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Eric Shinseki’s Meaningless Claim That He ‘Takes Responsibility’
National Review ^ | May 16, 2014 | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 05/16/2014 7:43:57 AM PDT by george76

The abominable callousness demonstrated at the Department of Veterans Affairs is deadly serious, and warrants more than an all-too-familiar claim of “responsibility” from Eric Shinseki:

...

Of course, Shinskei is just echoing his boss and other members of the administration:

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s declaration that she takes responsibility for the failure to secure our facilities and personnel in Libya — with no word on any actual consequence of this failure — is the most recent example. But the approach began from the very start of this administration.

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Discussing the national debt in Virginia on Aug. 6, 2009, Obama said, “I don’t mind being responsible. I expect to be held responsible for these issues, because I’m the president.” We’ve added $4.4 trillion in new debt since he said those words.

* After ObamaCare passed, the president admitted he hadn’t kept his promises on how the legislation would be handled... Obama said. “I take responsibility.”

...

The new way to avoid taking responsibility is to tell the world you’re “taking responsibility.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: District of Columbia; US: Florida; US: Virginia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: benghazi; ericshinseki; hillary; libya; responsibility; shinseki; va; veterans

1 posted on 05/16/2014 7:43:57 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76
“I take responsibility.”

It started with Janet Reno after she burned a bunch of people alive. The phrase was meaningless but it made the press swoon over her.

Today it means 'praise me for being so cool and shut the 'f' up ... let's move on'...

2 posted on 05/16/2014 7:47:01 AM PDT by GOPJ (Obama - when will you tell radical muslims to stop clinging to their guns & religion?)
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To: george76

Time to fall on his sword.


3 posted on 05/16/2014 7:49:06 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: GOPJ

Heck, everybody takes responsibility.

Obama took responsibility for Obamacare and the disasterous roll out. So did Sibelius.

Hillary said she took responsibility for Benghazi.

These liberals say they take responsibility, the media is satisfied with that, and then we’re all supposed to move on, and not ask any more questions.


4 posted on 05/16/2014 7:52:42 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: luvbach1
Time to fall on his sword.

That's racist.

Off, OFF, Damned Sarcasm!!!

5 posted on 05/16/2014 7:54:22 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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To: GOPJ

Only when followed immediately by,
“...and therefore I am resigning my position effective immediately” does the term “I take full responsibility” have any meaning whatsoever.


6 posted on 05/16/2014 7:55:21 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: george76

Oh, you want to “take responsibility”? I won’t believe you until you say you want to “take the consequences” and that actually happens.

Beyond that, it’s JUST WORDS devoid of any meaning.


7 posted on 05/16/2014 7:55:48 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: luvbach1
Time to fall on his sword.

And move on to replace Sebelius at HHS or Lerner at IRS ?

8 posted on 05/16/2014 7:55:57 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: george76

For as long as this has been known about; if he were competent then

1. He would have already begun an open and full internal investigation.
2. He would have already begun directing subordinates to correct the problems.
3. He would have come to the hearings fully prepared to answer the questions and provide the committee with updates on what was being done to correct the information.
4. His answers to questions that he didn’t have information about would have been “I don’t know sir but I will return with full answers to those questions”.

This is the least most senior officers expect of their subordinates in a military setting but then he was a general officer and now a high level political appointee so needs no competencies or integrity.

Doesn’t say much about any abilities that brought him to a “leadership” position in the Army much less any ounce of integrity. He’s another political appointee whose allegiance is to himself, his career, and his democrat sponsors.


9 posted on 05/16/2014 7:56:56 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Night Hides Not

Saying they take responsibility is supposed to protect them from actually being held responsible.

That is how DC works these days.


10 posted on 05/16/2014 7:57:53 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: george76

I think Shinseki’s the guy who, when he was Chief of Staff, decided all soldiers in the Army should be able to wear the black beret...y’know, cuz it’s not fair that only the elite get to look dashing.

Sheesh.


11 posted on 05/16/2014 7:58:32 AM PDT by jagusafr (the American Trinity (Liberty, In G0D We Trust, E Pluribus Unum))
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To: george76

For them, saying “I’m responsible” is almost the same thing as them saying they were ... wrong. How much more could anyone possibly expect from such perfect creatures!?


12 posted on 05/16/2014 7:59:20 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: george76
Eric Shinseki’s Meaningless Claim That He ‘Takes Responsibility’

TAKING RESPONSIBILITY MEANS IMMEDIATELY MAKING THINGS RIGHT, RESIGNING, OR GETTING FIRED!

It's not rocket science.
But the explanation is simple.
Stonewalling...
Lying...

Rot always starts at the head and works its way down.
And after it begins...
It's never reversible.

13 posted on 05/16/2014 7:59:35 AM PDT by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good grace to resign!)
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To: george76
Jake Tapper:

‘How Many Dead Veterans Do You Need?

14 posted on 05/16/2014 8:00:39 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: House Atreides
Sure!

THEY take responsibility, but OTHER people pay the price for their actions. Just like Hillary takes responsibility for Benghazi, but Amb. Stevens pays the price (via "smoke inhalation").

15 posted on 05/16/2014 8:05:12 AM PDT by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement!)
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To: jagusafr

He’s little different from one of the many other self-aggrandizing general officers like Former Air Force CoS Merrill Tony McPeak, the “manly man” general who dictated the wear of V-neck Tee-shirts for the force back in the early 90s so that airmen could show their “chest hair” and portray the “manly man” image. He was widely despised and laughed at by even the other general officers. There was great joy and relief when he retired. Sadly that idiot and Shiseki are all too commmon in the military and have been for quite a while.


16 posted on 05/16/2014 8:06:29 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: jagusafr

I thought Shinseki’s decision about the black beret was because that was the color of Monica’s beret.


17 posted on 05/16/2014 8:09:58 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: GeronL
It's just something they say when there's nothing else to be said.

These bureaucrats would be shocked -- shocked!, I say -- if they were ever held accountable for their failures. That's just not the way things are done with "public servants" (though I still hesitate when I include the "l" in "public").

18 posted on 05/16/2014 8:12:00 AM PDT by glennaro
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To: publius911

“Rot always starts at the head and works its way down.
And after it begins...
It’s never reversible.”

The electorate is no longer virtuous and no longer follows God. The leaders reflect the values of the people they serve.


19 posted on 05/16/2014 8:12:33 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: george76
Instead of mocking and criticizing Shinskei, let's all take a moment to learn what he is trying to teach us.

The next time you get a traffic ticket, tell the officer “I take responsibility.” Then throw the ticket away.

The next time you are contacted by the IRS, tell the agent “I take responsibility.” Then ignore all future IRS requests for money.

The next time you are at the airport, shout out loud “I take responsibility.” Then simply bypass the TSA screening area and head out to your plane.

Who would have guessed it could be just that easy?

20 posted on 05/16/2014 8:20:29 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: george76
The only upside to this sordid and criminal veterans scandal is that Shinseki is no longer a general of the U. S. Army....and no longer U.S. Army Chief of Staff. Thank God!

He is a liberal/leftist elitist through and through...and I doubt if he will resign his current sinecure because elitists just don't do that. They consider themselves to be untouchable because they are above the rest of us stupid peons.

Leni

21 posted on 05/16/2014 8:21:49 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: george76
I watched a video of him saying to the committee, "I'm mad as Hell!"

He said it with as much enthusiasm as, "I'd like medium starch with these shirts!"

I couldn't believe that anyone on that committee or in the audience even, didn't break out laughing their socks off!

22 posted on 05/16/2014 8:33:20 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: Night Hides Not
Off, OFF, Damned Sarcasm!!!

Reminds me of

Begone Italians!

For those that don't remember we used to have a problem with italics being turned on by a poster who did not close them, which caused italics to be on for all the subsequent posters.

23 posted on 05/16/2014 8:42:29 AM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: jagusafr
I think Shinseki’s the guy who, when he was Chief of Staff, decided all soldiers in the Army should be able to wear the black beret...

He is also the moron who called for the Army to dump it's tanks and return to armored cars, taking the Army back to WWI capability.

Regards,
GtG

24 posted on 05/16/2014 8:43:54 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: jagusafr

“I think Shinseki’s the guy who, when he was Chief of Staff, decided all soldiers in the Army should be able to wear the black beret...y’know, cuz it’s not fair that only the elite get to look dashing.”

Never trust anyone from Hawaii! It’s mostly a Japanese outpost of socialist/marxists. The Japanese outnumber the real Hawaiians by a wide margin. Just look at who’s running the government outside of their nutgall governor, who was born in Buffalo, NY (another westward migrating Commie who passed us by in California).


25 posted on 05/16/2014 8:48:33 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: george76
Gen. Mc Arthur said it best ...duty, honor, country and Shinseki hasn't done his duty and out of honor should resign for for the good of the country and the failures on his watch. The VA is a mess and has been for decades. The fossilized bureaucracies that run the VA need to cleaned out. However, as we have found out with the likes of Lois Lerner, it s next to impossible to fire these federal workers regardless of how they have failed in their jobs or even broken the law.

If Obama had any leadership he would have summarily fired the VA head in Phoenix and other VA centers when their wrong doing came to light. In private industry any employee that screwed up like this would quickly lose their job. Remember Reagan and the air traffic controllers?

26 posted on 05/16/2014 8:48:43 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Izzy Dunne
And move on to replace Sebelius at HHS or Lerner at IRS

Yes, and not to mention the bogus POTUS.

27 posted on 05/16/2014 9:05:22 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: george76

It’s a convenient semantic trick, meant to give the appearance of being responsible without being responsible.

It smacks of the Albert Speer defense at the Nuremberg Trials, wherein he “took responsibility” as the Minister of Armamentsfor the slave labor and attending death toll in his war factories without actually admitting that he had any role in, or knowledge of, the policy at all.

It got him a 20-year sentence; Shinseki should get no less.


28 posted on 05/16/2014 11:15:13 AM PDT by DPMD
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