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Bill Clinton Just Gave A Grave Warning About Putin's Plan For Ukraine
Business Insider ^ | May 14, 2014

Posted on 05/14/2014 11:05:43 PM PDT by Strategy

Former U.S. President Bill Clinton accused Russian President Vladimir Putin of attempting to "re-establish Russian greatness," warning world leaders they are perhaps not dealing with a rational foreign-policy thinker.

"Putin wants to re-establish Russian greatness, not in Cold War terms - in 19th-century-empire terms," Clinton said during a question-and-answer session at the Peter G. Peterson Foundation's annual Fiscal Summit on Wednesday.

Some of Putin's recent comments have stirred concern within foreign-policy circles. Over the past weeks, he has repeatedly referred to regions making up southeast Ukraine as "Novorussia," or "New Russia," and he has said Russia has a right to intervene on behalf of ethnic Russians living in those areas.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: billclinton; clinton; military; obama; russia; ukraine; ukrainecrisis

1 posted on 05/14/2014 11:05:44 PM PDT by Strategy
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To: Strategy

is it just me ? Or is this what we get for electing a community organizer for Commander and Chief ?


2 posted on 05/14/2014 11:07:25 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Strategy

Uh its not “19th century thinking”.

Its pretty much all of human history excepting the aberration of the past 70 years since the end of WW2.


3 posted on 05/14/2014 11:09:01 PM PDT by ClaytonP
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To: Strategy

“...he has said Russia has a right to intervene on behalf of ethnic Russians living in those areas.”

This reminds me of what Hitler claimed, about ethnic Germans.


4 posted on 05/14/2014 11:13:03 PM PDT by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE US OF US CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: Strategy

BC wasted a cigar. BC lied to every man’s face. BC is a POS.

Go to H Billy boy, no one gives a s what you say. Do humanity a favor and throw yourself in front of a train.


5 posted on 05/14/2014 11:13:54 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party)
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To: Strategy
warning world leaders they are perhaps not dealing with a rational foreign-policy thinker.

I think Bill C was referring here to our very own narcissist-in-chief.


6 posted on 05/14/2014 11:16:15 PM PDT by Bobalu (What cannot be programmed cannot be physics)
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To: Strategy

“Putin wants to re-establish Russian greatness, not in Cold War terms - in 19th-century-empire terms,”

A little late to the party there, Billy. I think it’s pretty obvious to most people by now that Putin has nationalist views, and a desire to restore Russia’s power both regionally and on the world stage. Most FReepers (not counting the handful of folks who were in the now eerily quiet Putin Fan Club) saw this coming a long time ago.


7 posted on 05/14/2014 11:18:25 PM PDT by DemforBush (A repo man is always intense.)
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To: Strategy

Clinton’s been reading my stuff - I said it weeks ago


8 posted on 05/14/2014 11:23:16 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Strategy; All

The NWO/AGenda 21/EU = UN World control that folks getting a little upset that Putin and Russians in the Crimea and eastern Ukraine don’t want to be forced into the the EU/NATO/UN rule -

http://russialist.org/ria-novosti-secret-cable-reveals-russia-warned-us-in-2008-meddling-in-ukraine-could-split-country/#.U3LpdsSaUZY.twitter

\\Will the real EXPANSIONISTS please stand up?

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/05/01/van-rompuy-says-europe-will-expand-without-public-backing


9 posted on 05/14/2014 11:24:54 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: DemforBush

Putin’s rich, but he doesn’t think like a Donald Trump. Putin probably could have bought Crimea, but stealing it gratifies him far more.


10 posted on 05/14/2014 11:32:33 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: maine-iac7

And so he taps into old Bear aspirations? This is like twiddledee versus twiddledum. UN wickedness makes Russian expansionism no less wicked.


11 posted on 05/14/2014 11:34:38 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

UN (I would say EU) wickedness makes Russian expansionism no less wicked. You are correct but it does help to explain how it all kicked off. We all know Putin is using it as an excuse. The EU overreached, miscalculated and should have been much more on the ball when it came to Putin.


12 posted on 05/14/2014 11:46:03 PM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: Strategy

~”Putin wants to re-establish Russian greatness, not in Cold War terms - in 19th-century-empire terms,” Clinton said during a question-and-answer session at the Peter G. Peterson Foundation’s annual Fiscal Summit on Wednesday~

Clintons are disappointed as far as there are no communists running the show.


13 posted on 05/14/2014 11:48:59 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: LeoWindhorse

a community organizer who has zero zip nada experience managing much less leading. About all he can do is spout SDS/Black Power babble from a teleprompter. He’s as oblivious to the real effects of Marxism as he is to Russian ships in Cuba.


14 posted on 05/15/2014 12:24:33 AM PDT by blueplum
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To: Strategy

Clinton may be a lecher, and lack self-control, but he’s not an idiot (unlike the current Prez). He actually knows how to do the job, and has the political chops to be credible in the position.


15 posted on 05/15/2014 12:24:58 AM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: Strategy

It’s a trap!


16 posted on 05/15/2014 12:31:33 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Strategy
Spoken by a man who gets scads of money every time he even burps and thus recreating the Gilded Era.

Hypocrisy of the highest order.

17 posted on 05/15/2014 12:36:28 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: SatinDoll; All

Sudetenland anyone?


18 posted on 05/15/2014 12:37:23 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Strategy

So, exactly how did they get him to stop chasing tail long enough to sit down and think up these deep world-scene thoughts?


19 posted on 05/15/2014 1:49:40 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Strategy

Bill Clinton, now isn’t he the impeached clown whose wife hit the re-set button with Russia and thereby performed an epic fail? Is that him?


20 posted on 05/15/2014 2:15:51 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Strategy

Countering Putin, if it becomes necessary, requires the decisive actions of a nation that values its own strength and place in the world. Drain-circling America isn’t that nation anymore. Russia and China are once again advancing their military numbers and combat readiness. This country, OTOH, wants to populate its military with transgender freaks.


21 posted on 05/15/2014 2:25:03 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: Strategy

The west including the US and Victoria Nuland poked a sharp stick in the hornets nest that is Ukraine and is now standing back in horror and confusion because the hornets are all buzzing around looking for someone to sting.


22 posted on 05/15/2014 2:34:00 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Strategy

Clinton is wrong again. Putin doesn’t want a 19th century tsarist state. He wants a fully operational Soviet Union 2.0, in a world with a greatly weakened USA.


23 posted on 05/15/2014 3:10:17 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

“The west including the US and Victoria Nuland poked a sharp stick in the hornets nest...”

I am still amazed at the stupid people, especially here on FR, that have no idea that the DC elitists started this.


24 posted on 05/15/2014 4:06:40 AM PDT by Duke of Milan
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To: Ray76
BC is a POS.

Seconded!

25 posted on 05/15/2014 4:30:43 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Strategy

Information from Bill Clinton, yea right.


26 posted on 05/15/2014 4:38:29 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Strategy

Thank You


27 posted on 05/15/2014 4:46:14 AM PDT by McGruff (#BringBackOurJobs)
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To: Strategy
A clip showing him trying to debunk Hillary's purported brain-damage was all over TV last night.

He looks like the last days of pomposity....sick and creepy.

Leni

28 posted on 05/15/2014 5:11:52 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: ClaytonP

exactly,

and i’m no fan of dictator putin,

but maybe putin should ask, what is it that bill clinton and his evil like minded ilk want also

i’m starting to wonder if Daniels ‘king of the north’ has shown up,


29 posted on 05/15/2014 5:26:21 AM PDT by captmar-vell
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To: Strategy

"Thank you for that penetrating insight."
30 posted on 05/15/2014 6:29:03 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Gaffer
So, exactly how did they get him to stop chasing tail long enough to sit down and think up these deep world-scene thoughts?

They took away his Viagra...

31 posted on 05/15/2014 6:37:45 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (Molon Labe)
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To: Strategy

Der Slickster, you’re a little late....Sarah’s been warning us about Putie for some time, now.


32 posted on 05/15/2014 6:39:54 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Strategy

The parallels they try to use with the Ukraine just don’t fly with me.

1. The Ukraine was part of Russia LONG BEFORE the Soviet Union. It goes back to the 1700’s, and actually the association goes back much longer than that. So, it might compare best with one nation preventing a section of its own country from seceding.

2. My other objection has to do with which is the legitimate government of the Ukraine? Is it the one that was voted in but ousted? Or is it the one that was not voted in but had the power to oust the previous one?

This is not easily disentangled. It is not as clear cut as some are trying to make it.


33 posted on 05/15/2014 6:54:28 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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Former U.S. President Bill Clinton accused Russian President Vladimir Putin of attempting to "re-establish Russian greatness," warning world leaders they are perhaps not dealing with a rational foreign-policy thinker.

Say what you will about Putin, but from a pure Russian national interest perspective, he's being very rational.

34 posted on 05/15/2014 6:55:37 AM PDT by dfwgator
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