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Plastic bag ban advances in Assembly
Los Angeles Times ^ | May 14, 2014 | by PATRICK MCGREEVY

Posted on 05/14/2014 2:39:47 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

A proposal to phase out the use of single-use plastic bags in California grocery stores was approved Wednesday by a key Assembly panel despite heavy lobbying efforts by the plastics trade industry, which warned it would cost the state thousands of jobs.

The measure was approved by the Natural Resources Committee, whose chairman, Wesley Chesbro (C-Arcata), talked about visiting a remote island in the northern Pacific only to find a line of plastic particles littering the beach.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; liberalgoons; nannystate; theother50percent
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1 posted on 05/14/2014 2:39:47 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

(C) ?


2 posted on 05/14/2014 2:41:31 PM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

When you’re standing in the check out line at the store call the Assemblyman at home and demand they get their butt down there to help you carry groceries.


3 posted on 05/14/2014 2:41:46 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
single-use plastic bags in

So the stores just relabel them Double use?

4 posted on 05/14/2014 2:42:33 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; All


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5 posted on 05/14/2014 2:42:36 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Patriot Babe

Communist (my edit).


6 posted on 05/14/2014 2:42:48 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
A proposal to phase out the use of single-use plastic bags

There is no such thing as a single use bag. They always are reused as trash bags, lunch bags, or storage bags.

7 posted on 05/14/2014 2:43:10 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Banning condoms?

Banning sandwich bags?

Banning protective LP album sleeves?

Oh, only banning disposable bags for consumers of store bought goods.

Well, the war on disposable plastics makes a good bumper sticker at least.


8 posted on 05/14/2014 2:43:58 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: FatherofFive

The cheap crud thin plastic bags (made from recycled milk cartons) are not reusable. They even fall apart getting the groceries from the check out to the car to the home.


9 posted on 05/14/2014 2:45:01 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I know!

Lets start making grocery bags out of something that's 100% organic, 100% recyclable, and comes from a renewable natural resource,.....

 photo paper.jpg

10 posted on 05/14/2014 2:45:28 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
More CA loony tunes. You go to a grocery store there, and the state requires they charge you for a paper bag. Now they're outlawing plastic bags. They need to bag the loons coming up with all this BS.

At some point, the penalty for living in CA exceeds the benefit.

11 posted on 05/14/2014 2:45:32 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
a remote island in the northern Pacific only to find a line of plastic particles

Plastic "particles"?

In a "line" ?

Did they come from California bags?

Are they even bag particles at all?

12 posted on 05/14/2014 2:46:28 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: FatherofFive

Agree. I always use those bags at least twice. Cannot imagine how I ever got along without them. The world will have to cut down more trees to make paper bags. which doesn’t seem environmentally sound either. Or maybe we’ll end up weaving our own bags from local weeds as devolution continues.


13 posted on 05/14/2014 2:46:50 PM PDT by Veto! (OpInions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Patriot Babe

crazy...... the man is a crazy


14 posted on 05/14/2014 2:48:31 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Veto!
I use them so much that I buy a big box of a few thousand at the restaurant supply every year or so.

/johnny

15 posted on 05/14/2014 2:49:33 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: a fool in paradise

California may distribute condoms to prison inmates; bill is advancing in state legislature
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3155866/posts

“paper or rubber?”


16 posted on 05/14/2014 2:52:04 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: Veto!
Agree. I always use those bags at least twice.

I have something called a "Bag Bag" It is a canvas bag that hangs over the door hinge. It is a storage bag for plastic bags, a small opening on the bottom so I can pull them out. Very convenient. I occasionally get paper bags, mainly to use them when I make french Fries. I never recycle paper bags.

17 posted on 05/14/2014 2:53:18 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: digger48
But what about the spotted owl?

-PJ

18 posted on 05/14/2014 2:53:57 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Veto!

They can grow genetically altered trees like row crops that can mature in <10 years, and customize them depending on whether you want to make lumber or woodpulp.

And those trees would love a chance to suck up some of that awful awful CO2 that’s supposedly killing the planet


19 posted on 05/14/2014 2:53:58 PM PDT by digger48
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To: a fool in paradise

The grocery stores should change the shape of the plastic bags and call them condoms.


20 posted on 05/14/2014 2:54:16 PM PDT by forgotten man
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To: digger48

You are one smart cookie. Patent that and you will make a fortune.
I do have a gripe about Walmart bags. I had a farm and the things would blow into the fence line, sometimes a cow would swallow them. You would watch the cow lose weight and it could die. Never happened to me because I searched for them and got rid of them.
They do travel quite a ways. Always figure that if we ever land a man on the moon again, he will find some Walmart bags.


21 posted on 05/14/2014 2:54:25 PM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: Political Junkie Too
But what about the spotted owl?

Windmills will take care of them

22 posted on 05/14/2014 2:55:13 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

and, yet, they want all food handlers to wear rubber gloves. Go figure.


23 posted on 05/14/2014 2:55:22 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Stuff generally not known about Calif:


On many beaches you cannot have a bonfire

On many beaches in LA county there is a very high fine for throwing a frisbee or a football

In SF pet stores are illegal

Very few home defense pistols and 90% of concealed carry pistols can be legally sold in California

If you are seen carrying a rifle or shotgun in rural parts of California you will probably have the cops called on you


24 posted on 05/14/2014 2:55:26 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: a fool in paradise
The cheap crud thin plastic bags (made from recycled milk cartons) are not reusable.

So these are already recycled products?

If they ban them, then what will that do to the milk carton recycling industry? People will just start throwing out the milk cartons again?

-PJ

25 posted on 05/14/2014 2:56:28 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
But what about the spotted owl?

Exactly, where am I going to get my spotted owl soup from now?

26 posted on 05/14/2014 2:57:30 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

Almart bags are the worst.

Can’t re-use most of them because they are so thin, the bottom is already ripped from the weight of that 2-pack of Twinkies


27 posted on 05/14/2014 2:57:57 PM PDT by digger48
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To: dfwgator
Exactly, where am I going to get my spotted owl soup from now?

You'll have to settle for Desert Tortoise Soup

28 posted on 05/14/2014 3:00:13 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What is a single use bag?
I have never met anyone who doesn’t use the bag for a single event.


29 posted on 05/14/2014 3:02:13 PM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: digger48

“I know!

Lets start making grocery bags out of something that’s 100% organic, 100% recyclable, and comes from a renewable natural resource,.....”

It was the environmental movement that was against the use of paper bags and said the plastic ones were more environmentally friendly

Back in the 1980’s the Greens were waging a war on paper companies. They claimed that an area the rain forest Kansas was being cut down every “X” number of days just to make paper bags and that if we didn’t stop it would destroy the planet.


30 posted on 05/14/2014 3:02:15 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: digger48

And my Tuna with Dolphin chunks.


31 posted on 05/14/2014 3:02:17 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: FatherofFive

A lady taught me a trick or two, take your walmart bag grab each end and twist till it makes a string and then tie a knot in it. I always just tossed the things under the sink and eventually they take over and cover everything else. I think they breed in the dark. I will try your BagBag, sounds like a good idea. Thanks.


32 posted on 05/14/2014 3:03:24 PM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Looney California libs are just right on top of life-or-death matters,aren’t they?


33 posted on 05/14/2014 3:04:58 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: dfwgator
You'll just have to be satisfied with Desert Tortoise soup from now on.

-PJ

34 posted on 05/14/2014 3:05:00 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Never mind. Thought this was a Nancy Pelosi thread.


35 posted on 05/14/2014 3:05:13 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: digger48

...and the groceries fall out the bottom when wet.


36 posted on 05/14/2014 3:07:15 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: svcw

‘What is a single use bag?
Reminds me of the morning after a hard night of drinking.


37 posted on 05/14/2014 3:08:30 PM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Why is this news. It’s been law for some time now.


38 posted on 05/14/2014 3:09:04 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It was lib environmentalist that forced plastic bags on everyone to save renewable trees.


39 posted on 05/14/2014 3:10:20 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: FatherofFive

I don’t spend money on a “bag-bag”. I just stuff used plastic bags inside a plastig bag! Problem solved! And it’s free.


40 posted on 05/14/2014 3:12:00 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Paper bags, GONE!

Good toilets, GONE!

Incandescent light bulbs, GONE!

Stop this madness!!!!!

41 posted on 05/14/2014 3:12:51 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Under Reagan spring always arrived on time.....)
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To: digger48

PAPER BAGS ARE PURE CRAP!


42 posted on 05/14/2014 3:14:10 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Maybe to some people the plastic bags are single use only, Not in my household.

Now, are they talking about the white plastic bags we get at the check out counter, or those flimsy clear plastic bags at the produce section?


43 posted on 05/14/2014 3:14:10 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This law has already been enacted in several counties in the San Francisco Bay Area. For these county-level laws, in addition to banning throwaway plastic shopping bags, stores must also charge 10 cents per traditional brown paper bag (with the exception of those on food stamps, who still get their paper bags for free).

The idea is to get everyone to bring their own re-usable shopping bags to the store with them. I love living in a stinking communist paradise!!


44 posted on 05/14/2014 3:17:41 PM PDT by Zetman
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To: Patriot Babe
Communist...
45 posted on 05/14/2014 3:17:45 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Starstruck
Never mind. Thought this was a Nancy Pelosi thread.

Well played!

46 posted on 05/14/2014 3:19:54 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Well played!

Thanks. I'm good at word association and trivial pursuit.

47 posted on 05/14/2014 3:31:30 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Fai Mao
That's no exaggeration. When the greenies were crying about the trees and pushing these infernal plastic bags, I would notice how many of them were snarled up in fences and trees, or just blowing across parking lots like tumbleweeds. The bags, not the environuts.

I thought yeah, these idiots sure love the environment all right, a wasteland of trash is just fine so long as it makes them feel good and they can remain oblivious to reality.

48 posted on 05/14/2014 3:36:40 PM PDT by Ezekiel (All who mourn the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

By the same idiots who wanted us to ban PAPER bags (to save trees) just 20 years ago.

We need SUSTAINABLE bags (cloth, re-usable)- it would be SO Agenda 21~!!


49 posted on 05/14/2014 3:37:35 PM PDT by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period. PALIN/CRUZ 2016)
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To: Mr. K

They should make bags out of the by products of hemp. Open a factory in Colorado.


50 posted on 05/14/2014 3:42:31 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary"S)
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