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JUDGE SIGNALS SHE’LL FORCE HOLDER TO HAND OVER FAST & FURIOUS DOCUMENTS
Breitbart ^ | May 15, 2014 | by KEN KLUKOWSKI

Posted on 05/15/2014 4:23:28 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson was openly irritated both with Attorney General Eric Holder and with the U.S. House of Representatives over whether executive privilege allows Holder to withhold documents on Operation Fast and Furious. But she also signaled she would rule against Holder in part, making it likely that Congress—and the public—could learn the truth about a gun-running scandal that ended with a murdered federal agent.

Berman began today’s hearing in Washington, D.C.’s federal district court with an opening statement about this case “concerning the suspected illegal flow of firearms from the United States to Mexican drug cartels.” She said that the “risks and flaws” of the Obama administration’s program were “tragically realized” when U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was murdered with a firearm that the administration let flow to the cartels as part of this program.

But she emphasized that the May 15 hearing was not about those issues, and instead narrowly focused on whether President Barack Obama could assert executive privilege to protect Holder’s refusal to hand over certain documents to Congress. Those documents concerned why Holder misinformed Congress on Feb. 4, 2011, claiming that the Department of Justice (DOJ) never allowed firearms to make it into Mexico.

On Oct. 11, 2011, Congress subpoenaed all the relevant documents that would explain why Congress was misinformed, including whether the misinformation was deliberate deception.

On June 20, 2012, DOJ informed Congress that Obama asserted executive privilege over those documents, saying they would reveal the deliberative process at DOJ and threaten the constitutional balance of power. Therefore Holder would not provide them. Holder became the first sitting attorney general in American history to be held in contempt of Congress.

Berman harshly criticized both sides, saying, “Reading the briefs were somewhat distressing.” But the Obama-appointed judge was especially critical...

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2deadfeds; 300deadmexicans; atf; banglist; brianterry; dea; dhs; documents; doj; executiveprivilege; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunrunning; gunwalker; holder; hsi; jaimezapata; obama; scandals; terry; zapata
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1 posted on 05/15/2014 4:23:28 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

A judge might do the right thing!? Wow, I’m in shock.


2 posted on 05/15/2014 4:24:51 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Jim Robinson
Fast an Furious?

But that was so long ago.

/sarcasm

3 posted on 05/15/2014 4:25:06 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (I never thought anyone could make Jimmy Carter look good in compariso)
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To: Jim Robinson

I wonder how she plans to force him. Holder thinks he IS the law not just above it.

Thug.


4 posted on 05/15/2014 4:25:12 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Jim Robinson

Don’t “signal” your honor. Just sign the proposed order.


5 posted on 05/15/2014 4:26:33 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Jim Robinson
The judge had better rule the “correct way” or she can expect an IRS audit or a visit from one of Obama’s Chicago thugs.
6 posted on 05/15/2014 4:26:40 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Bulwyf

Judge will be receiving beautiful framed pictures of her kids playing at the park.


7 posted on 05/15/2014 4:27:17 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Jim Robinson

Jackson is a Zero appointed judge. Hmm...


8 posted on 05/15/2014 4:28:49 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Jim Robinson

Jackson, Amy Berman

Born 1954 in Baltimore, MD

Federal Judicial Service:
Judge, U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia
Nominated by Barack Obama on January 5, 2011, to a seat vacated by Gladys Kessler. Confirmed by the Senate on March 17, 2011, and received commission on March 18, 2011.

Education:
Harvard College, A.B., 1976
Harvard Law School, J.D., 1979

Professional Career:
Law clerk, Hon. Harrison L. Winter, U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit, 1979-1980
Assistant U.S. attorney, District of Columbia, 1980-1986
Private practice, Washington, D.C., 1986-1994, 2000-2011


9 posted on 05/15/2014 4:29:22 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Jim Robinson

weren’t there two fed guys murdered?


10 posted on 05/15/2014 4:29:32 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Jim Robinson

What documents?

They’ve surely been all lost and/or shredded by now.


11 posted on 05/15/2014 4:29:44 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Jim Robinson

It’s a favorable sign. But I’m afraid that it doesn’t matter who orders Holder to do something. He just ignores the order. Then, what will the judge do next? Hold him in contempt? He’ll ignore that, too.

It’s difficult when you have an Attorney General who despises the law. We saw that under Clinton. If the entire press jumped on board, that might alter the case. But so far, they’ve simply ignored the significance of Fast & Furious.

Well, in any case, it’s nice to have an honest judge for a change.

And she was appointed by—wait for it—Barack Obama.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Berman_Jackson


12 posted on 05/15/2014 4:31:25 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Jim Robinson
A ruling is expected in the next few months.

Meaning that, even if its favorable to the House, its impact will be deeply diminished.

13 posted on 05/15/2014 4:32:17 PM PDT by okie01
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To: Jim Robinson

14 posted on 05/15/2014 4:32:51 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: Michael.SF.

“Dude, that was, like, six years ago.”


15 posted on 05/15/2014 4:34:42 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: Bulwyf

“Biting The Hand”?????????????


16 posted on 05/15/2014 4:35:10 PM PDT by bandleader
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To: Jim Robinson

No wonder owebama recently hired that famous defense attorney to be white hut counsel - its all starting to fall down.

If eric the red refuses to comply can the judge order him arrested by US Marshals? THAT would be a sweet sight!


17 posted on 05/15/2014 4:35:57 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED.)
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To: going hot

If public officials and judges and such are willing to stand up and do the right thing, I would trust there are real men willing to stand up and defend them. It may come to that. That’s a better option than the alternative of full out Revolutionary War II.


18 posted on 05/15/2014 4:36:48 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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Does anybody believe all relevant documents weren’t shredded eons ago?


19 posted on 05/15/2014 4:38:18 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%i)
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To: dsrtsage

Hillary may have grabbed a few as part of the ongoing mutually assured destruction pact between the Clinton Crime Family and the Chicago Mob.


20 posted on 05/15/2014 4:39:47 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: Jim Robinson

She thinks she has more power than Congress?


21 posted on 05/15/2014 4:39:59 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: Jim Robinson
Berman harshly criticized both sides, saying, “Reading the briefs were somewhat distressing.” But the Obama-appointed judge was especially critical of the U.S. House for its filings, saying the “[Government Oversight] Committee’s briefs are exactly what I was assured they would not be.” According to her, they were “accusatory” and “seemed more directed at the press than to me.”

Who cares whether or not they are "Accusatory"?

What does that have to do with anything that is constitutional?
22 posted on 05/15/2014 4:43:17 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

More spine and more balls, perhaps?


23 posted on 05/15/2014 4:43:31 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Rex “Holder” Lex.


24 posted on 05/15/2014 4:46:40 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: 43north

This is the judicial variety of good cop / bad cop. The appellate court will reverse, IF the trial judge hands down the wrong ruling. Courts tend to protect executive privilege and state secret. The fact the government is lying is completely irrelevant. Notice in this case, the actual events are irrelevant. The legal issue is only on privilege.


25 posted on 05/15/2014 4:47:01 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cicero

.........uh, true, I’m just an ordinary ole Joe, but I can tell you that I know from 3 days in jail that violating a judges order can have SWIFT consequences. For yours and other Freepers convenience, please note below the asterisk line what Senator Grassley had to say.

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.....I still contend that the House of Representatives needs to exercise their right to find Eric Holder guilty of ‘inherent contempt.’ By so doing, they would bypass the U.S. Senate and the U.S. Attorney for Washington D.C. They would have the right to issue punishment commensurate to the charges which would include sending him to jail. The last time the House used the inherent contempt charge was in 1934 in which they sent William P. MacCracken Jr. to jail for 10 days. The actions were upheld by a federal judge who deemed it was within the powers of the House under an inherent contempt charge.

Under an inherent contempt charge, they could set Holder’s butt down in a jail cell for a couple of months until he finally complies with the congressional subpoenas or until his boss is voted out of office and Holder is replaced with someone who will actually uphold the laws of the land. I bet you there’s a whole lot of Americans who would love to see Holder in jail until he’s unemployed.

Read more at http://godfatherpolitics.com/6857/will-obamas-fast-and-furious-executive-privilege-be-overturned-by-federal-judge/#JSygEl1rVRxYQ9Ij.99


26 posted on 05/15/2014 4:48:46 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Congress—and the public—could learn the truth

So? Does anyone actually think that this administration will even acknowledge this ruling? The have ignored every other ruling or law they didn’t like.


27 posted on 05/15/2014 4:49:01 PM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun control?)
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To: Cboldt

Well, I can dream can’t I?


28 posted on 05/15/2014 4:49:38 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Jackson, Amy Berman

Born 1954 in Baltimore, MD

Federal Judicial Service:
Judge, U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia
Nominated by Barack Obama on January 5, 2011, to a seat vacated by Gladys Kessler. Confirmed by the Senate on March 17, 2011, and received commission on March 18, 2011

So otherwise, calls will be made and this goes nowhere.

29 posted on 05/15/2014 4:54:00 PM PDT by DAC21
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To: Jim Robinson
Two murdered Federal agents (ICE Agent Jaime Zapata) and over 300 Mexican citizens.
30 posted on 05/15/2014 4:54:08 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Sad as it is to say, nothing will happen, the GOPe will pout and that pretty much sums it up.


31 posted on 05/15/2014 4:55:47 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where?)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Yes.


32 posted on 05/15/2014 4:57:00 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: 43north
Yes, of course! And there is something to be said for keeping a positive attitude, too. Not that I follow that advice ;-)

The article paints a picture that is different from the headline.

33 posted on 05/15/2014 4:57:02 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Jim Robinson

I foresee a fatal accident in Judge Amy’s future.


34 posted on 05/15/2014 4:57:02 PM PDT by null and void (When was the last time you heard anyone say: "It's a free country"?)
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To: ElkGroveDan
M-Peach-O photo MPO.png
35 posted on 05/15/2014 4:58:43 PM PDT by null and void (When was the last time you heard anyone say: "It's a free country"?)
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To: Cicero
Wasn't it Clinton that fired all states attorney generals...when he became POTUS?

Was/is that common practice among all newly elected POTUS's?

Frankly I do not know.

Can anyone clarify?

36 posted on 05/15/2014 5:09:14 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: Osage Orange

No, it was not common practice. And, yes, Clinton did fire all the district attorneys general around the country. That was unprecedented. And when W came into office, he left all Clinton’s appointees in place, which greatly weakened what he could do.


37 posted on 05/15/2014 5:13:47 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Bulwyf
‘twould be nice if this investigation were to “pop” two weeks before the 2014 election. No doubt there is more bubbling under...
38 posted on 05/15/2014 5:14:57 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Cicero

I think Clinton fired all of the US Attorneys. Bush fired a few and then he was excoriated in the press, which had given Clinton a pass. IIRC


39 posted on 05/15/2014 5:17:38 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Osage Orange; Cicero
It was too common practice. Use the Nominations Search Tool at the US Library of Congress to compare ...


40 posted on 05/15/2014 5:18:38 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Jim Robinson; maggief; LucyT; WildHighlander57; crosslink

And the walls come tumbling down!


41 posted on 05/15/2014 5:25:50 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list


42 posted on 05/15/2014 5:26:27 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: morphing libertarian
Clinton caught some crap because he had Janet Reno demand the resignations, and she asked for Mary Jo White's resignation. That blew over pretty quick, and Clinton deflected blame to Reno.

Bush did the same thing that Clinton did (and before him, GHW Bush, and before him ... going back at least to Reagan), ask for resignations of all US Attorneys upon taking office.

The thing that got Bush wasn't that HE fired some at the start of his second term. To this day, we don't know WHO requested a few US Attorneys to step down, except we know it wasn't the president. Bush "fired them all" (a few always escape, due to being on some ongoing investigation) when he first took office. That passed without any remarks. It was the "fireing of a few" at the start of Bush's second term that got the press attention, and the evidence is that some political hack in the WH (Rove, not even elected!) was behind ordering a few out.

43 posted on 05/15/2014 5:27:28 PM PDT by Cboldt
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Fast and Furious?

Like, Dude, that was over 3 years ago!

44 posted on 05/15/2014 5:31:58 PM PDT by Gritty (Climate hysterics shriek on. Loud and apocalyptic is the only setting on the machine.-Mark Steyn)
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To: Jim Robinson


45 posted on 05/15/2014 5:34:30 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Michael.SF.

Dude


46 posted on 05/15/2014 5:40:15 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God!)
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To: TigersEye

47 posted on 05/15/2014 5:42:24 PM PDT by Dqban22
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To: 43north

48 posted on 05/15/2014 5:47:11 PM PDT by Dqban22
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To: Jim Robinson
Let the chickens come home to roost
49 posted on 05/15/2014 5:50:54 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: Dqban22

Ice Agent Jaime Zapata Murdered While Investigating Fast and Furious Weapons

ICE Agent Jaime Zapata and his partner, Victor Avila, were ambushed at a fake roadblock in Mexico. Were they set up? If so by whom?

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While the weapons found at the Zapata murder scene were not from among the Fast and Furious guns, this revelation is profoundly significant, because it directly contradicts sworn testimony by Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano.

“I have no information to that effect, no. I don’t know one way or the other,” she replied to a direct question on any Fast and Furious connection by Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Texas.

Word games. Here's the little trick Napolitano, Holder and ATF are playing. F&F was an ATF operation run out of the Tucson AZ office. But some guns were walked out of Texas gun shops which puts them in the jurisdiction of Texas ATF offices so those ops must have had other names. So far I have not seen any reporting on what those op names were.

Armored SUV could not protect U.S. agents in Mexico

U.S. investigators recovered one of the military-style semi-automatic weapons used in the attack that killed Zapata.

The gun came from Texas.

Ballistic testing of spent shell casings and the raising of an obliterated serial number revealed the weapon was a popular Romanian-made AK-47 knockoff purchased at J&J’s Pawn Shop in Beaumont, smuggled south to the Zetas by a methamphetamine trafficker named Manuel Gomez Barba, a U.S. citizen.

ICE agent's family files wrongful death claim against Justice Dept.


50 posted on 05/15/2014 5:58:58 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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