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State Dept. Official: ‘Just Not Accurate’ to Characterize Boko Haram as Muslim
PJ Media ^ | May 15, 2014 | Bridget Johnson

Posted on 05/16/2014 11:00:18 AM PDT by xzins

A State Department official told a Senate hearing on terrorism in Nigeria this morning that “Boko Haram is trying to portray its philosophy as being a Muslim philosophy, and that’s just not accurate.”

Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on African Affairs Chairman Chris Coons (D-Del.) referenced a hearing that he held two years ago, in which lawmakers learned that Boko Haram was training with Al-Shabaab and al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb in an area the size of Texas.

“The hearing that we conducted two years ago could almost literally be repeated today in terms of ongoing structural challenges that have led to this insurgency and have created the conditions and sustained, and in some ways accelerated, the conditions for Boko Haram,” Coons said.

Ambassador Robert Jackson, principal deputy assistant secretary of state for African affairs, stood in on the panel of witnesses for Assistant Secretary for African Affairs Linda Thomas-Greenfield, who was reportedly traveling. Thomas-Greenfield acknowledged to a House panel last November that while Boko Haram has a “religious bent to what they do, they are non-discriminating in their attacks on people.”

“We join the world, the people of Nigeria and the parents of these children in expressing our outrage at Boko Haram’s shocking acts and its perverse ideology,” Jackson said. “This tragic kidnapping calls us to redouble our efforts to defeat a malicious terrorist organization that has troubled Nigeria for more than a decade.”

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) questioned Jackson about whether the administration is properly characterizing the threat.

“Is the prime motivator here of this instance, in your opinion — is the prime motivator the desire to deny young women access to education and empowerment?” Rubio asked.

“Senator, I actually think the prime motivator is to raise more funds for Boko Haram through ransom,” Jackson replied. “However, the fact that Boko Haram opposes Western education is certainly a reason why these girls were targeted.”

“Can I suggest that I think there’s another motivation that’s not getting nearly enough attention, and that is that this is clearly motivated by an anti-Christian attitude of this group,” Rubio continued, citing “a grotesque statement” from Boko Haram leader Abubakar Shekau: “It is either you are with jahideen, or you’re with the Christians. We know what is happening in this world. It is a jihad war against Christians and Christianity. It is a war against Western education, democracy and constitution… This is what I know in Quran. This is a war against Christians and democracy and their constitution. Allah says we should finish them when we get them.”

“I don’t think there’s any doubt about what’s motivating them,” Rubio said. “One of their leading motivators here is this is not simply — and there’s no doubt that this is a part of it, but this is not just about girls going to school and it’s not just about raising money. There is a strong anti-Christian element of this organization and of this activity. Am I right in saying that?”

“Senator, there is a strong anti-Christian element, but I would offer that more of the thousands of people who have died as a result of Boko Haram’s activities are Muslim than Christian,” Jackson said.

Rubio stressed “we should not ignore the fact that there is a religious persecution aspect of this that is very significant and deserves attention, especially in light of what we are seeing not just in this part of the world but multiple areas of the world, where we are seeing horrifying instances of religious persecution against Christians, which, in my opinion, has been underreported.”

“Senator, I respectfully suggest while anti-Christian sentiment is a strong motivator, the fact of the matter is that Boko Haram is trying to portray its philosophy as being a Muslim philosophy, and that’s just not accurate,” Jackson said.

“I’m not claiming that this is somehow driven by legitimate teachings of Islam. What I’m arguing is that there is a strong anti-Christian element to this and that it is part of a broader anti-Christian persecution that we are seeing repeatedly throughout the world. Would you disagree with that statement?” the senator asked.

“I do not disagree, but I continue to want to emphasize that Boko Haram terrorizes all people,” the State Department official responded.

Jackson said about 85 percent of the more than 200 teens taken from the Chibok secondary school are Christian. Nigeria’s population includes about about 60 million Protestants and 20 million Catholics, according to Pew.

Rubio stressed that a crime against Muslims “is no less worse or less bad than a crime against Christians.”

“What I’m trying to put aside — what I’m trying to put forward here is that we cannot continue to ignore that persecution of Christians is a leading motivator not just of what’s happening in Boko Haram but in other parts of the world, as well, but in this specific instance, they are clearly motivated by anti-Christian attitudes and anti-Christian beliefs,” he said. “And I don’t think that’s even debatable, given their very own statement.”

Shekau boasted in a recent video that the schoolgirls had been forced to convert to Islam.

“These girls, these girls you occupy yourselves with… we have indeed liberated them. These girls have become Muslims,” the terror leader said.


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KEYWORDS: 2016election; bokoharam; christianpersecution; election2016; globalistrunsos; hillaryclinton; hitlery; infiltrated; islam; islamofascist; rop; sorostool; statedept; terrorism
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I guess that means it's Rotarian.
1 posted on 05/16/2014 11:00:18 AM PDT by xzins
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To: xzins

Freakin’ Amish. When are those psychos ever gonna stop?


2 posted on 05/16/2014 11:02:37 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: xzins

Boko Haram is actually dedicated to the worship of Odin.

They are actually a long lost colony of Norsemen.


3 posted on 05/16/2014 11:02:57 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: xzins
Yet, they released the muslim girls and enslaved the Christian ones. Yeah! I got it!/s
4 posted on 05/16/2014 11:03:01 AM PDT by Know et al (No one has ever choked to death on a raw oyster.)
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To: xzins

#ReligonOfLove


5 posted on 05/16/2014 11:03:38 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: xzins

Bless the State Department’s little hearts and their blindness.


6 posted on 05/16/2014 11:03:38 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: xzins

Toastmasters International


7 posted on 05/16/2014 11:04:00 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: xzins

Then they must be Methodists, I suppose.


8 posted on 05/16/2014 11:04:05 AM PDT by dainbramaged (Don't tell me, I'll tell you.)
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To: xzins
State Dept. Official: ‘Just Not Accurate’ to Characterize Boko Haram as Muslim

Then why did they claim that 150 of the kidnapped girls were converted to Islam? Liberals need to be removed from every office in the government immediately; this comment is beyond dangerously stupid.

9 posted on 05/16/2014 11:04:19 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: xzins

If it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck........


10 posted on 05/16/2014 11:04:21 AM PDT by super7man
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To: rjsimmon

Amish pictures requested

How about Menno-fascism? Could it be that long simmering dress code war between the Amish and the Mennonites!


11 posted on 05/16/2014 11:04:53 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins
There is a strong anti-Christian element of this organization

They're just mainstream liberals.

12 posted on 05/16/2014 11:05:11 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: rjsimmon

13 posted on 05/16/2014 11:06:55 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins
Chris Coons (D-Del.)
My God, even the man's name is racist.
14 posted on 05/16/2014 11:07:09 AM PDT by Tupelo (I feel more like Philip Nolan every day)
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To: xzins

I gather from this that it is OK for Boko Haram to act as it is doing and must be understood.
After all, they seem to be NON-DISCRIMINATORY and EQUAL OPPORTUNITY butchers, kidnappers, church burners, village destroyers and retailers of young girls while they avoid any semblance of BIGOTRY.
If this is the attitude of the United States Department of State, it is not the USA alone in dire peril.
It is the entire, complete, whole thing world.


15 posted on 05/16/2014 11:07:35 AM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf (NY TIMES: We print the news as it fits our views.)
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16 posted on 05/16/2014 11:09:20 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: xzins
No True Scotsman is a logical fallacy by which an individual attempts to avoid being associated with an unpleasant act by asserting that no true member of the group they belong to would do such a thing. Instead of acknowledging that some members of a group have undesirable characteristics, the fallacy tries to redefine the group to exclude them.
17 posted on 05/16/2014 11:09:50 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

No true sharia compliant muslim would be sharia compliant


18 posted on 05/16/2014 11:13:09 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

Chris Coons???

That’s racist!


19 posted on 05/16/2014 11:14:01 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: xzins

They are either following the teachings of Islam or Islam doesn’t believe in the teachings of Mohamed.

Which is it?


20 posted on 05/16/2014 11:14:02 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: xzins

“more of the thousands of people who have died as a result of Boko Haram’s activities are Muslim than Christian,”

Oh, and sunni muzzies never fight/kill shiite muzzies? Deflection on that guy’s part! Look! A photon! BS!


21 posted on 05/16/2014 11:14:39 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Common Sense 101

There are only 4 true muslims in the USA and they are NBC news contributors. The remaining billion are all shysters!


22 posted on 05/16/2014 11:14:40 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

I wonder if that same Obama Administration official would agree with the following statement: “The Ku Klux Klan is trying to portray its philosophy as being a Christian philosophy, and that’s just not accurate.”


23 posted on 05/16/2014 11:15:32 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: WayneS
“The Ku Klux Klan is trying to portray its philosophy as being a Christian philosophy, and that’s just not accurate.”

The Obama Administration, the liberal media, and liberal academia are all trying to portray the KKK's philosophy as being a Christian philosophy." Wonder if they'll agree that's not accurate.

24 posted on 05/16/2014 11:17:40 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

THAT explains it!

I could have sworn I saw my Uncle Sven in the background of one of the photos of that Boko Haram leader.

Good ol’ Uncle Sven. He always was a little crazy...


25 posted on 05/16/2014 11:18:14 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: xzins
This is blindness to the point of insanity or collaboration actually enabling more Muslim atrocities.
26 posted on 05/16/2014 11:18:45 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: xzins

Everything is seen through the distorted lens of political necessity. Muslims have nothing to do with terrorism. Global warming is the most important issue before us and all the study necessary has already proven the disasters that will ensue if we don’t stop producing CO2. Obamacare has solved America’s healthcare inequalities. Whites and white privilege are responsible for all the perceived inequities in America. Capitalism is the worst terrorist activity. And on we go.


27 posted on 05/16/2014 11:21:44 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: xzins
Senator, there is a strong anti-Christian element, but I would offer that more of the thousands of people who have died as a result of Boko Haram’s activities are Muslim than Christian,” Jackson said.

Of course the fundamental Muslims are killing other so-called Muslims, who are in practice Infidel Collaborators

Boko Haaram has to hate those people who profess to be Muslims but won't take up the sword against us despicable Infidels.
Those slackers are traitors to Islam and should be treated as if they were Infidels.
In some respects they are worse-they try to spread Infidel lifestyle and ideas amongst the other Muslims.
No fundamental Muslim is going to put up with obvious traitors to Islam in their midst. That's why so many "moderate Muslims" get killed.- Tom

28 posted on 05/16/2014 11:23:09 AM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse U.S. citizens and Americans. They are not necessarily the same. -tom)
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To: xzins

Even a conservative president would have trouble trying to clean out the career vermin in the State Department.


29 posted on 05/16/2014 11:24:25 AM PDT by Zuse (I am disrupted! I am offended! I am insulted! I am outraged!)
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To: xzins

Shriners ?


30 posted on 05/16/2014 11:25:32 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: xzins

a fine example of why we are in such deep doo-doo


31 posted on 05/16/2014 11:25:47 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: xzins

Rubio is one of the few who really goes after this and keeps calling attention to the anti-Christian agenda of this administration.

I sure hope one of the top priorities of whoever gets elected in 2016 is to completely clean the Islamists out of the State Dept.


32 posted on 05/16/2014 11:27:06 AM PDT by livius
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
The State Deptmt has obviously mistaken:

FOR


33 posted on 05/16/2014 11:28:47 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: MrB

Thanks for posting this definition.

Interesting that Jackson arrogates to herself the right to decide who is and is not a “true Muslim.” The actual Muslims involved apparently aren’t capable of making such choices.

You know, I could make similar claims about men who murder and rape. They aren’t “really men” by my definition, so men don’t commit such acts.


34 posted on 05/16/2014 11:29:59 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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Islam is a war plan.


35 posted on 05/16/2014 11:31:04 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: xzins
The Congregation of the People of Tradition for Proselytism and Jihad (Jama'atu Ahlis Sunna Lidda'awati Wal-Jihad), known by its Hausa name Boko Haram (pronounced [bōːkòː hàrâm]; figuratively meaning "Western education is sin", is a militant organization based in the northeast of Nigeria, north Cameroon and Niger. Founded by Mohammed Yusuf in 2002, the organization seeks to establish a "pure" Islamic state ruled by sharia, putting a stop to what it deems Westernization. A study of the the International Center for Counter-Terrorism analyzes the drivers of public support to five reasons. Emergence and Emancipation for northern Nigeria, political interests and elite exploitation, poverty and under-development, the religion as opium for the masses, and transnational drivers like foreign fighters and fire-arms.

AQ has killed many more Muslims than Christians, but that doesn't change their ultimate objective and purpose for being. How stupid do these people think we are.

36 posted on 05/16/2014 11:35:44 AM PDT by kabar
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To: xzins
The State department is full of spineless liars. Diplomats are just skilled liars. Their use of innuendo, nuance and intimidation is nauseating. That said, "boko haram" is a typical Islamic organization. They subscribe to kidnap, slavery, intimidation and murder to oppress their victims into Islam. Islam prescribes multiple forms of lying...taqqiya, kitman, tawriya and muruna. The state department engages in muruna. They hide who they are and cover up for Islamic misdeeds whenever possible. I'm not feeling diplomatic today.
37 posted on 05/16/2014 11:39:34 AM PDT by Myrddin
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I guess that means it's Rotarian.

The Regime is merely recognizing that the political winds have shifted in an ugly direction.

38 posted on 05/16/2014 11:40:05 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Sherman Logan

This is what our “leaders” have been doing since 9/11.

Someone must have convinced Bush that it wasn’t a good idea to imply we were going to war with Islam.


39 posted on 05/16/2014 11:42:33 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: xzins

Enemy inside the gates. Does Rubio have any idea how big he would become if he would pin this mealy mouth to the damned wall!?


40 posted on 05/16/2014 11:54:22 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: xzins
The proper follow up question by Senator Rubio should have been..

"In that case, do you believe that it is accurate to describe Al-Qaeda's philosophy as a Muslim one?"

and then this....

"Why do you claim to understand the true philosophy of Islam better than the leaders of Boko Hiram and Al-Qaeda? Have you studied the Koran more than they have"

41 posted on 05/16/2014 11:57:58 AM PDT by nitzy
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THERE ya go!


42 posted on 05/16/2014 12:03:00 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: MrB

If so, that was good advice.

You don’t declare war, even informally, on 1.2B people if you can avoid it.

Even if it’s a transparent political ploy, a legal fiction that Islam itself is not the problem can be useful.

That should not, of course, blind us to the fact that it very largely is the problem and should not impact our actual strategy and tactics.

It appears that many of our political and possibly even military leaders have fully bought into our legal and diplomatic fiction, which is really, really stupid.

You should never start believing your own propaganda.


43 posted on 05/16/2014 12:15:15 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Actually, I don’t think they believe their nonsense about Islam,

but are actually in support of Islam as an anti-Christian movement.


44 posted on 05/16/2014 12:16:27 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: xzins

See? They’re not Muslim.

Later, Obamugabe and his thugs will get to define what “Christian” means, too...and that’ll be anything John Shelby Spong says along with that homosexual Episcopal bishop whose false marriage just ended in false divorce.


45 posted on 05/16/2014 12:40:25 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

These communist traitors in wdc sure seem to believe that everyone else is an idiot. These degenerates in wdc need brought to Justice.


46 posted on 05/16/2014 12:42:33 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: xzins

Then call him Muslim trash.


47 posted on 05/16/2014 12:46:23 PM PDT by mulligan (I)
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To: MrB

That’s indisputably true of many liberals and leftists.

However, I think their bête noire is wider than Christianity.

They hate and despise all Western Civilization, with of course America, capitalism and Christianity in many ways the most visible symbols of that civilization.

Christianity, of course, is the foundation of Western Civ. But we could all become atheists tomorrow, and these guys would still hate the rest of Western Civ.


48 posted on 05/16/2014 12:55:00 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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‘BH ain’t Muslims’

Comrades, this is glorious news! We must stream from our offices, factories and homes carrying banners praising Comrade Obama and the Inner Parties for their wise leadership and our new, happy lives ...


49 posted on 05/16/2014 12:55:12 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Sherman Logan

We’ll never know for sure,

but I would assert that the flipside is the real truth.

They hate Western Civ because it is based on God’s moral Law.

I wonder if they’ll realize what they’ve lost when we’re all gone.


50 posted on 05/16/2014 1:00:58 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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