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Women spurning the pill for non-religious reasons
QMI Agency Vancouver ^ | May 13, 2014 | Ada Slivinski

Posted on 05/14/2014 2:25:09 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o

Natural family planning is gaining support with some women because of health concerns about hormonal birth control. (FOTOLIA)

"Women start to realize if I’m eating organic and I’m drinking out of glass, and I’m making all these efforts in every other aspect of my life, why would I manage my fertility with a carcinogen?" — Karen Murphy Corr, Serena BC

Natural family planning is gaining popularity with those who have no religious reasons for abstaining from hormonal birth control.

“I would say that there is a shift of people using NFP for reasons other than faith,” said Kristen Gilbert, director of education at Options for Sexual Health.

As the only birth control method permitted by the Catholic Church and some other Christian denominations, NFP is often confused with the rhythm method.

“It is a scientific method, it’s not the rhythm method or the calendar method — it works,” said Karen Murphy Corr, provincial coordinator at Serena BC, which offers NFP services.

There are many different NFP methods, but they all revolve around tracking one or more of the following — basal body temperature, cervical mucus and position of the cervix. These are all signs of the hormonal changes that occur throughout a women’s menstrual cycle. Couples then record this information on a chart or a smartphone app and abstain from sex entirely or use a barrier form of birth control during the women’s fertile phase.

There are still many misconceptions about NFP, Murphy Corr said, and that’s part of the reason women interested in the method are often steered away from it by medical professionals.

The safety of hormonal birth control has been called into question following 24 recent deaths with possible links to the Yaz and Yasmin pills.

Studying the pill’s side effects is something that led Holly Grigg-Spall, author of Sweetening the Pill, to advocate for alternate forms of birth control.

"Sex-positive advocates should be the biggest fans of fertility awareness methods,” she wrote in a recent blog post.

In addition to preventing unplanned pregnancies, experts say NFP allows women to learn more about their bodies and it improves communication between couples.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: death; hormone; yasmine; yaz
I decided not to put anything in my body I wouldn't put in my compost pile.
1 posted on 05/14/2014 2:25:09 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I’ve known women who were very irregular in their cycles, and this resulted in them having some significant elevated problems from time to time. The pill brought that under control for them. I would have to support that therapy, if it worked successfully. In many cases, it does.

That’s not to say that women who don’t have this problem would be better off if they were on the pill. Different strokes for different folks.

Like you, I don’t like taking anything I don’t have to, and if I was a woman I would try to use that same philosophy.


2 posted on 05/14/2014 2:33:34 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I was put on the pill at 16 because my periods were ridiculously out of cycle. I could go 60 days without one. When I tried to get pregnant I found out I have PCOS. As it turns out, the pill did not cure my problems it only eliminated the symptoms. The root of the problem remained. I will never go back on it. I know now about its abortifacient issues, plus I don’t think that it’s healthy.


3 posted on 05/14/2014 2:34:49 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
"Women start to realize if I’m eating organic and I’m drinking out of glass, and I’m making all these efforts in every other aspect of my life, why would I manage my fertility with a carcinogen?"

Wonderful words. The teachings of the Church on human sexuality are right on so many levels.

4 posted on 05/14/2014 2:40:11 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: DoughtyOne

Irregular cycles aren’t caused by a lack of birth control pills. They’re caused by something else. Far better to determine that cause and fix it than cover up the symptoms of that with the birth control pill.

I know several women put on the pill to ‘fix’ their PCOS. It nothing of the kind. It masked it long enough for them to develop raging t2d in their early 30’s. Had they actually worked to solve the problem (lower carb diet, insulin sensitizers, etc) they could have had regular cycles, normal fertility and avoided the t2d.

Just sayin’.


5 posted on 05/14/2014 2:42:37 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: DoughtyOne; goodwithagun
Yes, the problem is that the Pill does not produce natural cycles (a whole, normal physiological process) but just the outward appearance of predictable bleeding. The bleeding is on schedule but the whole hormonal balance --- a very intricate thing in the female --- is out of whack.

There's a whole different approach called Naprotechnology (LINK) which concentrates on careful diagnosis of the woman's actual, underlying problem which is causing the cycle irregularities. Sometimes it is nutritional; or stress-related; or a symptom of an underlying pathological condition (like polycystic ovarian conditions, tumors, or the like.)

Naprotech takes the time to make a careful diagnosis based on total endocrine/hormlnal health, not just covering up symptoms.

It is the only sensible approach for attaining normal physiological function, clearing up pain and cramp problems, restoring normal fertility cycles and thus being able to either achieve or avoid pregnancy via natural methods.

Talk about "controlling your own body." This is it.

6 posted on 05/14/2014 2:49:34 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("There's no point winning an Oxford debate if the other side wins everything else." - Mark Steyn)
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To: Black Agnes

What is t2d?


7 posted on 05/14/2014 2:50:31 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("There's no point winning an Oxford debate if the other side wins everything else." - Mark Steyn)
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To: DoughtyOne

What kinds of problems do irregular periods cause, for instance?


8 posted on 05/14/2014 3:01:54 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Mrs. Don-o
What is t2d?

Type 2 diabetes.
9 posted on 05/14/2014 3:09:29 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I'm a Contra" -- President Ronald Reagan)
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To: stanne

In the cases I have observed (and I am not a physician), the women have little or no period for several months, and irregularity at that. Then they can have a very heavy flow that is physically hard on them. It’s not a good situation, and it’s one that can be avoided. The use of a birth control pill regulates them, they get normal small periods, and the large physically draining ones vanish.

I obviously can’t say this works in everyone, and there may be good cause to avoid birth control pills for some women. They would have to, and should consult their physician regarding this sort of thing.

Some physicians may actually be against it. I just know what has worked for the women I have known who had this problem.


10 posted on 05/14/2014 3:09:32 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The Pill is a carcinogen that kills women and is designed to murder babies.

It should be banned.


11 posted on 05/14/2014 3:10:45 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: Black Agnes

Well I appreciate the alternative opinion. I can only tell you what worked for the women I knew. After a number of years of being off the pill, they went back on it to get regulation. Their physician tried to pinpoint alternative fixes. They couldn’t find a problem. Going back on the pill helped.


12 posted on 05/14/2014 3:12:08 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Thank you, but I’m going to have to go with the physician’s workup on this. I appreciate your alternative view, and I would ask folks to take it into consideration along with my comments. I don’t have a problem with folks using your advice, if it works for them. The physicians of the women I knew were unable to find a problem. When the women were put back on the pill, things leveled out for them short and long term.


13 posted on 05/14/2014 3:14:58 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne
I'm certainly not a gynecologist or an endocrinologist, so anybody should think twice before coming to me for expert advice :o/ I'm just dittoing what Black Agnes said, that painful, unpredictable, heavy-flow and/or no-flow cycles aren't caused by lack of birth control pills, they're caused by something --- some underlying condition.

If the doctors really can't figure it out, but they can mitigate the pain and problems, they're of course justified in going for mitigation. But it's just disturbing, over the years, to see how quickly doctors go for the masking of symptoms rather than finding out what's going on.

It's analogous to the artificial reproductive technologies which are called "fertility treatments" which actually don't cure infertility at all. They just substitute an extremely unnatural "something" as the "new normal." IVF. Reproductive surrogates. It shows a disturbing readiness to look for a substitute for natural female physiological function, a substitute for an actual restorative, therapeutic approach toward wholeness.

No judgment implied if, in some cases, a particular woman just quickly needs symptomatic relief as the only possible option.

14 posted on 05/14/2014 3:41:56 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("There's no point winning an Oxford debate if the other side wins everything else." - Mark Steyn)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Type 2 diabetes.

PCOS often progresses to t2d.


15 posted on 05/14/2014 3:42:23 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: DoughtyOne

I had tubes tied after 3rd child- about 10 yrs later, had massive bleeding that went on for 14 days. Went to Dr, they put me on the pill for a month to straighten out hormones. Worked great, solved the problem. Dr told me some women will “have a massive shredding of Uterine lining” at least once or twice in their lives. At least that was his explanation.


16 posted on 05/14/2014 3:43:26 PM PDT by Engedi
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To: DoughtyOne

I know you are thoughtful, DO, so forgive my tone, if it’s rough.

The Pill is a go to and much more than other pharmaceuticals, which are way overused.

The cases you are talking about are not epidemic. And there is little being done to expose the amounts of phytoestrogens in our diet, which is unprecedented in its vast amounts of non nutritive substances, hence entire cities of way overweight people esp women, who are naturally built to put on weight .

In any case, the Pill in no way addresses the underlying cause of the irregularity of the periods for these women. When they go off it to become pregnant, they are in trouble with the same situation plus the infertility, however temporary.

Here are just some facts from studies on the Pill that come to me from Catholic sources, as the Catholic Church is very honest about the Pill, though a majority of CINOs are not:

The Pill is a carcinogen of the same class as tobacco. Look at the incidents of brest CA in women prior to say, 1950.

The pill can cause strokes.

The pill, in a majority of cases, causes abortion, bringing the reported surgical abortion rate of 54,000,000 since 1973, in this country alone, to u\above 300,000,000. that is a CDC number.

The Pill causes a woman’s phermones to become pregnancy quality.

THis means that men are not attracted chemically to women on the Pill. Where does the predatory behavior come from in teen girls? their immodest dress?

this doesn’t mention the idea that women become sex objects on the pill. THe divorce rate is much higher among pill users. The Catholic Church has those statistics.

Divorce rate among couples who utilize Natural Family Planning is 1% (one)


17 posted on 05/14/2014 4:27:56 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Oliviaforever
The Pill .... is designed to murder babies.

Nonsense. The Pill suppresses ovulation so no eggs are released every month. No eggs released, no potentially fertile eggs. There is no murder nor aborted embryos.

18 posted on 05/14/2014 4:36:41 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Black Agnes

I appreciate both of your positions here. I’m not a licensed individual, and I merely wanted to add a voice. I think folks should get a wide variety of opinions, and then seek what works for them. As long as they know there are options, what can it hurt.

Thanks to both of you. I’m not here to shout down either of you.


19 posted on 05/14/2014 5:12:40 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Engedi

Interesting. Thanks for the mention. I’m sure others appreciated it as well.


20 posted on 05/14/2014 5:13:33 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne

Understood. Always get a second opinion is a good idea.

My distaste with the whole chemically regulated female cycles is this. About 15 years ago I worked with a lady who was on the pill and had been for 20 years or more. Married professional to another professional. Waited till she got out of school (she was a PhD), got the perfect job, bought the perfect house, took the perfect vacations and had the perfect life. Then, at age 43, she decided it was time for kids. So she stopped taking her pill. (I blame the media and feminists for this bout of fantasy on her part, what kind of knuckleheaded idea did she have that 43 was a good age to start a family? Starlets who spontaneously pump out twins at 44 that are probably donor egg babies don’t help this fantasy either)

And waited.

And waited.

And peed on a sheaf of sticks but never did get a + or double line.

She was in menopause already and didn’t realize any of the ‘pre’ symptoms because she’d been on the pill. She probably could have had a kid had she started that journey in her mid 30’s. But the pill was convenient, trustworthy and covered up her initial menopause symptoms until it was wayyyyy too late for any fertility clinic to help with that.

Remember the butter/margarine commercial from the 70’s? ‘It’s not nice to fool mother nature!’.


21 posted on 05/14/2014 5:20:22 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: stanne

Stanne, thanks for the post. I had no problem with it.

I read it all and it was straight forward and expressed a valid viewpoint. That’s fine with me.

I’ve got no axe to grind here. I try to explain how things worked out for people I know, because if one person has a question, then a number of people do.

Alternative views on this are welcome. When it comes to medicine, there’s frequently not one answer.

Vicodin is the only pain killer that works for me. Nothing else even touches my pain. I can take it, and it doesn’t affect me at all other than to take severe pain completely away in a matter of minutes. I don’t get sleepy, experience a high, or anything else associated with incapacity.

Other of my family members can’t take it, because it makes their stomach violently upset.

That’s the way it goes...


22 posted on 05/14/2014 5:20:48 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Black Agnes

Thanks Black Agnes. That’s a good point.

Reminds me of the opening sequences of “Ideocracy” where the family that could have supported kids and been responsible, kept putting it off until the guy died of a heart attack.

Meanwhile, Johnny two-timer down the street fathered a lot of kids from a lot of women, and his family tree when orbital.

The pill didn’t figure in there, at least not addressed, but I think it’s a valid point to mention it here in the context you did.

It’s something women should consider, no doubt.


23 posted on 05/14/2014 5:27:26 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne

Vicodin is a pain killer. Like antibiotics, they are wonderful when used as researchers and developers intended

The Pill, when used as intended, is not good in any way toward healing, improving ones social life, not anything, unless viewed from a selfish perspective, which is always going to lead to someone’s unhappiness

Vicodin, it’s for post op primarily. When used properly and not addictively, it improves mood, mobility and healing

Antibiotics ae way overused but when used appropriately can save life and limb

Not the Pill, which, btw, is meant and depended upon for chronic use


24 posted on 05/14/2014 6:21:13 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

Thanks for your comments.

We’re going to disagree here, but I do see a place for birth control pills.

If you wish to view it as uncalled for, that’s okay with me. I don’t buy into that mindset.


25 posted on 05/14/2014 6:26:44 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne

Plenty of us agree to disagree.

We’re not wacky liberals, after all.


26 posted on 05/14/2014 7:44:01 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Mrs. Don-o

You're mamma shoulda given your daddy a..... Or an asprin pill.
27 posted on 05/14/2014 8:19:33 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: stanne

LOL, good. Thanks Stanne. You take care...


28 posted on 05/14/2014 9:05:53 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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