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Judge Rules 13-Year-Old Can Abort Her 30-Week-Old Unborn Baby (UK)
Life News ^ | May 14, 2014 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 05/14/2014 3:10:44 PM PDT by NYer

A judge in England this week ruled that a pregnant 13-year-old girl can have an abortion, even though she is 30-weeks along.

Justice Mostyn ruled she was capable of making decision after the girl, known only as “A” in court documents, said she was not ready to have a baby. She was 21 weeks pregnant when the case went before the High Court in mid-March, making it so her unborn child is roughly 30-weeks-old now.

teengirl2The teenager, who lives with her parents, only realized she was pregnant when her grandmother spotted her growing bump and took her for medical tests, the London Daily Mail newspaper reported.

The abortion comes as, in the United States, a new report from the Guttmacher Institute finds teenage abortion rates are down to their lowest levels since 1988, a drop of 66 percent from that peak.

Here is more from the report:

The schoolgirl – who can be identified only as ‘A’ – is believed to have thought she had been gaining a little weight for other reasons.

A scan at a local hospital confirmed she was pregnant but the devastated girl said she was not ready to start a family at such a young age and wanted to have a termination.

The girl was 21 weeks pregnant when the case went before the High Court as an emergency hearing in mid-March.

The local authority, which is in the North of England, was forced to seek a declaration that the child had the capacity to make the abortion decision herself.

This was required to ensure that doctors and hospital trusts could not be sued if they carried out the medical procedure.

If the girl was not capable of fully understanding the situation, the local authority would be allowed to terminate the pregnancy if doctors believed it was in her best interests.

He said this was the case even if it might lead her to take steps ‘wholly contrary to her best interests’.

He said girl A was interviewed by a consultant psychiatrist who concluded very clearly that she had ‘a very clear understanding of her position and of the options that were available to her.

‘Those options namely continuance of the pregnancy, or its termination, were discussed.’

Mr Justice Mostyn said the law allowed a child aged under 16 to be given contraception if they had ‘sufficient understanding and intelligence’

The psychiatrist said that although A was ‘softly spoken’ she was able to explain to him that her wish was to terminate the pregnancy as ‘she felt that she could not cope with its continuance and it would stress her to a considerable degree.’



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; ageofconsent; ageofconsentlaws; statutoryrape; teens; teensex; uk
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To: NYer

Couldn’t the same reasoning be used to give a green light to infanticide? Which this pretty much is, I admit.


21 posted on 05/14/2014 3:40:51 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: Pollster1

exactly. Who got her pregnant? How? Where were the parents?

Then again, it comes from a country where Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts are allowed sex in the tents/camps.


22 posted on 05/14/2014 3:41:54 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: NYer

Sorry. I thought this thread said 30 year old. In which case the 30 year old would be able to say “Wait a minute Mum.” But at 30 weeks all the kid is able to say is “ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...................................


23 posted on 05/14/2014 3:44:34 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: NYer

This girl will undergo virtually the same “procedure” physically whether the baby is allowed to live or not. Only the most sadistic and unethical medical doctor could perform this heinous act on a 30 wk gestation child. May God have mercy on the souls of the judge and whoever pursues this clear cut case of infantacide!


24 posted on 05/14/2014 3:45:20 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: lastchance

If she were depressed and wanted suicide she would probably be allowed doctors to assist. Europe is as crazy as the left is here.


25 posted on 05/14/2014 3:45:53 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GladesGuru

Please don’t get yourself zotted after well over a decade on FR by going soft on abortion.

This forum is for informing, discussing, sharing, and even debating between conservatives. It is not a place where liberals get to debate conservatives. And being pro-life is a non-negotiable part of conservatism.

If you are on the fence on abortion, I suggest that you avoid conversations on this subject or find another forum, because this forum is 100% pro-life, period.

By the way, the pro-life movement consists of millions of women as well as men. It has nothing to do with men telling women what to do with their body. That is one of many lies that contributes to our global abortion problem. Being pro-life is about basic morality, humanity and decency.


26 posted on 05/14/2014 3:47:20 PM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: Starstruck

At thirty weeks that alive child has been proven to be able to learn. This young devil is committing murder with the help of the state run healthcare system, because ‘the state doesn’t want to be punished a baby to take care of.’ The UK is in full rot mode.


27 posted on 05/14/2014 3:47:37 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: GladesGuru
Abortion at 30 weeks is far more traumatic, on every level, than childbirth. What do you think crushing that baby's head is going to be like? Dragging out the long lones, the thighs, the rib cage? And can they conceal from this child forever what butchery they have done inside her body?

She's being set up for lifelong emotional and physical suffering.

Not therapuetic. Not at all. For anyone.

28 posted on 05/14/2014 3:52:50 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("I set before you this day Life and Death, a Blessing and a Curse.")
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To: MHGinTN
This young devil is committing murder with the help of the state run healthcare system,

I agree with you and all I can do is paraphrase my last post "Awaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa........................................"

29 posted on 05/14/2014 3:59:20 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: NYer

Sigh....I spent countless night shifts as a NICU nurse trying to help premature babies cling to life. 24-weekers were a challenge. 30-weekers were a piece of cake; they almost always survived. What a waste of human life.


30 posted on 05/14/2014 4:19:14 PM PDT by Wage Slave
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To: NYer

She is not ready to be a parent... THEN YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE SEX!!!!!!! the baby is not yours, it is a special person.


31 posted on 05/14/2014 4:27:16 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: NYer

One cna only note that there is no MENTION of a father
in this story. Having sex with a 13 year old or maybe
even younger is generally frowned upon. Does he have
any interest in the blob or fetus as it’s mismaned?
( I usually call it a baby, but that’s just me.)


32 posted on 05/14/2014 4:40:30 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: GladesGuru
"Since then, I have been somewhat unwilling to tell a female what to do regarding child bearing."

Yet what the baby suffers is far worse---dismemberment and death. Never lose sight of that.

33 posted on 05/14/2014 5:11:28 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: Thommas

~I believe that there are many reports of women stating that passing a kidney stone was worse than giving birth. If that is the case, then men are on par with women’s physical, painful experiences.~

But..but...There is no CHOICE when you are passing a kidney stone! Hmmm? /s


34 posted on 05/14/2014 5:21:55 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: ExCTCitizen; All

We know next to nothing about the circumstances surrounding this pregnancy. This girl may be mentally challenged. She may have been molested by a stranger or a member of her own family. Even IF she willingly consented, a 13 yr old is not mature enough to make such a choice, i.e. statutory rape. I think it’s short-sighted and a little naive not to think she’s being very firmly pushed into an act of which consequences she cannot possibly understand.


35 posted on 05/14/2014 5:32:55 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: Wage Slave

My mother was a NICU nurse in an urban hospital — I can remember the stress she went through. It has to be one of the toughest jobs out there, not only the work itself but knowing some of the lowlifes that you have to hand over the precious baby to, eventually. God bless you.


36 posted on 05/14/2014 5:36:30 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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There will be two victims, the baby and the mother who is being influenced to kill her baby.

37 posted on 05/14/2014 5:39:54 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: workerbee

she’s being very firmly pushed into an act of which consequences she cannot possibly understand.


I am sure she is being very firmly pushed into this. Imagine if her parents, or other older relatives, or a charitable institution of some kind, or church, offered to help her with everything, guide her through the birth, and told her “We can find loving parents who will raise your baby so you will know that your child is being well raised.” Just imagine if she was given that choice.

I doubt she was.


38 posted on 05/14/2014 5:42:42 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: workerbee

If she can have sex, she is ready to be a parent. Should she? No...


39 posted on 05/14/2014 5:43:10 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: NYer

If she wasn’t ready to start a family, she shouldn’t be doing what it takes to start one.

So where’s the fallout for a 13 year old having sex?


40 posted on 05/14/2014 5:43:35 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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