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Fee to build phantom nuke waste site ends
Fuel Fix ^ | May 15, 2014 | Associated Press

Posted on 05/16/2014 5:31:16 AM PDT by thackney

…The Energy Department will stop charging the fee by court order on Friday. The amount is only a small percentage of most customers’ bills, but it adds up to $750 million a year. The fund now holds $37 billion.

The money was collected to build a long-term disposal site for the highly radioactive nuclear waste generated by the nation’s nuclear power plants that is, by law, the federal government’s responsibility. …Don’t expect a refund, however. The latest Energy Department strategy, laid out in a report last year, is to have a site designed by 2042 and built by 2048 using the money in the fund.

…a typical residential customer pays $2 a year into the fund.

…In 2002 Congress approved Nevada’s Yucca Mountain as a site for a national nuclear waste dump and $9.5 billion was withdrawn from the fund to develop the project, according to the Government Accountability Office. But the project has been criticized as inadequate and flawed and is fiercely opposed by Nevadans. President Obama, fulfilling a campaign promise, cut funding for the program, withdrew its license application, and dismantled the office that was working on it.

”It’s a victory for customers,” White said of the end of the fee collection. “But it’s bittersweet because we’d still rather see a (nuclear waste) site.”

(Excerpt) Read more at fuelfix.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: energy; nuclear

1 posted on 05/16/2014 5:31:16 AM PDT by thackney
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To: thackney

Because all that existing nuclear waste is safer sitting at the power plants.


2 posted on 05/16/2014 5:35:51 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: thackney

Piggybank for Politicians.


3 posted on 05/16/2014 5:37:08 AM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: driftdiver

Collecting $37 billion from taxpayers hasn’t made it any safer.


4 posted on 05/16/2014 5:37:21 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: thackney

What a nice slush fund!


5 posted on 05/16/2014 5:37:24 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: thackney

What a nice slush fund!


6 posted on 05/16/2014 5:37:24 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: thackney
I'm surprised the fund still has money in it.
With all the sticky fingers in government I'm surprised it hasn't been "diverted" to some "green" crony project or another.

7 posted on 05/16/2014 5:39:49 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: saganite
Don’t expect a refund, however. The latest Energy Department strategy, laid out in a report last year, is to have a site designed by 2042 and built by 2048 using the money in the fund.

In other words, "We spent the money and are kicking the can down the road till most of you are dead".
8 posted on 05/16/2014 5:41:40 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: cripplecreek

Boy oh boy is that true, but it did fund some really really great parties.

Who the heck makes these decisions and why aren’t they ever tarred and feathered?


9 posted on 05/16/2014 5:41:43 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

I’ve complained about this scam a couple of times in recent months but underestimated the amount be nearly half.


10 posted on 05/16/2014 5:43:19 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: thackney

“... The fund now holds $37 billion ...”
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I suppose that money sits in a lock box alongside the social security fund.


11 posted on 05/16/2014 5:43:54 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

And highway funds, don’t forget the highway funds that are safely tucked away.

Its really sad how some get so upset by leaders in Ukraine and elsewhere stealing money when they’re nothing but petty thieves compared to our government.


12 posted on 05/16/2014 5:48:19 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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13 posted on 05/16/2014 5:50:21 AM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: cripplecreek

They are probably just upset that they are missing a great opportunity.


14 posted on 05/16/2014 5:52:31 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: thackney

Wasn’t this fund used to build Yucca Mountain, which is now mothballed, despite the fact that it is geologically the MOST ideal spot for such a thing?


15 posted on 05/16/2014 5:53:41 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: BitWielder1

:: I’m surprised the fund still has money in it. ::

I’m surprised that a good FReeper like BitWielder1 believes that the funding exists beyond a paper-chase-account.


16 posted on 05/16/2014 6:00:54 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The Acronym explains the science.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
You got me there :)

17 posted on 05/16/2014 6:03:12 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: cripplecreek

So they spent $9.5 Billion on Yucca Mountain. Built a huge underground facility with massive infrastructure and have now abandoned it.

I guess the one good thing is this money was spent in this country vs sending it to Pakistan.


18 posted on 05/16/2014 6:04:49 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: thackney
Don’t expect a refund, however. The latest Energy Department strategy, laid out in a report last year, is to have a site designed by 2042 and built by 2048 using the money in the fund.

Government never losses on these deals. One, does not have to refund the money. Two, will spend the 37 billion between now and then. Three, will be able to impose a new tax for this project since there will not be any money left to build the project and the new tax will be twice as much (or more) then the original tax.

19 posted on 05/16/2014 6:13:31 AM PDT by Lockbox
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To: driftdiver
Keep things in perspective. The DOE spent $9.5 billion over 30 years on Yucca Mtn. only to have Obama kill it because he wanted Harry Reid re-elected and Gregory Jaczko named NRC Chairman. As much a waste as that is, compare it to the gummint spending $80 billion in one year alone on food stamps for people who evidently can't (won't) feed themselves or their families. At least the people who worked on Yucca Mtn. paid for their own food (I know I did).
20 posted on 05/16/2014 6:21:22 AM PDT by chimera
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To: thackney
By the time a waste repository is built, the stuff will have decayed to the point of being safe.

2042? Nearly 100 years?

21 posted on 05/16/2014 6:26:57 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Wasn’t this fund used to build Yucca Mountain, which is now mothballed, despite the fact that it is geologically the MOST ideal spot for such a thing?

As I understand it, yes to all of that. And still has $37 billion left.

22 posted on 05/16/2014 6:33:42 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

. “The latest Energy Department strategy, laid out in a report last year, is to have a site designed by 2042 and built by 2048 using the money in the fund.”

They will then determine the strategy “woefully underfunded” and will re-instate the fee x ten.


23 posted on 05/16/2014 6:34:08 AM PDT by Straight8
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24 posted on 05/16/2014 6:36:07 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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25 posted on 05/16/2014 6:43:50 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The Acronym explains the science.)
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To: thackney

Encase the waste in round glass barrels (there is plenty of sand to make the glass) and sink them in the deep ocean. JMHO


26 posted on 05/16/2014 6:49:16 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: thackney

Why not reprocess the waste? Doesn’t France do that?


27 posted on 05/16/2014 7:10:58 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

France, Japan, Russia...

But that would make sense.


28 posted on 05/16/2014 7:11:46 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: driftdiver

It is not safer if they are not spending the money or do not need the money. Don’t equate to solving a problem; like thinking more money for education means more education.


29 posted on 05/16/2014 7:13:46 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: chimera

I don’t see what the issue with Yucca Mtn is. The waste has to go somewhere. Storing it properly will greatly reduce the risk of an accident elsewhere.

Wherever they try to put it the anti-nuke people will whip up hysteria among the local population.


30 posted on 05/16/2014 7:37:19 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: CodeToad

huh

Of course just spending money doesn’t make anything safer. Making a proper storage facility would increase safety and control of the waste.


31 posted on 05/16/2014 7:38:16 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
It is remote, but the rock there is pretty well fractured.

The only thing that makes it most ideal is the relative absence of people next door...

We went over this in the 70s when I was in grad school, before Three Mile Island and a career track change.

Every long term disposal concept has its flaws.

The trick is to put it someplace where people and the waste aren't going to be in contact inadvertently in 10,000 years or so. When you consider climate changes in the last 10K years, people movements, and language changes, we really don't know what the next 10K years will bring in terms of technology, culture, behaviour, or whether there will be technical progression or regression.

That's a lot to plan for on the human end, but climate could change as well if there is an new Ice Age, if there are significant tectonic events, or other factors.

So the dry climate of today could be the rain forest of 3000 years from now. While we'll be long gone, the effects on the residents then might not be so ideal.

That is our responsibility, we made the mess and now we need to figure out how to safely inter it.

32 posted on 05/16/2014 7:45:12 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: driftdiver
There are no technical issues and the application to NRC to build and operate the facility will show that. It was simply a political move by Obama to appease the voters in NV and get Harry Reid re-elected and move Jaczko up to the NRC Chair.

The Nuclear Waste Policy Act, a federal law, requires the DOE to build and operate a national repository for used fuel. It is funded by the fees paid by nuclear generators (not direct tax dollars, although in the end, like everything, consumers pay the bill). The NWPA is a law still on the books, but Obama and his DOE are willfully ignoring it. Thus, they are violating federal law, once again circumventing the will of Congress to veto a policy they don't like. Now, I know what would happen to me or anyone here if we willfully violated a federal law. They'd come after us and lock us up and throw away the key. But these scumbags just skate away. Typical.

33 posted on 05/16/2014 7:45:19 AM PDT by chimera
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To: thackney

Now check into phone & utility “fees”...


34 posted on 05/16/2014 8:43:52 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: Don Corleone
Encase the waste in round glass barrels (there is plenty of sand to make the glass) and sink them in the deep ocean. JMHO

The neutrons in the waste act like a sand blasting operation against the glass. It is reduced to a fine talcum powder mixed with the remaining waste.

The ocean is getting filled with plenty of waste from Fukushima daily. 300 tons of water washing over the cores that melted below the reactor containment vessels.

The nice folks in Carlsbad, NM at the WIPP facility invited the "customers" to send much high level waste than was originally agreed to the site. They have caverns 2000 feet below ground level in salt formations. The salt and bacteria disintegrated barrels with plutonium and americium in less than 5 years. There was an explosion on Feb 14, 2014 that filled the facility with plutonium and americium contaminants and blew out the air vents to contaminate the surrounding town. And for more fun, the salt formation lies above a layer of brine pressurized from nearby fracking operations. Brine + salt formation = nuclear waste in solution and passing into the water table.

WIPP will be closed for years and the crap that was being packaged to transport to WIPP will have to stay at the location of origin. The locations of origin don't really have a safe means of storage. Perhaps we can stop making more of this crap.

35 posted on 05/16/2014 9:48:53 AM PDT by Myrddin
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