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Snow In May In Chicago: This Is Not A Joke
chicago.cbslocal.com ^ | 5/16/2014 | John Dodge

Posted on 05/16/2014 9:00:35 PM PDT by rktman

Residents of the north suburbs woke up to light snow on Friday, the first time it has snowed in Chicago in May in nearly 10 years.

Snow was falling in Hoffman Estates and Deerfield around 7:30 a.m. Snow was also reported on cars in the western suburbs.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: ecowackos; gangreen; globalcooling; manbearpig; weather
Obvious evidence of the lyin'king's glow-bull warming. Better shut down them coal plants real quick.
1 posted on 05/16/2014 9:00:35 PM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

WRONG, for the following reasons:

1.) IF we assume that CO2 is the root problem to Global Warming and Climate Change, THEN consider what would happen if atmospheric CO2 were, somehow, to be eliminated:

The process of Photosynthesis, defined chemically as follows:

6CO2 + 6H2O + (n)photons = C6H12O6 + 6CO2

would cease to generate carbohydrates, (C6H12O6), for most plants and the animals that eat the plants and eat the animals that eat the plants.

2.) To the best of my research, there has never been a cause and effect experiment that establishes that a change* in the concentration of CO2 has had a measurable effect on the temperature of the air.
*Note: at atmospheric concentrations of CO2 approximating maximum to minimum living conditions for most plants.

3.) All known published speculations on the effect of CO2 on temperature are based on the false assumption, as proven by # 2 above, that there is a measurable effect of the change in atmospheric concentration of CO2 on the temperature of the atmosphere.


2 posted on 05/16/2014 9:05:32 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: rktman

Yeah, we’ve been having an unseasonable amount of white global warming land on my neck ‘o Colorado this spring. In fact, we now have another casualty of Global Warming here in Colorado: we’ve had to say goodbye to the Front Range rule of thumb that it’s safe to plant your tomatoes after Mother’s Day.

Since Global Warming has been making everything so unseasonably cold, I’m kind of hoping for some Global Cooling to warm things up a bit.


3 posted on 05/16/2014 9:09:58 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Graewoulf

CO2 is the limiting reactant in photosynthesis, so it goes to reason that we could have a reasonable rise in atmospheric CO2.and slightly improve an aspect of plant growth.


4 posted on 05/16/2014 9:10:30 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: rktman

We had snow on Mother’s Day in 2000.


5 posted on 05/16/2014 9:11:48 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: rktman

It’s because glow-bull warming has NOT reached that far south. It’s still busy melting the polar ice caps. Be patient, it will get there in due time. But to be safe they should go ahead and issue flood warnings.


6 posted on 05/16/2014 9:12:29 PM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's a whole 'nother country.)
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To: rktman

The bottom line IMO is: God knows when it will be hot; and when it will be cold.

The wisdom of man is foolishness with God!

God created the heaven and earth, only he can destroy it.

Now that is an offense to many.


7 posted on 05/16/2014 9:13:48 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Morpheus2009

Charlie Chan say:

“Maybe skies stay blue,
But Green go away
When CO2 not come
Out to play.”


8 posted on 05/16/2014 9:15:31 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: rktman

Mayor Rahm Emmanuel was walking and hit some ice and fell onto a snowy lawn where he was thrashing around to get back up. A wino saw him and yelled, “Quit trying to make snow-jackasses and get up and run some red lights!”


9 posted on 05/16/2014 9:17:38 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: mass55th

I remember this storm in 1977 like it was yesterday.

Trees,loaded with leaves,were falling all over the place because of the weight of the snow..We lost one.

http://www.easternuswx.com/bb/index.php?%2Ftopic%2F133901-may-9-10-1977-snow-event-map-nypanew-england%2F.

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10 posted on 05/16/2014 9:22:07 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Graewoulf; rktman

Graewoulf, does this sound about right?

Fact: CO2 emissions per year = 30 billion tons

Fact: The atmosphere = 5 quadrillion tons

30 billion / 5 quadrillion = 0.000005%

Conclusion: The GLOBAL total of CO2 emissions per year is equivalent to 5 ten millionths of one percent of the total atmosphere.

Fact: CO2 emissions per year = 30 billion tons

Fact: Current CO2 percentage of atmosphere = 0.0397%

Fact: The atmosphere = 5 quadrillion tons

.0397% of 5 quadrillion = 198.5 trillion tons of CO2 currently in the atmosphere.

30 billion / 198.5 trillion = 0.00015%

Conclusion: The GLOBAL total of CO2 emissions per year is equivalent to 15 hundred thousandths of one percent of the total carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.

Moral: No matter what the warmers tell you, peeing in Lake Superior will NOT make the lake warmer.


11 posted on 05/16/2014 9:22:41 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

LOL! But, it could make it saltier. :>}


12 posted on 05/16/2014 9:23:39 PM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: Graewoulf
The ignorance is astounding! Stuck on stupid!

Send these poor brainwashed people to a good geology class.

Someone who has had physics or another science affording the answer to this question, help me out.

Some of the furor is over certain glaciers breaking up. I know that has happened before in geological time and other glaciers have grown back. This was in a time before man made carbons.

My question is this. In my freezer, I notice ice cubes left in for weeks or months shrink and become crumbly. Isn't that a minute example of what happens to glaciers--eventually they desiccate and crumble because the moisture seeps out of them.

Isn't this what happens to glaciers over time and what is it called?

Just had a horrible thought--IS GLOBAL WARMING HAPPENING IN MY FREEZER?/s

vaudine

13 posted on 05/16/2014 9:28:18 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: PoloSec

“Now that is an offense to many.”

Not to me, and many here.

Plus...isn’t it just great when He shows his sense of humor?!?


14 posted on 05/16/2014 9:31:45 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: rktman

Ya, froze some of the field corn out last night in the river bottoms, don’t know if it was a killer yet as the growth point above ground has alot to do with it. Fields around here were up 2-5 inches.

Average last frost here is like April 18.

Covered the tomatoes, though.


15 posted on 05/16/2014 9:31:58 PM PDT by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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To: rktman

Just wait till next year!


16 posted on 05/16/2014 9:38:07 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: rktman

Considering the amount of ire for the Dems by the public, what happens when conservative Pubbies (or even GOP-E) win the popular vote?

What will they do then? Go back to the electoral college?


17 posted on 05/16/2014 9:43:29 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Oops! Wrong thread!


18 posted on 05/16/2014 9:43:52 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: rktman

19 posted on 05/16/2014 9:45:04 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: rktman

20 posted on 05/16/2014 9:52:40 PM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: rktman

I remember getting a foot of snow once in June up in Syracuse... back in 1976. It all melted the next day though.


21 posted on 05/16/2014 10:08:52 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Graewoulf

Bravo! And I’d like to add that CO2 is heavier than air, a fact that most people don’t realize. It doesn’t float up into the atmosphere and create some kind of thermal barrier, but instead hangs down at ground level... for the plants to turn into O2!!! If there’s a surplus plants grow bigger and give off more oxygen! CO2 is as vital to life on earth as is oxygen.


22 posted on 05/16/2014 10:15:36 PM PDT by 3boysdad (The very elect.)
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To: rktman

I remember, when I was a new teen living in the Berkshires of western Mass., it snow 4 inches on June 5th - in 1950...

weather happens.


23 posted on 05/16/2014 10:16:28 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: smoothsailing
I use those same statistics and ask "How will taxing me and reducing my standard of living and that of a majority of mankind affect anything?"
24 posted on 05/16/2014 10:18:19 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where?)
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To: 3boysdad
...for the plants to turn into O2!!! If there’s a surplus plants grow bigger and give off more oxygen! CO2 is as vital to life on earth as is oxygen.

Since the first Surveyor satellite (1968) we've gotten an accurate handle on the percentage of the globe covered by vegetation/forests.

And, guess what, the percentage of the globe covered by forest has measurably increased every year since 1968.

In other words, kudzu is a greater threat than "climate change".

25 posted on 05/16/2014 10:20:42 PM PDT by okie01
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To: One Name

It’s very unusual for it to freeze at mid May. Hope it doesn’t mean we’ll have a cool summer.


26 posted on 05/16/2014 10:21:27 PM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: smoothsailing

Nope. Not even close.

Google, Google Scholar, Yahoo, or Wikipedia the veracity of the following:

Note: Data used are at Standard Conditions of the atmosphere at Sea Level, averaged for 1 or more years to smooth out volcanic eruptions, plant seasonal variations, major storms, etc.

* H2O vapor: ............ 2.5 % .... = 25,000 parts per million of atmosphere

* CO2 (gas phase)...... 0.04 %... = 400 parts per million of atmosphere

* 400+/- ppm CO2 levels occur at intervals of approximately 100,000 years, [Key words: Greenland, Antarctic, Vostok, Ice Core].

* Note on the main source of natural CO2: The Volcanic source of CO2 has recently been linked to H2S and SO2 gas concentrations, so more accurate CO2 Volcanic CO2 volume estimates may improve in the near future. Currently, CO2 measurements are highly variable and sparse.

The airborne suspended life of Natural and man-made CO2 have few data points.

Most published CO2/Temperature speculations are based on statistical inference with untested assumptions.

For example, the most widely used GW and CC computer models have over 200 dependent or independent variables, thus rendering these models impossible to test Scientifically. [Key phrase: junk science.]


27 posted on 05/16/2014 10:21:31 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: 3boysdad

Yup. Google Mammoth Lakes ski area in California, where skiers have died in the CO2 rich depressions.


28 posted on 05/16/2014 10:24:04 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: maine-iac7

Yup. Two years ago, in June, my wife drove through some snow flurries here in Reno.


29 posted on 05/16/2014 10:27:30 PM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: rktman

Years ago I woke up with 6” of snow on top of me in the Sierras on the 4th of July.


30 posted on 05/16/2014 10:32:13 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Kansas58

A new PING.


31 posted on 05/16/2014 10:34:16 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: rktman

Approx. a half inch of snow fell in Richland County, southwestern Wisconsin, on Memorial Day 1947. I saw it.


32 posted on 05/16/2014 10:36:04 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: Graewoulf

That’s just no good without a punchline.


33 posted on 05/16/2014 10:39:47 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: dalereed

That’s why I live so close to them. :>}


34 posted on 05/16/2014 10:44:25 PM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: vaudine

Yup.

My first post on this thread was aimed at the average intellectual maturity of the average American Adult, which is twelve years old.

My second post was at the High School level: “OK class, use the computer to look stuff up, and write a 3 page, single spaced report on the atmosphere.”

Yours is Google Scholar: “What do peer-reviewed, Scientists know and how do they know it?”

Facts are few,
As you will see,
But that has never,
Ever stopped
Our curiosity!


35 posted on 05/16/2014 10:46:33 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Elsiejay

LOL! I was still in the oven about to be hatched. Like within 2 weeks of the snowfall. And, my wife is from Wi. Gotta mean something. :>}


36 posted on 05/16/2014 10:46:39 PM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: clearcarbon
Just wait till next year!<<<

Famous statement about the Red Sox when I was growing up!!

37 posted on 05/16/2014 10:47:13 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: smoothsailing

” - - - That’s just no good without a punchline. - - - “

But I was trying to be series. [Sigh}.


38 posted on 05/16/2014 10:50:31 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: PoloSec

“Now that is an offense to many.”

Not to me. I believe:

GOD is sovereign and in control.

HE doesn’t consult with me before HE does something. :)

But I often consult with HIM for wisdom and guidance.

And I have the hope of eternal life given by the shed blood of Jesus.

Thank you...


39 posted on 05/17/2014 12:51:50 AM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's a whole 'nother country.)
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To: rktman

Chicago snow ping.


40 posted on 05/17/2014 1:12:42 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: catnipman

This year is acting the same as last year.

A period of irregular seasonal cooling. I’m okay with it. Never really had much frost to chill out the crops in my area.

Moderate temperate climate.


41 posted on 05/17/2014 1:20:11 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: rktman

Cold day in hell for Chicago residents.


42 posted on 05/17/2014 3:42:44 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: catnipman

I lost my tomatoes and two flowers last weekend. And maybe a couple of peppers, I haven’t went back to look at them.

It was a total of 8 plants, maybe. Wasn’t worth the effort to cover them, just start over.

But, that was the latest “hard” freeze in the 12 years we have been here. It snowed quite late into May last year, with more “snow” accumulation, but it didn’t have the overnight freeze this past storm had.


43 posted on 05/17/2014 3:49:06 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: rktman
GLOBAL WARMING! I mean . . . GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE! . . . I mean . . . GLOBAL . . . umm . . . umm . . .

Just shut up! It's settled science! Give us your money and OBEY!!!

44 posted on 05/17/2014 3:53:47 AM PDT by airborne (My heroes don't wear capes - My heroes wear dog tags!)
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To: Mears

My wife still talks about that storm. We were recently married, visiting my parents in Mass. at the time.


45 posted on 05/17/2014 5:50:08 AM PDT by ken in texas
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To: rktman

We must act now before it’s too late.


46 posted on 05/17/2014 5:51:10 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: 3boysdad

It’s also my understanding that at different points in time when CO2 level was much higher than it is now,that it occurred during times when it was much warmer & also much colder.


47 posted on 05/17/2014 7:32:08 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: Elsiejay

30 miles from me. I have a photo of snowfall from sometime in May, in the 1980s. It happens.

Here, we don’t plant veggies out until after Memorial Day. Last year, it was nearly the middle of June. I had plants in a greenhouse until then.

We have had two years now where the plants become large, leafy and full of green hard fruit that doesn’t ripen until September, due to a cool spring and late summer with less heat. This year, I decided not to plant any at all. I still have dehydrated tomatoes from last year, nearly a year’s worth, as well as some of last year’s sauce and I can buy an entire summer’s worth of eating tomatoes for under $35 at the Farmer’s Market. An entire year’s worth of tomato sauce is under $50, spread out over 12 months. Last year I had so many green tomatoes,from just 16 plants, that we were eating homemade Salsa Verde until this month.

Normally, the bad winters run in threes. Hopefully, this coming winter will be the third in a row and a mild one will follow.


48 posted on 05/17/2014 8:29:14 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: rktman

Paging ManBearPig to the white courtesy telephone ...


49 posted on 05/17/2014 2:05:42 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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