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Why does the Department of Agriculture need submachine guns?
American Thinker ^ | 05/15/2014 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 05/15/2014 7:28:35 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Those federal bureaucrats who can’t be fired want to be able to defend themselves from angry taxpayers.  Or something.  AWR Hawkins reports for Breitbart:

A May 7th solicitation by the U.S. Department of Agriculture seeks "the commercial acquisition of submachine guns [in] .40 Cal. S&W."

According to the solicitation, the Dept. of Agriculture wants the guns to have an "ambidextrous safety, semiautomatic or 2 round [bursts] trigger group, Tritium night sights front and rear, rails for attachment of flashlight (front under fore group) and scope (top rear), stock collapsible or folding," and a "30 rd. capacity" magazine.

They also want the submachine guns to have a "sling," be "lightweight," and have an "oversized trigger guard for gloved operation." 

But of course those feds have our best interests at heart, so there's nothing to worry about. And those efforts to disarm us are for our own benefit.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agdept; agriculture; federalagencies; guns; poliestate; submachinegun; weaponized
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1 posted on 05/15/2014 7:28:35 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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2 posted on 05/15/2014 7:29:10 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: SeekAndFind

If citizens can’t have these weapons, government bureaucrats certainly shouldn’t be able to have them. This is elementary. What is Congress doing to protect us?


3 posted on 05/15/2014 7:30:58 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: SeekAndFind

In case the Children of the Corn attack?


4 posted on 05/15/2014 7:32:14 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: SeekAndFind

> Why does the Department of Agriculture need submachine guns?

Because they don’t train as often as beat cops and need the extra fire power to be sure they can kill you and your family “when the time comes.”


5 posted on 05/15/2014 7:33:10 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: SeekAndFind
"Why does the Department of Agriculture need submachine guns?"

Because real machineguns are too heavy to carry around all day.


6 posted on 05/15/2014 7:34:14 AM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: SeekAndFind

DISARM all federal agencies.
Make them work with local sheriffs in any situation requiring law enforcement authority.


7 posted on 05/15/2014 7:34:27 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SeekAndFind

Anyone who wins this contract needs to be boycotted.


8 posted on 05/15/2014 7:36:15 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: E. Pluribus Unum


9 posted on 05/15/2014 7:37:36 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Malaysia Flight MH370 Black Box signals reported in Bermuda Triangle)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
If I had to deal with the Children of the Corn, I'd want want a submachine gun, too. Don't know if it'd do much good up against He Who Walks Behind The Rows, though.
10 posted on 05/15/2014 7:37:48 AM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Children of the CORN throwing Killer Tomahtoes!!


11 posted on 05/15/2014 7:38:23 AM PDT by GRRRRR (He'll NEVER be my President, FUBO! Treason is the Reason! Impeach the Kenyan)
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To: SeekAndFind

FOOD SAFETY!!!!

When all caps and exclamation points won’t do.


12 posted on 05/15/2014 7:39:46 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: SeekAndFind

In a word: Peasants.


13 posted on 05/15/2014 7:40:58 AM PDT by null and void (When was the last time you heard anyone say: "It's a free country"?)
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To: SeekAndFind
Why does the Department of Agriculture need submachine guns?

It can't be more clear: the BLM needs machine guns to better protect the land the feds steal from the states and to shoot and kill American patriots who try to defend their Constitutional rights against the tyrants in DC

14 posted on 05/15/2014 7:43:24 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: SeekAndFind

I suppose the Forest Service has some people who are routinely armed.


15 posted on 05/15/2014 7:45:05 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: dangerdoc
When all caps and exclamation points won’t do.

When they figure out that hashtags really don't work.

16 posted on 05/15/2014 7:45:29 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Why does the Department of Agriculture need submachine guns?

Because when the SHTF they can seize the food supply to feed the bureaucratic elites. You never hear about government lackeys starving in totalitarian regimes when the rest of the sheeple are eating from dumpsters and landfills.

17 posted on 05/15/2014 7:48:41 AM PDT by immadashell (The inmates are running the asylum.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The GOP House and Senate should create a contract with America and item 1 on the list should be to disarm all domestic government agencies except for: FBI, parts of Justice Department, and a small part of Treasury. I can’t think of any other agency that needs to be armed.


18 posted on 05/15/2014 7:48:45 AM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Same reason the DHS, IRS, USPS, and every other alphabet agency needs millions of rounds of ammo.


19 posted on 05/15/2014 7:49:12 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Bible Summary in a few verses: John 14:6, John 6:29, Romans 10:9-10)
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To: txrefugee

“What is Congress doing to protect us?”

Not a damn thing. Neither republicans are democrats want to touch this issue.

The USDA wants to be send a swat team to your place if you have backyard chickens, or grow too many tomatoes of the wrong kind, or drink raw milk, or p*ss in the flower beds, or anything else that violates the new government agricultural mandates.

It’s to protect them from us. They might be attacked by mosquitoes, a terrorist gardener, or something. Who knows!


20 posted on 05/15/2014 7:49:42 AM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's a whole 'nother country.)
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To: Truth is a Weapon

Forestry. But I would recommend 12 gauge slug or 45/70 for bear protection.


21 posted on 05/15/2014 7:51:33 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: Vince Ferrer
Anyone who wins bids this contract needs to be boycotted.
22 posted on 05/15/2014 7:52:50 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Department of Agriculture needs assault weapons for their SWAT teams.


23 posted on 05/15/2014 7:52:52 AM PDT by pallis
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To: SeekAndFind

USDA needs sub-machine guns cuz sorgum can get pretty uppity ya know. Flax has been known to infiltrate liberal neighborhoods and carrots have gone underground and are planning a come back this fall.


24 posted on 05/15/2014 7:53:03 AM PDT by CARTOUCHE (I'm an Obamacare truant. Come November, please come!)
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To: Vince Ferrer
Anyone who wins this contract needs to be boycotted.

The requirement for it to be chambered in .40 caliber limits the choices.

Odds are the contract will go to Europe.

Something like the German built Heckler & Koch UMP40 or MP5/40 is most likely.

It is almost like the specs were written to fit the H&K.


25 posted on 05/15/2014 7:53:44 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Malaysia Flight MH370 Black Box signals reported in Bermuda Triangle)
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To: All

Sorry to be facetious about terrorist farmers and gardeners.

Yes, sadly it will be to commandeer our food, guns, and ammo when the SHTF.


26 posted on 05/15/2014 7:53:56 AM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's a whole 'nother country.)
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To: sphinx
DOA (interesting acronym) enforces the food stamp program. As such, activities in our safe inner cities may require some additional firepower. I sense use of MLRS's are unfortunately out?
27 posted on 05/15/2014 7:54:36 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Truth is a Weapon

USPO, not a federal agency, but they have an internal policing organization to protect the mail from their own employees, I believe they are armed.


28 posted on 05/15/2014 7:56:14 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: SeekAndFind

It all started with the saying, “If worms had machineguns birds wouldn’t screw with them.” Then it turned into the worms using those machine guns and....


29 posted on 05/15/2014 7:57:19 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: Truth is a Weapon

You make the assumption that the GOP is any less statist than the DNC? Silly me, who would that these days?


30 posted on 05/15/2014 7:57:36 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
In case the Children of the Corn attack?

There's lots of criminal activity going on in corn fields these days.

31 posted on 05/15/2014 7:58:13 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: SeekAndFind

Because those cows fight back??? lol


32 posted on 05/15/2014 7:58:48 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yep


33 posted on 05/15/2014 7:58:49 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; SeekAndFind

“He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.”


34 posted on 05/15/2014 8:00:18 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: pallis

SMGs are great for urban warfare, especially in suppressing fire at windows, doors, etc. They are even more effective when they are used as the support element, while a maneuver/assault element closes in with shotguns and large caliber pistols for CQB. Again, why do they need SMGs?


35 posted on 05/15/2014 8:00:19 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: txrefugee

We can in Arizona. The only thing that holds me back is cost.

My safe is empty since the boating accident.


36 posted on 05/15/2014 8:00:46 AM PDT by Glennb51
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To: Iron Munro

Er, no, ARs in pistol calibers including 40 SW are available. I would bet that the intent is such a weapon-the ubiquitous A3/M4 AR pistol caliber carbine meets all of these requirements. Look at the Rock River 40.

All said, DOA needs a swat team? I need to re-read the DOI once again.


37 posted on 05/15/2014 8:01:12 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: SeekAndFind

why do we need a Department of Ag?


38 posted on 05/15/2014 8:01:17 AM PDT by all the best (sat`~!)
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To: SeekAndFind

To shoot unauthorized farmers to protect a jumping mouse, of course!


39 posted on 05/15/2014 8:01:33 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: dangerdoc

Actually, a FReeper sent me this mail by way of explanation:

A big part is because they run the US Forest Service, and many clandestine meth labs and illegal alien smuggling operations are set up in National Forests. People would be surprised at how many investigations and special operations are conducted each year by the USDA.

Sadly, the USDA has largely morphed into a welfare agency lately, with most of its budget going to “foodstamps”. But even other than that, it has a broad mission beyond ears of corn.


40 posted on 05/15/2014 8:02:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: JimRed

Actually, a FReeper sent me this mail by way of explanation:

A big part is because they run the US Forest Service, and many clandestine meth labs and illegal alien smuggling operations are set up in National Forests. People would be surprised at how many investigations and special operations are conducted each year by the USDA.

Sadly, the USDA has largely morphed into a welfare agency lately, with most of its budget going to “foodstamps”. But even other than that, it has a broad mission beyond ears of corn.


41 posted on 05/15/2014 8:02:41 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I received the same message.

I wonder why they wouldn’t coordinate with other agencies/local officials who are actually tasked with enforcement of applicable laws.


42 posted on 05/15/2014 8:04:58 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: Truth is a Weapon
The GOP House and Senate should create a contract with America and item 1 on the list should be to disarm all domestic government agencies except for: FBI, parts of Justice Department, and a small part of Treasury. I can’t think of any other agency that needs to be armed.

And have them give up the Capitol Police force? Good luck on that one.

43 posted on 05/15/2014 8:06:27 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: null and void
Got this via FReepmail from a lurker:
Seriously, a big part is because they run the US Forest Service, and many clandestine meth labs and illegal alien smuggling operations are set up in National Forests. People would be surprised at how many investigations and special operations are conducted each year by the USDA.

Sadly, the USDA has largely morphed into a welfare agency lately, with most of its budget going to “foodstamps”. But even other than that, it has a broad mission beyond ears of corn.

(No, I don’t work for them. :-)


44 posted on 05/15/2014 8:07:54 AM PDT by null and void (When was the last time you heard anyone say: "It's a free country"?)
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To: Truth is a Weapon

And any weapons and ammo removed from the other departments are to be sold in the private market.


45 posted on 05/15/2014 8:08:18 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: immadashell

***You never hear about government lackeys starving in totalitarian regimes when the rest of the sheeple are eating from dumpsters and landfills.***

During the Siege of Leningrad a composer is called in by the Politbureau to compose a symphony to life the spirits of the starving population.
He said the first thing he smelled when he entered the door was FOOD! The politbureau members were fat while the city starved.
He got his orders to compose the symphony and left. He said they didn’t even offer him a bite of the food.


46 posted on 05/15/2014 8:09:53 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I can understand the questioning of other federal departments but considering that the Forest Service is under the Department of Agriculture, and given that the Forest Service Police is responsible for protection in national forests, and given the amount of illegal marijuana cultivation that goes on in these remote sites, then it’s understandable that they might want to be able to outgun the drug dealers.


47 posted on 05/15/2014 8:09:56 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Then afterwards, Stalin had most of the heroes of the Seige of Leningrad killed.


48 posted on 05/15/2014 8:11:04 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dangerdoc

A lot of that going around. And here *sob* I though I *sniffle* was special *boohoohoohoo*


49 posted on 05/15/2014 8:11:27 AM PDT by null and void (When was the last time you heard anyone say: "It's a free country"?)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is fact that meth labs and pot growing is done in the national forests. The forest rangers have to patrol many miles of forest without backup.

I think that instead of calling in a team of a few people with no knowledge of the area to eradicate the lab or the crop, it would be best to work in conjunction with the local Sheriff’s office.

The Sheriff’s office is responsible for investigating all crimes in its jurisdiction. It also has the manpower to take down the criminals if they are in the vicinity.


50 posted on 05/15/2014 8:11:46 AM PDT by Glennb51
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