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President Obama’s big carbon crackdown readies for launch
Politico.com ^ | 5/16/2014 | ERICA MARTINSON

Posted on 05/16/2014 8:56:06 PM PDT by rktman

The EPA’s proposed rule is aimed at scaling back carbon emissions from existing power plants, the nation’s largest source of greenhouse gases. It’s scheduled for a public rollout June 2, after months of efforts by the administration to publicize the mounting scientific evidence that rising seas, melting glaciers and worsening storms pose a danger to human society.

“This rule is the most significant climate action this administration will take,” said Kyle Aarons at the Center for Climate and Energy Solutions, one of a host of groups awaiting the rule’s release. Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.) has urged the EPA to “go ahead boldly” with the rule, saying the agency must step in where Congress has refused to act.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agw; algorisms; climate; ecowackbama; energy; gangreen; obamunists; waroncoal
Cha ching goes the energy costs. We'll all be needin' some govt assistance. Oh, wait. It's our money. Doh! Uh, can't someone defund these asshats? Pillow scream starting to bubble up!
1 posted on 05/16/2014 8:56:06 PM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

What did the EPA finally rule on the pending penalty fine for the HUGE Carbon Footprint left by Barry Soetoro’s private Corporate Jet, Air Force One?


2 posted on 05/16/2014 9:01:00 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Graewoulf

Well duh. No harm, no foul. It’s the “won” after all.


3 posted on 05/16/2014 9:04:31 PM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: rktman

I can remember the Dems trying to impeach Reagan for violating one of their crazy laws during Iran-Contra. Our pubbies are so toothless. They have to be in on the scam.


4 posted on 05/16/2014 9:06:44 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: Graewoulf

As you know, Harrison Ford is a suporter, but he offended me, so avoid offending me, and support me on the carbon tax. I have Jabba on my speed dial. You know him as Harry Reid.
5 posted on 05/16/2014 9:07:57 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: rktman
Our Gov setup with rule makers give the elected class deniability.
It's killing our Economy, Killing our Economy, Killing our Economy!
6 posted on 05/16/2014 9:10:41 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: rktman

Are you implying that Algore will not petition the EPA to fine BHO in accordance WITH THE TRANSPARENT DICTATES of the Democrat Laws of the Land: THE FAIRNESS ACT, and THE CARBON INEQUALITY ACT?

Shocking!!


7 posted on 05/16/2014 9:11:38 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: rktman
Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.) has urged the EPA to “go ahead boldly” with the rule, saying the agency must step in where Congress has refused to act.

Congress doesn't have to act.

The courts have found that under the existing Clean Air Act, the EPA can regulate CO2.

So like so much of what's going on in America today, an idiotic prior Congress, liberal courts, and a commie administration, does the trick.

8 posted on 05/16/2014 9:13:11 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: rktman

DNC Chair Wasserman Schultz: The Democrat Carbon Tax Is Coming (Video)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/3156666/posts


9 posted on 05/16/2014 9:14:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: rktman

How does granting amnesty to tens of million sof low carbon illegals, help reduce the US’s carbon footprint?

That alone how fake their concern for warming is.


10 posted on 05/16/2014 9:18:04 PM PDT by NoLibZone (The bad news: Hillary Clinton will be the next President. The Good news: Our principles are intact.)
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To: rktman
I believe Sen. Thune is acting on something to counteract this.

Don't know the details.

11 posted on 05/16/2014 9:21:23 PM PDT by what's up (su)
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To: rktman

Why is it that greenhouse gases are good for growing plants, yet not good for us ?

I have never seen anyone have any problem breathing while in a greenhouse.

The Earth is a giant greenhouse. Why should it not have greenhouse gases ?

Saying that C02 is out of control and affecting the temperature of the planet is like saying you can get passed out drunk on one sip of Miller Lite.


12 posted on 05/16/2014 9:26:34 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: rktman
This is just another cog in the scheme to ensure TEA party voters are as impoverished as possible before the midterms, because the Dems and GOPe have enough shadow donors to load the war chests for their guys.

The Looting of America continues...

13 posted on 05/16/2014 9:30:27 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: rktman

“Obama’s Big...Crackdown”

Is this another thread about that photo of Obama with his behind on the counter at that burger joint?


14 posted on 05/16/2014 9:33:04 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: MaxMax

“He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.”

Sorry - just posted this as well on the Internet 51 Regulators thread.


15 posted on 05/16/2014 9:35:51 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: rktman

Wait until the dumbass low information types find out how much this is going to cost them. Fools.


16 posted on 05/16/2014 9:38:09 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

They’ll blame the higher costs on “greedy” power companies just like they did with Obamacare and the health insurance companies... With these people regulation never increases costs - only greedy companies and those greedy companies need to be regulated further if not completely taken over by government so that it is “fair”...


17 posted on 05/16/2014 9:50:08 PM PDT by DB
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To: rktman

The largest source of greenhouse gases comes from Obama’s
pie hole.


18 posted on 05/16/2014 10:30:00 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: rktman
I've been warning people that The Crazy People are in charge...

Just remember - the government doesn't have to eat its own cooking.

19 posted on 05/16/2014 10:43:31 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: rktman

“can’t someone defund these asshats?”

yes ... US

stop working as much as you can. spend as little as possible. remove as much money from the system as you can

your wallet is the only power you have. including withholding it


20 posted on 05/16/2014 10:45:26 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Luke21
I can remember the Dems trying to impeach Reagan for violating one of their crazy laws during Iran-Contra. Our pubbies are so toothless. They have to be in on the scam.

The government doesn't eat its own cooking. It eats Wagyu steak. Shut up, and pay.

21 posted on 05/16/2014 10:46:20 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: sten; rktman
stop working as much as you can. spend as little as possible. remove as much money from the system as you can

your wallet is the only power you have. including withholding it

Starve those monkeys...

22 posted on 05/16/2014 10:48:23 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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These scumbags MUST be voted out of office!


23 posted on 05/16/2014 11:58:39 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

Keep dreaming.

Tyrants cannot be voted out of office - fact of history.

They can only be removed by force or the threat of force.

And the Ruling Class have nothing whatsoever to fear - so they act as tyrants do… with impunity.


24 posted on 05/17/2014 12:11:14 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: rktman

Climate/carbon ping


25 posted on 05/17/2014 1:13:45 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: MUDDOG

Congress can act. It can immediately rescind all or most funding for the EPA.

Sounds like the votes are there, even in the Senate. Put it to the vote and make Manchin, Landreau, et al., vote.

Boehner and McConnell and Rinos won’t do this, because, despite the verbal protests, they are in on it.


26 posted on 05/17/2014 3:01:05 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: rktman

Nails will be driven into our coffin at an alarming rate before the november elections to do as much damage as possible. We need the gallows set up behind the white hut


27 posted on 05/17/2014 3:01:49 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: rktman

Ironic there is a PEPCO coal fired electrical power plant about 2 miles from the US Capitol building. Coal cars line the railroad tracks in DC.


28 posted on 05/17/2014 3:35:35 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: rktman

Take a glance at the story. At no point does it say what the rule would actually require. Nor does it tell how many plants may close or what the cost impacts are likely to be. Par for the course for modern “reporting.”


29 posted on 05/17/2014 4:22:27 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: ronnie raygun

OK!! Everybody pay attention!

Lesson for today:

1. The sun is 1,300,000 times as big as the earth.

2. The sun is a ball of fire that controls the climates of all its planets.

3. The earth is one of the sun’s planets.

4. The earth is a speck in comparison to the size of the sun.

5. Inhabitants of the earth are less than specks.

Study Question: How do less-than-specks in congress plan to control the sun?


30 posted on 05/17/2014 5:29:59 AM PDT by abclily
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To: DB
Worse yet, power plants are not private (thank you, FDR) and are controlled by Public Utility Commissions (PUC's - pronounced "pukes").

As such, they so really don't care about costs because they don't have to.

ObamaCare has turned private health insurance into PUC's as well.

31 posted on 05/17/2014 5:39:12 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Historians will refer to this administration as "The Half-Black Plague.")
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To: rktman

32 posted on 05/17/2014 5:57:45 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: ReaganGeneration2; MUDDOG
I don't mean to criticize you but the EPA is only and administrative agency, within the executive branch. The executive branch/EPA executes/administrates the legislation/laws that Congress enacts. In this case the Clean Air Act.

There were environmental laws before there was an EPA, they were administered by other agencies. EPA was created because environmental laws and regs were expanding.

Just like BLM administrates the Federal Land and Policy Management Act, which was enacted by Congress in 1976.

Just like Congress enacted the Occupational Health and Safety Act and the Occupational Health and Safety Administration was created the to administer the Act.

You can do away with these agencies but the laws/legislation are still on the books.

And as often is the case, disputes arise as to how the agency interpretes the legislation and/or how they administer the regulations so lawsuits arise and the courts adjudicate and change/clarify.

As Muddog pointed out, SCOTUS ruled that CO2 was a pollutant and told EPA to investigate the risk/threat of CO2 and if necessary, regulate CO2 within the Clean Air Act.

Both Bush and Obama pushed Congress to pre-empt the president and enact legislation regulating CO2. In 2008 Congress had the big debate and Cap and Trade won out over Cap and Tax. They tried to enact cap and trade in 2009 but that failed so the Senate tried a scaled back version in 2010 but that also failed, after which EPA moved forward first on new facilities and as yet existing facilities.

33 posted on 05/17/2014 6:22:13 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: rktman

When there is a conservative president, he is going to need to appoint a “hatchet-man” cabinet, to facilitate the downgrade of all these out of control agencies.

The conservative congress will need to pass a law about dismissing federal employees, since likely hundreds of thousands of them will need to be dismissed (out of about 2.7 million (non-military) of them.) Since it is easier to close an entire branch of an agency than to dismiss individually, they will probably use this route. They might even transfer deadwood to a branch that is to be closed.

And each cabinet officer will also be tasked in discerning and rooting out those agency employees who abused their authority, so that they can be banned from future government employment, or non-retirement benefits.

And congress will also need to carry out reforms of the federal judiciary, both to reorganize and purge the below average federal judges.


34 posted on 05/17/2014 6:58:54 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: ReaganGeneration2
even in the Senate. Put it to the vote

I hope Harry Reid goes along with your good suggestion!

35 posted on 05/17/2014 7:03:02 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: rktman

Universal American de-industrialization.


36 posted on 05/17/2014 7:03:05 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: Ben Ficklin
Very informative post!

You've filled in a lot of the details I didn't know. And that's where the devil usually is.

37 posted on 05/17/2014 7:08:41 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: INVAR

You are so right. When they had a couple million folks marching on DC, that would’ve been the time to use force, NOT show them how many people can “beg” to be heard (”Can you hear us now?” “Um, yeah, but we don’t care”). Send new folks - I don’t care how clean they appear to be - into DC, and they’ll be absorbed into the corrupted system within one term. We don’t need any new laws - we have basic laws that can cover any circumstance now - so why are they there? They can stay home and do govt biz via video once per year and the locals can keep their eye on them.


38 posted on 05/17/2014 2:06:33 PM PDT by MaggiesPitchfork
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To: Ben Ficklin

Good point. The endeavor would be difficult, as Ted Cruz found out. But the power of the purse wielded by the House is real - or we cease to have any chance of freedom. If the agency is starved for money, they can’t administer anything, harrass anyone, or determine any wrongdoing.


39 posted on 05/18/2014 8:23:24 PM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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