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College Bans Fencing Team from Practicing with their “Weapons”
FrontPage Mag ^ | 05/15/2014 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 05/15/2014 8:00:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Not a lethal weapon

I’ve done some fencing and I can tell you that the “weapons” involved are to actual blades as cap guns are to rifles.

The most dangerous thing about them is the risk of the tip snapping off and hitting someone. It’s more of a risk in North Dakota where it gets really cold.

But zero tolerance insanity has taken over every campus.

“The current interpretation of the non-weapon policy in North Dakota State University (NDSU) …understands our fencing equipment as weapons,” says the club’s coach Enrique Alvarez.

Alvarez has been fencing since his early teens. He says despite their appearance, the foils, epees and sabers they use don’t have sharp edges or points.

“This is a spring and a flat tip that if you press the spring against the body of the other person, will be awarded a point,” he demonstrates.

Nonetheless, NDSU’s Police and Safety Office Director Ray Boyer cited the school’s policy manual and Code of Student Behavior, saying sabers and swords are prohibited on campus:

“They are deemed weapons, and as such, possession or use on University owned or controlled property is prohibited,” he says.

And that’s the striking feature of our imploding society. A vast system where everyone follows manuals, no matter how senseless they are. It’s how we’ve gotten so close to a police state.

There’s no room for sanity or common sense. No one says, “This is ridiculous. We shouldn’t do it.” Instead they go right back to the manual without even bothering to listen.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: North Dakota
KEYWORDS: ban; college; fencing; greenfield; northdakota; swords; weapons; weaponsban

1 posted on 05/15/2014 8:00:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Wussification continues.

They already have the kids.


2 posted on 05/15/2014 8:05:04 AM PDT by bicyclerepair (The zombies here elected alcee hastings. TERM LIMITS ... TERM LIMITS)
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To: SeekAndFind

They can use pool noodles


3 posted on 05/15/2014 8:06:29 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I'm a Contra" -- President Ronald Reagan)
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To: SeekAndFind

Don’t they have a track and field team. How about those javelins? For that matter the discus and shot are clearly weapons as well.


4 posted on 05/15/2014 8:07:20 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: JimSEA
Polish Univ. had a javelin catching team..but sadly it failed...
5 posted on 05/15/2014 8:08:20 AM PDT by Paul46360 (..)
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To: SeekAndFind

My high school had a rifle team. The ROTC cadets drilled with M1 Garands. God what has happened to this country?


6 posted on 05/15/2014 8:08:43 AM PDT by VR-21 (Next Stop, Willoughby.)
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To: JimSEA
Don’t they have a track and field team. How about those javelins?

As long as they modify them specifically for the Michael Sam types.

7 posted on 05/15/2014 8:09:20 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SeekAndFind

Hey they might put someone’s eye out!.................


8 posted on 05/15/2014 8:09:36 AM PDT by Red Badger (Soon there will be another American Civil War. Will make the first one seem like a Tea Party........)
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To: SeekAndFind; All
bureaucracy; has always been a bulwark for mediocrity/
mental laziness..(official) stupidity, so it's no surprise.

9 posted on 05/15/2014 8:11:27 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Bathhouse/"Rustler" Reid? :-)
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To: VR-21
God what has happened to this country?

50 years of the infiltration, indoctrination, and outright dominance of the filth that is liberalism, without any sustained or demonstrable pushback from normal, decent, God-fearing people. This is nothing... it's going to get a lot worse.

10 posted on 05/15/2014 8:12:25 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What? No swords for fencing?

11 posted on 05/15/2014 8:13:57 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Liberty Valance

No Sabers either, I’d bet.


12 posted on 05/15/2014 8:20:54 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SeekAndFind

>>There’s no room for sanity or common sense. No one says, “This is ridiculous. We shouldn’t do it.” Instead they go right back to the manual without even bothering to listen.

Worse yet, some read the rules and agree that it IS insanity, but then say, “But a rule is a rule.” These are the people who will do anything, as long as someone in authority tells them to. The group you mention are useful idiots, but the ones I’m talking about are truly dangerous.


13 posted on 05/15/2014 8:21:50 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyranni)
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To: SeekAndFind
Not a lethal weapon...I can tell you that the weapons involved are to actual blades as cap guns are to rifles.

True, but I bet the college has banned cap guns too.

14 posted on 05/15/2014 8:26:03 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Bryanw92
There's a fair size 'rules are rules' crowd here on FR.

/johnny

15 posted on 05/15/2014 8:26:04 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JimSEA

A couple of weeks ago, I volunteered at my kid’s school’s track meet. I ended up working javelin. High school kid from south of the border (California - big burly farm kid) came by and told me that their school did not have javelin as it wasn’t legal in California. He wanted to know if he could try it anyway since the track meet was in Oregon. (He tried it and admitted that it’s harder than it looks)


16 posted on 05/15/2014 8:44:03 AM PDT by Rio (Proud resident of the State of Jefferson)
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To: Rio

I know that a couple of kids have been injured or killed due to carelessness on their parts or, more particularly, on the part of the coaches, etc. But that’s an administrative problem, don’t outlaw the sport. Kids have also died playing football, running cross country and track due to undetected health problems. Shouldn’t we eliminate those sports, just to be safe. Remember, no running in the hallways. Nanny state forever.


17 posted on 05/15/2014 8:55:17 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Red Badger

Nothin’ funner than turnin’ the children loose with a game of Jarts!


18 posted on 05/15/2014 9:00:50 AM PDT by SgtHooper (This is my tag!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

>>There’s a fair size ‘rules are rules’ crowd here on FR.

There is, but 15 years ago, it was about 98%. Today, that number has diminished way below a majority and they find themselves on defense every time they say “rules are rules”. I think that the trend here on a conservative “law and order” board is an indication that Americans are just about fed up with being shoved around by tinpot dictators and their stupid rules, whether it be the thug cop, the school official, or the petty bureaucrat.


19 posted on 05/15/2014 10:42:11 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyranni)
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To: SeekAndFind; Ramius; 300winmag; IrishCatholic; lookout88; Wpin; spetznaz; Smokin' Joe; ...
thanks, for the post...
SWORD PING!...

20 posted on 05/15/2014 2:49:34 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Bathhouse/"Rustler" Reid? :-)
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To: SeekAndFind

Fencing teams can’t use their weapon? What should they use? A light sabre?


21 posted on 05/15/2014 3:11:24 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: skinkinthegrass

Madness. Can no one stand up and say the emporer has no clothes? This stuff is beyond absurd.


22 posted on 05/15/2014 7:53:45 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: skinkinthegrass

NDSU’s Police and Safety Office Director Ray Boyer is a dumb-ass.


23 posted on 05/16/2014 3:09:54 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: SeekAndFind
When western civilization (both in Europe, and here) collapses -- and it will -- and the realities of kill-or-be-killed occurs in the savaged remnants of our towns and cities, my only hope is that we take out of it these important lessons:

1) Men are men. Women are women. Men are strong, women are not.

2) Weapons training is essential to survival, and many sports are merely weapons training.

3) Gay people: Sit over there and STFU. Be grateful we don't kill you on the spot.

24 posted on 05/16/2014 3:30:08 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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