Skip to comments.In Ukraine, the US is dragging us towards war with Russia
Posted on 05/14/2014 10:49:48 AM PDT by wetphoenix
Washington's role in Ukraine, and its backing for the regime's neo-Nazis, has huge implications for the rest of the world.
Why do we tolerate the threat of another world war in our name? Why do we allow lies that justify this risk? The scale of our indoctrination, wrote Harold Pinter, is a "brilliant, even witty, highly successful act of hypnosis", as if the truth "never happened even while it was happening".
Every year the American historian William Blum publishes his "updated summary of the record of US foreign policy" which shows that, since 1945, the US has tried to overthrow more than 50 governments, many of them democratically elected; grossly interfered in elections in 30 countries; bombed the civilian populations of 30 countries; used chemical and biological weapons; and attempted to assassinate foreign leaders.
In many cases Britain has been a collaborator. The degree of human suffering, let alone criminality, is little acknowledged in the west, despite the presence of the world's most advanced communications and nominally most free journalism. That the most numerous victims of terrorism "our" terrorism are Muslims, is unsayable. That extreme jihadism, which led to 9/11, was nurtured as a weapon of Anglo-American policy (Operation Cyclone in Afghanistan) is suppressed. In April the US state department noted that, following Nato's campaign in 2011, "Libya has become a terrorist safe haven".
(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...
Never mind that over that period of time nobody else lifted a finger to help stave off problems around the planet. So while they all sat on their hands, we did the heavy lifting.
Now they carp.
Yes, well, it looks as if the planet will get to see what natural selection provides once the Great Satan (the U.S.) withdraws from being the world’s police agency.
You live in Russia don’t you?
You only signed up recently to represent and present, Russian propaganda in regards to this Russian operation, it seems.
Give The Guardian high marks for consistencey. This is the same article they wrote about Bush and Iraq with “Obama” substituted for “Bush.” It would be nice to hear how US Libs explain how it is that the British Left sees Obama as a bloodthirsty warmonger just like Bush.
Since when The Guardian is a Russian propaganda?
Earth to Guardiandorks...did you not think electing this mega cretin was a good thing for the U.S.?
After all, he had such great accomplishments...such as...er....uh.....ummmmm.....
Face it, losers, we picked a walking anus, you liked him, and we’re all suffering the consequences.
I described you, not the Guardian.
In fact it seems to me like your response at posting this article.
In fact, outside of your work for Russian propaganda, you don’t seem to have any reason for having joined FR, or any interest in it.
There was a report that you people existed and were working the internet and forums, you seem evidence of that.
In fact I have interest. What exactly do you want to discuss?
Too bad your sign up and posting history, shows the truth of the matter.
There is no more obvious propagandist on FR, than yourself.
In your case it is unique, because it involves selling the interests of a foreign government.
So, you don’t want to talk to me?
At least you are comfortable in your work.
You are so fast jumping to a conclusions.
I guess the main reason why you dislike me is that some people think that only their opinion is correct and anyone who disagree has to shut up or die.
Yet they think they are pro-freedom and conservative.
To me, their major problem is that they won’t see a real tyranny facing them a few inches ahead.
Can we compromise on a Blame Washington DC First committee? Those clowns there are the ones calling the shots. That sess pool isn't "America" and none of them have spoken for me in decades. That's who I blame.
Actually, I spotted you pretty early as a professional, who signed up here to work the forum.
We are NATO, if NATO has to fight Russia, Russian won’t fair well.
You are dead wrong, ansel12. If I was a professional you wouldn’t ‘spot’ me.
~We are NATO, if NATO has to fight Russia, Russian wont fair well.~
Why won’t you grab a rifle, pick Juan McCain for air support and go there?
I’ve done my part as part of the NATO forces defending against your side.
Will you be grabbing a rifle against NATO?
I would grab my rifle against anyone who dare to hurt me badly. I don’t see NATO a threat like this right now.
No one is out to hurt you, are you already a veteran of the Russian or Soviet military?
~No one is out to hurt you~
Good, I hope so.
~are you already a veteran of the Russian or Soviet military?~
Am I under interrogation? I know how to use a gun if it is what you ask me. It doesn’t mean I’m going to shoot you.
What do you mean if that is what I asked you, you know what I asked you.
“are you already a veteran of the Russian or Soviet military?”
Are you in right now?
I’m not in.
Interesting, did you serve in the Soviet military, or after that evil and wicked empire was brought down?
Don’t you think you are ‘slightly’ off-topic?
Not at all, your service to the Soviet Empire is relevant, your service to the Russian military is relevant.
I’m too young to be a Cold Warrior and I don’t remember much from before the Wall fell. Nothing which is worth a bit for sure.
Also I was hanging around Americans a lot as a teen and I have an idea about classic values. That is a primary reason why I’m interested in conservatism and this website.
So your military service was post Soviet, if you were seeing American tourists, then you must be from one of the major cities, your English is very good, did you learn that while working in the Russian military, or government?
Why tourists? There are a number of professors, priests, businessmen and military from UK and US in Russia. As for English I’ve learnt it in a public school.
What did your dad do that as a teen you were hanging out with UK and American professors and military, Priests, and businessmen?
He was a construction engineer, designing industrial buildings. Does it really matter?:-)
Just curious of what the conditions were, and in what city, since you say you weren't speaking of tourists, and instead meant to say that as a teen you were hanging out with UK and American military and Priests, and Professors, and businessmen.
There is some misunderstanding I think.
Back when US consulates has run a lot of programs around Russia. These people were visiting schools, colleges. If you liked it you could go to consulate proper for their classes, seminars etc.
It was a long time ago. I wouldn’t recomend one to visit US consulate now. At the time they taught about God, rule of law, checks and ballances, free enterprise etc.
Today, they would probably push for muslim outreach, abortion and gay pride.
Which Russian president(s) was your military service under, did you do Army, or Navy, or what?
Enough, ansel:) Have a nice day!
Seriously, that is your cut off point, letting us know who was the Russian president during your military service?
No one hides that.
Who was a president when you served?:) I guess you can legally tell me your full name, rank and regiment too, ansel.
I have never seen anyone hesitate to mention who was president(s) when they served, there is nothing personal at all about it.
And then circled that tree. And then circled that tree. And then... ad infinitum.
I don’t know why are you so sure that I’m a vet to start with. I also answered a lot of your questions and yours none of mine.
One thing that you have made clear, is that you served, you have made it clear of when you did not serve, and that you are not now serving, but you have made it clear that you have served.
You just froze at saying who you served under, of the post empire leaders.
You're catching on...