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Will a Threat to U.S. Credit Rating Convince Republicans to Care About Global Warming?
Yahoo! News ^ | 5/15/14 | Danielle Wiener-Bronner - atlantic wire

Posted on 05/15/2014 9:45:29 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

Standard & Poor's Ratings Services (S&P) warned on Thursday that climate change will force down the credit ratings of countries throughout the world. Will this be the straw that breaks the climate change-deniers' backs?

"Climate change is likely to be one of the global mega-trends impacting sovereign creditworthiness, in most cases negatively," S&P notes, adding "Assuming that extreme weather events are on the rise in terms of frequency and destruction, ..

The S&P report closely follows one published by the CNA Corporation Military Advisory Board on Tuesday, which found climate change to be a risk to national security. The study was penned by members of a military research organization, including many former military officials, ... In an introductory note, the Military Advisory Board wrote that they hope the report won't be judged on partisan grounds:

We are dismayed that discussions of climate change have become so polarizing and have receded from the arena of informed public discourse and debate. Political posturing and budgetary woes cannot be allowed to inhibit discussion and debate over what so many believe to be a salient national security concern for our nation. Each citizen must ask what he or she can do individually to mitigate climate change, and collectively what his or her local, state, and national leaders are doing to ensure that the world is sustained for future generations... Time and tide wait for no one.

According to the New York Times, U.S. leaders who don't dispute climate change as a man-made phenomena recognized the importance of the report. But it appeared to do nothing to budge climate change deniers. Republican Sen. Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma dismissed the report because "there is no one in more pursuit of publicity than a retired military officer," ..

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Political Humor/Cartoons; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: creditrating; globalwarming; republicans; threat
a helluva lot of good having a climate change degree did for the occupants of santorini and pompeii and herculaneum,, they too are frozen in time , like a politician's soul when it comes to global smarming and the cost they would impose on all of us chasing vapours.
1 posted on 05/15/2014 9:45:29 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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The science is irrefutable, Sir!


2 posted on 05/15/2014 9:47:26 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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Does that mean I don't get my own Ipad? waa waaaaa..


3 posted on 05/15/2014 9:48:50 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

“Assuming that extreme weather events are on the rise in terms of frequency and destruction, .. “

which there is zero evidence of either greater frequency or greater severity when measured in the longest cycles of weather events


4 posted on 05/15/2014 9:50:15 PM PDT by Wuli
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5 posted on 05/15/2014 9:50:27 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: Wuli

has anyone ever drilled al gore’s head for ice core samples?


6 posted on 05/15/2014 9:51:11 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Nonsense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


7 posted on 05/15/2014 9:52:41 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: NormsRevenge

If you assume climate change is happening and the cause is man made, then you could conclude that it is a national security risk.

but with all logic, if you start with a faulty assumption, you end up with an invalid conclusion.

Additionally, if you assume the only recouse is to go 100% green energy, then you could conclude that path is a national security risk also.

But the reality is, if you assume the US govt. does nothing about the welfare state, you must conclude a financial disaster will occur which is a national security risk.

I wish S and P and the US military would publish that result which almost a mathematical certainty while the global warming premise is not a certainty.


8 posted on 05/15/2014 9:53:55 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: NormsRevenge

VERY CRAFTY!!!

Pure extortion.


9 posted on 05/15/2014 9:54:13 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: NormsRevenge
"Assuming that extreme weather events are on the rise in terms of frequency and destruction...

Well so far, so good:

Safest start to tornado season in almost a century

Downward trends in the frequency of intense Atlantic hurricanes during the past five decades

Violent Tornadoes Declining – Landfalling Hurricanes Declining

Global Warming to Decrease Hurricanes, Study Says

10 posted on 05/15/2014 9:56:01 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: NormsRevenge

Hmmm, doesn’t mention water vapor, which has far more effect.


11 posted on 05/15/2014 9:57:37 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: NormsRevenge

Michael Savage had a great idea last week. He said that once all this climate hysteria settles down and the scam is fully exposed for what it is, that all the instigators who foisted this crap on us should be put in front of People’s Tribunals and when found guilty thrown into special “Climate Prisons”.


12 posted on 05/15/2014 9:59:13 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: NormsRevenge

Well, if it’s throughout the world — then who cares?


13 posted on 05/15/2014 9:59:33 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: NormsRevenge

horse hockey!


14 posted on 05/15/2014 10:00:28 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: SpaceBar

And that includes these assholes at Standard & Poor’s who fancy themselves as scientists and not the worm-like bean counters they really are.


15 posted on 05/15/2014 10:00:47 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: NormsRevenge

The U.S. Credit Rating is going to now be controlled by Algore’s hoax and scam? Screw Standard and Poor’s. Who needs ‘em. This is fraud and extortion. Somebody at Standard and Poor’s needs to go to jail.


16 posted on 05/15/2014 10:00:55 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: Wuli
I totally agree. But you can always count on the media to simply say something is worse than it really is. Hyperbole sells and the more they use it, the "worse" and more "frequent" the "disasters" become. It's not true, but it's what the climate change crowd will use as their stick to beat the taxpayer for more money.
17 posted on 05/15/2014 10:01:13 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: NormsRevenge

My thinking has it that “Global Warming” is a colossal fraud.


18 posted on 05/15/2014 10:02:14 PM PDT by OldNavyVet (Looking forward to November elections.)
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To: NormsRevenge

The powers that be are determined to push their agenda upon us no matter what it takes.

I will again state that to free ourselves from the current and coming oppression will take nothing less than a full blown civil war, and perhaps another world war.


19 posted on 05/15/2014 10:03:31 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: SpaceBar

Savage had another good one: if the oceans are rising and the coasts will be flooded, ask a lib if they’ll sell their beach-front property to you for cheap.

NOT A CHANCE!


20 posted on 05/15/2014 10:03:53 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Danielle Wiener-Bronner

It would be easier to make a credible case, using economic and weather data, that the gassy ideas emanating from the mouths of people with hyphenated last names pose a greater threat to the U.S. credit rating than the gases emanating from U.S. smokestacks, tail-pipes, and cows' butts.

21 posted on 05/15/2014 10:04:09 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: staytrue
I saw Marine One on Thursday last week flying north along Manhattan Beach in Southern California. Obama was headed towards a fundraiser and Marine One consisted of a fleet of 7 helicopters. There was a lead helicopter, a trailing helicopter and 5 helicopters in the middle. Apparently, the Marine One fleet flew Obama up to LA from a fundraiser he had attended earler in the morning in La Jolla (which is about 100 miles south of Los Angeles).

The upshot - I'll know global warming is a serious issue when Obama downgrades his Marine One fleet to 1 helicopter from the current 7 helicopters

22 posted on 05/15/2014 10:05:22 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: NormsRevenge

It seems like the nation with the most, cheap fuel, and the geography and technology of America, would win over weather changes of any type, cheaper and more plentiful energy solves just about most problems.


23 posted on 05/15/2014 10:07:43 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: NormsRevenge

This sounds like something you’d read in the bi-monthly journal of a nuthouse.


24 posted on 05/15/2014 10:09:01 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: NormsRevenge

This is simply a case of S & P trying to curry favor with the Obama Regime (which can cause it GREAT harm). I’m sure that S & P are worried that the Regime has it in for them since they downgraded US government debt from AAA to AA+ several years ago.


25 posted on 05/15/2014 10:09:07 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: NormsRevenge

Who is it that runs S&P? I think it is some obastard insider thug sympathizer.


26 posted on 05/15/2014 10:09:08 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: NormsRevenge

If the GOP buys off on this BS, S&P will probably use “gay marriage” and “Common Core” to threaten us next. Sounds like some commie BS to me.


27 posted on 05/15/2014 10:10:32 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: Vince Ferrer
But Jupiter's red spot is shrinking!

Surely that is Bush's fault. Bush and those damned SUVs.

We are all going to die! In less than 125 years every man, woman and child now living on Earth will be dead!

Womyn and minorities will be hardest hit.

28 posted on 05/15/2014 10:12:57 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: NormsRevenge

Remember, CO2 emissions from the US have declined every year since the early 1990s.

Also, regarding an increase in “destructive weather”, it’s enlightening to point out that there have been no landfalls by hurricanes of greater than Category-2 strength in something like 10 years now.


29 posted on 05/15/2014 10:14:03 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: NormsRevenge
At first, I thought that this was satire. It's gotten to be that bad.

This is from the same S&P that issued AAA ratings for asset backed securities that lost most of their value following the credit crisis. We should have the same regard for S&P's future credit ratings as we have for their opinion on global warming.

The same principle applies to business news organizations such as the WSJ, Barrons, Bloomberg and even Forbes. Their editorial staffs have become so politicized and divorced from reality that not a word of their other content can be trusted.

30 posted on 05/15/2014 10:19:42 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: NormsRevenge

The last time the S&P buffoons threatened this stuff, Barry put his boys on them. He better do it again.


31 posted on 05/15/2014 10:23:10 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: NormsRevenge

GLOBAL WARMING SCIENTISTS COVERED UP SCEPTIC’S ‘DAMAGING’ REVIEW

Ben Webster Environment Editor

Last updated at 12:01AM, May 16 2014

Research which heaped doubt on the rate of global warming was deliberately suppressed by scientists because it was “less than helpful” to their cause, it was claimed last night.

In an echo of the infamous “Climategate” scandal at the University of East Anglia, one of the world’s top academic journals rejected the work of five experts after a reviewer privately denounced it as “harmful”.

Lennart Bengtsson, a research fellow at the University of Reading and one of the authors of the study, said he suspected that intolerance of dis- senting views on climate science was preventing his paper from being

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/science/article4091344.ece


32 posted on 05/15/2014 10:29:23 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Vince Ferrer

A year or two ago I read some climate-guesser’s estimate that global warming would reduce severe weather events. I think the premise was something like reduced temperature gradients (everything being warmer, less variation) there would be less instability in the atmosphere. Of course someone noticed that you can’t scare people into forking over cash and control by telling them weather is going to get milder, so that report was buried and the author suitably chastised.


33 posted on 05/15/2014 10:29:39 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Study suggesting global warming is exaggerated was rejected for publication in respected journal because it was ‘less than helpful’ to the climate cause, claims professor

Professor Lennart Bengtsson claims his study on global warming has been rejected as it might fuel climate scepticism

Says he suspects an intolerance of dissenting views on climate science
Paper suggests that climate is less sensitive to greenhouse gases than previously thought

A scientific study which suggests global warming has been exaggerated was rejected by a respected journal because it might fuel climate scepticism, it was claimed last night.

The alarming intervention, which raises fears of ‘McCarthyist’ pressure for environmental scientists to conform, came after a reviewer said the research was ‘less than helpful’ to the climate cause.

Professor Lennart Bengtsson, a research fellow at the University of Reading and one of five authors of the study, said he suspected that intolerance of dissenting views on climate science was preventing his paper from being published.

‘The problem we now have in the climate community is that some scientists are mixing up their scientific role with that of a climate activist,’ he told the Times.

Prof Bengtsson’s paper suggests that the Earth’s environment might be much less sensitive to greenhouse gases than previously thought.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2630023/Study-suggesting-global-warming-exaggerated-rejected-publication-respected-journal-helpful-climate-cause-claims-professor.html


34 posted on 05/15/2014 10:35:14 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Kennard

“This is from the same S&P that issued AAA ratings for asset backed securities that lost most of their value following the credit crisis. We should have the same regard for S&P’s future credit ratings as we have for their opinion on global warming.”

The brainwashing attempt this time is the use of the word “change”.

This will be programmed from kindergarton age on, as they can’t get enough Extortion-Care theft fast enough.


35 posted on 05/15/2014 10:49:49 PM PDT by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: NormsRevenge

Article written by...”Danielle Wiener-Bronner”. Hyphens are always the 1st clue.


36 posted on 05/15/2014 11:04:22 PM PDT by albie
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To: Pox
In 50 years, "Progressives" and "Democrats" will be viewed as Nazis are today...if we survive the evil they have planned.

I think the next time someone starts talking to me about "Climate Change", I should just sock him in the mouth and consider it self defense.

37 posted on 05/15/2014 11:55:14 PM PDT by Squeako (The radicals are the wolves. The moderates are the wolves in sheep's clothing.)
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>> Standard & Poor’s Ratings Services (S&P) warned on Thursday that climate change will force down the credit ratings of countries throughout the world.

Climate change begets credit change. Ah ha...


38 posted on 05/15/2014 11:56:30 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: NormsRevenge

“Standard & Poor’s Ratings Services (S&P) warned on Thursday that climate change will force down the credit ratings of countries throughout the world. Will this be the straw that breaks the climate change-deniers’ backs?”

So, S&P will use extortion?


39 posted on 05/16/2014 12:34:03 AM PDT by stilloftyhenight (...staying home isn't an option.)
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To: BradyLS
Savage had another good one: if the oceans are rising and the coasts will be flooded, ask a lib if they’ll sell their beach-front property to you for cheap.

NOT A CHANCE!

Another way of saying the same thing - that “liberals” don’t actually believe CO2 is the problem they claim to believe it is - is to point out that China is stamping out coal-fired power plants like cookies. Ask them what they propose to do about that - and you’re pretty sure to be able to hear crickets.

40 posted on 05/16/2014 1:46:59 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which “liberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Gee, sounds pretty harsh given that there has been no warming for 17+ years, more so with the globe being in a cooling cycle since the Medieval Warm Period.

Seriously, after the hoaxers lies have been destroyed with science and reality and their own self-incrimination emails, there is nothing to do but laugh and be amused at the relentless pursuit of backdoor international socialism by the useful idiots, and at the prostitution by those "climate scientists" bought off by Big Government grants.

41 posted on 05/16/2014 3:53:36 AM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: NormsRevenge
In an introductory note, the Military Advisory Board wrote that they hope the report won't be judged on partisan grounds

I'd be thrilled to see it judged an actual scientific grounds.

42 posted on 05/16/2014 5:14:11 AM PDT by Maceman
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