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Kiev Junta joining AQ?
New Eastern Outlook ^ | Gordon Duff

Posted on 05/17/2014 10:06:27 AM PDT by varmintman

NATO believes they are setting up a base of operations against Russia in the Ukraine. Saudi Arabia is recruiting jihadists from across Europe, with 5000 to be in Ukraine, armed and trained both in Poland and Ukraine, in a month. However, command of this force falls, not to Kiev or even Langley but to the most extreme elements fighting in Syria and Iraq.

NATO and now Saudi Arabia are establishing the Ukraine as a base of operations for Al Qaeda, AQIU (Al Qaeda In Ukraine). Many of those recruited are from veterans of the Syrian war, having survived the infighting between insurgent groups and the onslaught of the Syrian Army....

(Excerpt) Read more at journal-neo.org ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; Syria
KEYWORDS: 911truther; alquaeda; nazism; putinsbuttboys; russia; surrendermonkeys; tedholden; ukraine; varmintspam
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This is the dimmest view of what's going on in Ukraine which I've seen so far and I cannot vouch for it. Nonetheless it amounts to a claim which I'd not seen previously...
1 posted on 05/17/2014 10:06:27 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: varmintman

” Wanta states that [Osama] bin Laden was in “good standing” with the US until his death in December 2013.”

Huh? The SEALs didn’t kill bin Laden.


2 posted on 05/17/2014 10:12:13 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: varmintman

I get the idea someone is setting in an office BSing with his comrades to come up with the most outrageous things they think will panic the West. Except for the Tartars you don’t have an enclave of Muslims that could shelter AQ. I doubt they’d put up with them. You may have a few fringe types like some of the Brits or Americans that thought it was a good idea to go jihading. I doubt Ukrainians got that urge.


3 posted on 05/17/2014 10:13:48 AM PDT by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: varmintman

As a matter of fact I’ve heard this story before. It came from the Iranian state news service, which have stories even more stupid than the national enquirer.


4 posted on 05/17/2014 10:29:58 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
” Wanta states that [Osama] bin Laden was in “good standing” with the US until his death in December 2013.” Huh? The SEALs didn’t kill bin Laden.

a couple possible scenarios:

One: he was no longer an asset - accept as a dead one for the glory of our 'dear leader' (WE knew right where he was all those years.

Two: If you didn't believe that bizarre 'burial at sea' complete with muzzie honors - you might suspicion he was spirited away to some safe location where he lived out his short life expectancy (liver failure) in peace.

And who's investigating the young man, a Prince in his country - reportedly one of Binnie's many many sons - who was present at the Boston Bombing, is the hospital with slight injury - ONLY 'victim" PERSONALLY visited by moochelle - in total press blackout - and quickly spirited out of the country?

WE will never know the working of the REAL gov't the Shadow Gov't

5 posted on 05/17/2014 10:31:44 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: varmintman

New Eastern Outlook is a Russian false propaganda site working for Putin’s government. What is this piece of garbage doing on Freerepublic spewing its wild defamatory lies?


6 posted on 05/17/2014 10:42:29 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: varmintman

Are you suffering invasion withdrawals?


7 posted on 05/17/2014 10:49:08 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (You can't be passive and moral.)
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To: varmintman

This guy and his ‘NEO’ are NUTS.

Here is an example of this guy’s world view

“This isn’t the first time something like this has happened. When four airliners “disappeared” on 9/11 much of what we are seeing today occurred then, but with far less technology being denied and suppressed.
According to Dr’s James Fetzer and Dean Hartwell, planes involved in 9/11 were still flying elsewhere after being listed as having crashed or never took off in the first place. These reports, though backed by verifiable data, were considered wild and suppositional by most but, in light of the Flight 370 debacle, deserve to be reconsidered.”

Seems to me he can join forces with Alex and Jesse.


8 posted on 05/17/2014 11:20:16 AM PDT by Nifster
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9 posted on 05/17/2014 11:24:12 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: WhiskeyX

>> What is this piece of garbage doing on Freerepublic spewing its wild defamatory lies? <<

It seems to me that there have been quite a few of these pro-Putin articles on FR over the past month or two.

Therefore, I’m wondering how many of the pretend-to-be “Freepers” who post this propaganda are actually professional hackers from St. Petersburg, financed lock, stock and barrel by the Russian FSB?


10 posted on 05/17/2014 11:28:53 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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Therefore, I’m wondering how many of the pretend-to-be “Freepers” who post this propaganda are actually professional hackers from St. Petersburg, financed lock, stock and barrel by the Russian FSB?

Most of the people that post this garbage aren't new. We just have a small percentage of folks that have allowed themselves to become Putinista's. It's mostly conspiracy theorist, libertarian types who think this whole thing is a giant EU, Neo-Con (aka Jew) conspiracy having to do with fiat currency, gold reserves, etc, etc. There are also a few social conservatives that are willing to look past Putin's anti-democratic oppression of any opposition because they like his positions defending traditional marriage and attacking the homo-lobby. They just don't seem to appreciate that the enemy of my enemy isn't always my friend.

In the end, this isn't going to work out for Putin/Russia. Most ethnic Ukrainians, 75% of Ukraine, are now so bitter about what Russia has done that they will almost certainly push harder than ever to join up with the West. Putin may be able to keep the Crimea, but he's effectively lost the bulk of the rest of the Ukraine for generations.

11 posted on 05/17/2014 11:48:55 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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What’s disturbed me though is that I’ve caught several of the Putinistas being purposely deceitful. It’s not a matter of opinion, which even the Paulistas are entitled to, but seems to have a strategy behind it. I don’t really understand how such a collective madness can come about from people who were reasonable in the past, if not annoying for their Liberaltarianism.


12 posted on 05/17/2014 12:04:32 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: varmintman

LOL


13 posted on 05/17/2014 12:18:10 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
I don’t really understand how such a collective madness can come about from people who were reasonable in the past, if not annoying for their Liberaltarianism.

Sadly, I've come to see plainly that people on both the left and right are susceptible to buying into conspiracy theories and treating them as articles of faith.

You get more of this on the left - and a lot of Libertarians hold loopy conspiracy theories, but it happens on both sides. Politically, it tends to infect whatever side is losing more often. From 2000-2006 many Democrats were absolutely convinced there was this giant Diebold conspiracy to rig elections and make Republicans win. Then 2006 came along and they swept the elections and then went on to win 2 presidential contests, so now vote fraud to them is a laughing matter.

When things won't fit into a persons world view, often they attribute this dilemma to nefarious conspiracies (that often build on one another). It's how you often get very smart, well learned people believing the most ridiculous theories. Don't forget, we had a our share of "Sandy Hook Truthers" right here on FR. These people, some long term members who we'd both probably agree with 90% of the time, were posting all kinds of nutty stuff - but to them it all fit neatly into the conspiracy.

14 posted on 05/17/2014 12:42:07 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: varmintman

Since Obama’s been involved there, probably starting with the forceful overthrow of the Ukraine government, I was baffled as to why. If the end goal is to have the radical Muzzies come in and take over... then that would make perfect sense.


15 posted on 05/17/2014 12:45:09 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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We are living in a very murky world full of half truths, outright lies and misinformation — disinformation at times.

All we know for sure is that factions have formed to control parts or all of the Ukraine. We don’t have to like either side all that much, necessarily.

AQ was probably a real entity long before 2013 and was probably at least mainly if not exclusively responsible for embassy bombings in 1998 and terrorist acts from 2000 to 2005 as believed by most in mainstream society.

At the same time, we have to remain open to other explanations and partial if not complete re-evaluations, given hard data and sound evidence. We really don’t know for sure what’s going on in this murky world, except for one thing, Satan is playing out his hand and he’s holding some high cards.

We shall see who actually wins in the showdown. I’ve been informed by a very reliable Source that it’s somebody else.


16 posted on 05/17/2014 1:17:42 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell (It wasn't this cold before global warming)
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“Saudi Arabia is recruiting jihadists from across Europe, with 5000 to be in Ukraine, armed and trained both in Poland and Ukraine, in a month. “

Oh boy, Mongo goes hardcore :)) Looks like soon we will test what NATO is really worth.

17 posted on 05/17/2014 2:15:59 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: Nifster

“This isn’t the first time something like this has happened. When four airliners “disappeared” on 9/11 much of what we are seeing today occurred then, but with far less technology being denied and suppressed.
According to Dr’s James Fetzer and Dean Hartwell, planes involved in 9/11 were still flying elsewhere after being listed as having crashed or never took off in the first place. These reports, though backed by verifiable data, were considered wild and suppositional by most but, in light of the Flight 370 debacle, deserve to be reconsidered.”

This is the type of laughable nonsense that you get with the RonPaulian Liberaltarians. Their weak-minded and mush for brains can only be hidden for so long. I’d give them credit for intensity and persistence, if it didn’t drag them down into an echo chamber of obvious lunacy.


18 posted on 05/18/2014 5:36:56 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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To: Longbow1969
Most ethnic Ukrainians, 75% of Ukraine, are now so bitter about what Russia has done that they will almost certainly push harder than ever to join up with the West. Putin may be able to keep the Crimea, but he's effectively lost the bulk of the rest of the Ukraine for generations.

Bingo.

19 posted on 05/18/2014 7:53:49 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: rbmillerjr

I know. It is soooo very frustrating.


20 posted on 05/18/2014 8:01:50 PM PDT by Nifster
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