Skip to comments.Kenya’s polygamy law gets thumbs up from U.S.
Posted on 05/15/2014 1:53:10 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
A U.S. State Dept. official has found something to like in Kenyas new legislation legalizing multiple marriages.
The legislation is quite complex and appears to include elements that represent steps forward toward greater equality for women, a State Department official said in an interview with Kenyas Daily Nation.
But the job is clearly a work in progress, the official said, adding that the legislation includes some provisions that codify existing traditional practices that disempower some women.
Kenyas Federation of Women Lawyers supports some aspects of the law but criticizes others.
We are happy with the law because finally all marriages are being treated equally, Kenyan federation director Christine Ochieng said in a press interview.
The initiative is long overdue because polygamous unions were previously not regarded as equal to regular marriages, the federation said.
Several female MPs had stormed out of Parliament in March when the legislation was introduced. They were reacting to removing a provision enabling a mans first wife to veto her husbands choice of additional spouses.
Elsewhere in Kenya, recent bombings and terror attacks sparked a social media outburst, revealing growing frustration with local area corruption, misplaced priorities and the presence of Kenyan Defense Force troops in Somalia.
This is what I think, wrote Martha Akelo Opondo on the Daily Nation website. Its like somebody has invaded your house and is attacking innocent people There are people who feel the world is too small to share, to live and let live, just to wake up each day and marvel at Gods wonders and allow others to revel in His Goodness.
If you ask me enough is enough. Its high time our leaders stopped issuing threats and statements. Its time to strategize. The truth is we are at war. When two cities are bombed two days consecutively (Wang teko), it is time to think and think hard. .. It is time to save ourselves.
Let’s take a look and see how Kenya feels about gay marriage....
Oh dear. Looks like it’s illegal to even be homosexual. Wonder how the state dept. feels about that.
If the State Department even hints that it’s acceptable and that such a ‘family’ could arrive and be settled into the US....then it opens up the front door for an American guy to fly into Kenya and marry three women, then fly back and the US would have to honor and respect the American guy in the same fashion.
Seems to me...it’s opening up a door with numerous issues to come. But....since most guys would like to have two or three wives....maybe it’s perfectly legit.
a provision enabling a mans first wife to veto her husbands choice of additional spouses.
In the US the Mormons have this provision too...
However I don’t think the first wife ever got to use it...
Emma Hale didn’t...
Her husband Joseph Smith took any woman he wanted and doesn’t seem to have ever checked with her...
It’s already a fact in Canada. Multiple wives.
Multiple welfare checks from the government.
Considering that the federals forced Utah’s Mormons to renounce polygamy as a precondition for statehood, this is ironic.
I thought it was already here.
My Five Wives, Sister Wives...two tv shows that promote it.
“....since most guys would like to have two or three wives....”
Wives or sex partners? I don’t know too many men who are foolish enough to want multiple wives in the USA. In fact the percentage who are interested in marrying at all has taken a precipitous drop since I was young and the age at which those who choose to marry actually do so has risen by several years. When I was 23 and still single I was looked on in my community as a “confirmed bachelor” already. Now any young person who wants to marry that young is considered strange.
Personally I think any man who really WANTS to marry more than one woman in this country is as crazy as Pelosi. Consider the wisdom of this old Oak Ridge classic.
Typical of “American” approval these days. Right down the s__t can.
Considering that the federals forced Utahs Mormons to renounce polygamy as a precondition for statehood, this is ironic.
What do you mean by “renounce” ???
and the Utah territory covered Utah, Idaho, Nevada, part of California etc...
East of the Utah territory was considered by the Mormons to be a foreign country...
They were a law unto themselves...a theocratic dictatorship..
The last polygamist prophet/president of the Mormons country of Deseret didn’t die until 1945..
the “prophets” in between 1890 and 1945 were all polygamists and their underlings also...
It was a proclamation not a surrender...
and there was anbother proclamation in 1904 and yet anther one later...
years after 1890 Utah sent a senator to Washington who had at least three wives...
He never was allowed to be seated though...
Seven million non-Mormons around the country signed a petition to ban him from congress...
Utah was told to send a monogamous man as the senator...
Utah was not happy about the rest of the country denying them their “constitutional rights”..
It was things like this that allow Mormons today to say they were so “persecuted”...
No the Mormons never have “renounced” polygamy...they still practice it...
and its still one of their main tenets...
d&c 132 has never been renounced nor denounced by any Mormon leader...
|Religion in Kenya|
America's FAG marriage law gets thumbs up from US; too!
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
5157, Emma Smith is counseled (commanded) to be faithful and true; 5866, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.
51 Verily, I say unto you: A commandment I give unto mine handmaid, Emma Smith, your wife, whom I have given unto you, that she stay herself and partake not of that which I commanded you to offer unto her; for I did it, saith the Lord, to aprove you all, as I did Abraham, and that I might require an offering at your hand, by covenant and sacrifice.
52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, areceive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.
53 For I am the Lord thy God, and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been afaithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.
55 But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an ahundredfold in this world, of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, houses and lands, wives and children, and crowns of beternal lives in the eternal worlds.
They DID; however; produce this really lame attempt at...
To Whom It May Concern:
Press dispatches having been sent for political purposes, from Salt Lake City, which have been widely published, to the effect that the Utah Commission, in their recent report to the Secretary of the Interior, allege that plural marriages are still being solemnized and that forty or more such marriages have been contracted in Utah since last June or during the past year, also that in public discourses the leaders of the Church have taught, encouraged and urged the continuance of the practice of polygamy
I, therefore, as President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, do hereby, in the most solemn manner, declare that these charges are false. We are not teaching polygamy or plural marriage, nor permitting any person to enter into its practice, and I deny that either forty or any other number of plural marriages have during that period been solemnized in our Temples or in any other place in the Territory.
One case has been reported, in which the parties allege that the marriage was performed in the Endowment House, in Salt Lake City, in the Spring of 1889, but I have not been able to learn who performed the ceremony; whatever was done in this matter was without my knowledge. In consequence of this alleged occurrence the Endowment House was, by my instructions, taken down without delay.
Inasmuch as laws have been enacted by Congress forbidding plural marriages, which laws have been pronounced constitutional by the court of last resort, I hereby declare my intention to submit to those laws, and to use my influence with the members of the Church over which I preside to have them do likewise.
There is nothing in my teachings to the Church or in those of my associates, during the time specified, which can be reasonably construed to inculcate or encourage polygamy; and when any Elder of the Church has used language which appeared to convey any such teaching, he has been promptly reproved. And I now publicly declare that my advice to the Latter-day Saints is to refrain from contracting any marriage forbidden by the law of the land.
President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
President Lorenzo Snow offered the following:
I move that, recognizing Wilford Woodruff as the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and the only man on the earth at the present time who holds the keys of the sealing ordinances, we consider him fully authorized by virtue of his position to issue the Manifesto which has been read in our hearing, and which is dated September 24th, 1890, and that as a Church in General Conference assembled, we accept his declaration concerning plural marriages as authoritative and binding.
The vote to sustain the foregoing motion was unanimous.
Salt Lake City, Utah, October 6, 1890.
35. Others were tortured and refused to be released, so that they might gain a better resurrection.
36. Some faced jeers and flogging, while still others were chained and put in prison.
37. They were stoned ; they were sawed in two; they were put to death by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated--
38. the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, and in caves and holes in the ground.
~ Wilford Woodruff, 4th LDS President
It’s too bad all our FR Mormons no longer want to come out and play...
Inasmuch as laws have been enacted by Congress forbidding plural marriage...
I hereby declare my intention to submit to those laws...”
~ Wilford Woodruff, 4th LDS President
That’s what he said in 1890
but he never did get rid of his extra wives...
and he added some more after 1890...
so just what did “submit” mean ???
ala Bill Clinton ???
You TRYING to get me in trouble???