here.

Yes, it's all an internet hoax.

45 posted on 05/14/2014 11:11:01 AM PDT by No One Special
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To: caww

(You are welcome!)


46 posted on 05/14/2014 12:16:05 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
No, the NYT “retraction” said that the NYT did not check their facts before running with the “Russian soldiers (supposed “Green Men” are in Ukraine) pictures/story handed to them.

All you RINO’s and Obama-bailout artists (must protect Obama at all costs!) are cultists. Give up endless interventionism.

47 posted on 05/15/2014 7:23:30 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: maine-iac7

No, no, no, Greetings Puny Humans is an either/or thinker. He cannot think Neither/Nor.

So, he thinks we can be either against Putin or be Putin cultists. With RINOs here at FR there is NO middle ground. They cannot think about, nor fathom a policy of “stay out of this.”

That is the middle ground that we as a nation have to take sometimes: Neither interventionist, Nor isolationist requires that sometimes we just go down the middle and stay out of it.


48 posted on 05/15/2014 7:29:14 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: caww

Sad to see the RINOs on here being incapable of being neither isolationist nor interventionist, which Reagan was, and which the Founding Fathers were.

Reagan knew that sometimes you intervene, and sometimes you don’t This is a case where we should not have Us aid, arming them, no NGO’s. We should stay out of this, IMHO.


49 posted on 05/15/2014 7:31:55 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Youre free to post the link and quote the relevant portion which asserts, as you do, that they uncritically reported on the presence of Russian troops in Ukraine, as opposed to the photos of that one fellow with the beard (who since then has had a bullet put to his head, actually).


50 posted on 05/15/2014 9:11:00 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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