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Illegal immigrants repeatedly risk death to enter U.S.
KETK ^ | May 17, 2014 | CNN

Posted on 05/17/2014 11:12:02 AM PDT by moonshinner_09

OGALES, MEXICO (CNN) — Their journey through the desert ended in the back of a U.S. Border Patrol van.

Sitting inside the chapel of the San Juan Bosco shelter for deportees in Nogales, Mexico, Rey and Herlinda rest and wait for another chance to cross illegally into the United States with their children ages 4, 9 and 11 in tow. Temperatures in this stretch of desert that straddles the U.S.-Mexico border hover around 100 degrees.

"I know that I'm putting all three of them at risk, but what else can I do?" said Rey, who says he has lived and worked in the United States without authorization on and off for the past 27 years. Until recently, he kept his family in Mexico, but he says he can no longer afford to sustain two households.

"What's the motivation? When one of my kids asks for meat or (candy), I cannot just say no," Rey added. "Mexico never changes. There was poverty when I left in 1986 and nothing has changed."

Hundreds of thousands of immigrants like Rey and Herlinda have tried to cross illegally into the United States over the past two years, even as the government steps up investments in manpower and technology to secure the nation's borders.

More than 150 end up dead every year. Thousands more get deported every month, according to U.S. Customs and Border and Protection figures. But would-be immigrants keep coming.

"People are still driven by economic necessity to come to the United States by whatever means they can. Some come to join family members already here, others because they are hungry," said Isabel Garcia, a public defender and a co-chair of the Tucson, Arizona-based Coalition for Human Rights.

(Excerpt) Read more at ketknbc.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; america; boohoo; illegals; immigration; mexico
I would ask the following: As stated crossing over the border can be dangerous and there can be consequences.So this family has children 4,9,and 11..Seeing as how it's dangerous to cross the border and the parents knowingly commits acts of child endangerment that also would be considered child abuse.Why are the parents never held to any standard of law pertaining to child abuse.Both sides of the border indicate how dangerous it is to cross over.My question is,why are the parents not criminally charged for child abuse ? Let one of us have in tow our children 4,9,and 11 attempt to enter Mexico illegally by putting our children in an dangerous environment and see how quick we will be arrested & criminally charged for child abuse.Both gov's do not hold the parents responsible for child abuse.We all seen and read how childrens lives are entrusted to dangerous drug cartel smugglers.The parents hire these smugglers by paying them money to commit crimes by smuggling their children into America.If caught DHS takes the children to their parents in country illegally and assures them there will be no pending criminal charges for what they did to their children.Why is child abused condone in this way by both gov's ?..
1 posted on 05/17/2014 11:12:02 AM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

Bank robbers risk death when they commit their crime.
Burglars risk death when they commit their crime.

etc.

This is just more sob story BS - aka PROPAGANDA.


2 posted on 05/17/2014 11:16:11 AM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party)
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To: moonshinner_09

Nobody is doing anything to stop this invasion.

C’mon and plant 1,000,000 landmines, please.


3 posted on 05/17/2014 11:19:04 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: moonshinner_09
Rey started coming to the US 28 years ago. What if...just WHAT IF...he had started the process to legally emigrate to the US then? He would have gotten a green card, become naturalized, and raised his young family here...all LEGALLY without the danger of desert crossings and drug smugglers. What is SO HARD about planning your life out and following the damn law? WHY would you put your family at risk just because you can't map out a simple plan for your own life? What a crock of BS sob story propaganda this is.
4 posted on 05/17/2014 11:22:58 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Ray76

I’d like to up them odds with a system of Claymores, M60, and M2 interlocking positions all along the border.


5 posted on 05/17/2014 11:23:01 AM PDT by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: moonshinner_09

6 posted on 05/17/2014 11:23:41 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: moonshinner_09

The risk isn’t high enough, they all don’t die!


7 posted on 05/17/2014 11:24:27 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: moonshinner_09

And American Service Men give their lives for these aliens to kill, steel and destroy.


8 posted on 05/17/2014 11:25:43 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: moonshinner_09

My husband found a human skull in his south Texas hunting pasture a few years ago.


9 posted on 05/17/2014 11:26:41 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: moonshinner_09
"Illegal immigrants repeatedly risk death to enter U.S."

Good!

10 posted on 05/17/2014 11:28:37 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: moonshinner_09

Do this people even know that they’re risking their like to enter a racist country where they’ll be profiled, victimized and oppressed??


11 posted on 05/17/2014 11:29:06 AM PDT by aquila48
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12 posted on 05/17/2014 11:30:53 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Ray76

I actually sympathize with this family, but what’s the solution? That’s the part that’s missing. Do we simply open America’s borders and let the world’s needy come on in? I’m sure there are plenty of Africans, Indians, and Chinese who would love to come here.

The story also doesn’t explore why Mexico is such a crap hole. I daresay it’s due to a lack of law and order. Try to build something nice, and someone has their hand out for a bribe or worse, someone comes in and destroys or takes it. So the mentality that says it’s OK to come here and ignore our laws is at least related to Mexico’s own poverty. Not only that, but if we allow that mentality to be imported, we’ll have the same results here as in Mexico.

Sadly, I think we’re already in bad shape in that regard. Too many people don’t really respect the law in this country anymore. Why should they, when our politicians violate the spirit of our founding document on a daily basis? American law today is what the powerful say it is, much like Mexico I think.


13 posted on 05/17/2014 11:30:55 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (America for Americans first!)
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To: aquila48; moonshinner_09

Try again...

Do these people even know that they’re risking their lives to enter a racist country where they’ll be profiled, victimized and oppressed??


14 posted on 05/17/2014 11:31:23 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: moonshinner_09

THIS THREAD immediately follows this one:

1 in 7 prisoners may be illegal alien, Cost to Taxpayers, ELEVEN BILLION: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3157165/posts


15 posted on 05/17/2014 11:33:34 AM PDT by Veto! (OpInions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: moonshinner_09

Yea!These illegal aliens act like their Gold prospectors.Their just waiting to hit the motherlode.


16 posted on 05/17/2014 11:36:11 AM PDT by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: moonshinner_09

And those same illegals that come here end up KILLING innocent people and are put back on the streets because the left needs votes


17 posted on 05/17/2014 11:38:38 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: moonshinner_09

Illegal immigrants repeatedly cause death in the U.S.


18 posted on 05/17/2014 11:38:48 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: puppypusher

Child abuse.

Pure and simple.

They should be imprisoned and the children returned to Mexico to stay with relatives.


19 posted on 05/17/2014 11:40:32 AM PDT by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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To: Ray76
Invaders historically have faced death when they have invaded other countries or have illegally crossed borders.

Not to worry though, as soon as our corrupt politicians have used the massive influx of illegal aliens to facilitate “fundamental change” in America, our government will have a very strong armed presence at the border to keep people from crossing without government permission.

The big difference will be that the border guards will be there to keep Americans from leaving the United States as opposed to keeping illegals border crossers from entry in much the same way East Germany and the USSR kept their populations and North Korea and Cuba still keeps their people imprisoned within their “peoples utopia”

20 posted on 05/17/2014 11:48:06 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: CitizenUSA
The story also doesn’t explore why Mexico is such a crap hole.

This is what interests me. Much of Mexico is a very beautiful country with great natural resources and of course, cheap labor. So why is there so much poverty? They ought to fix the problem down there but no one seems to have any incentive, on either side of the border.

i have the same question about Africa. China used to have the starving millions and now look at them. But Africa stays in the same old pit.

21 posted on 05/17/2014 11:55:28 AM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: moonshinner_09
Illegal immigrants repeatedly risk death to enter U.S.

And Amrican citizens repeatedly risk death continuing to allow it!

22 posted on 05/17/2014 12:03:19 PM PDT by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good grace to resign!)
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To: Aria

I always like to point out that Japan has far fewer natural resources and about the same population as Mexico. So why doesn’t anyone ask the key question as to why one is a crap hole and the other is very prosperous?


23 posted on 05/17/2014 12:03:32 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (America for Americans first!)
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To: moonshinner_09

We need to change that to a virtual certainty.


24 posted on 05/17/2014 12:03:56 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: moonshinner_09
Mexico is an impoverished, crime-ridden, third-world cesspool precisely because of the collective choices made by its inhabitants over the past centuries.

Communism, crime, corruption, Catholicism, violence, superstition, and illiteracy -- all personal choices made collectively, and all the common elements shared by Mexico and the nations of Central and South America. All these countries are rich in natural resources; capable of sustaining booming economies and advancing societies, had the people not repeatedly and collectively made poor choices based on pride, greed, lust, anger, envy, gluttony, and sloth.

Maybe they can blame it on their languages. Do Spanish and Portuguese have words for individual liberty, free markets, personal integrity, private property ownership, etc., etc.? I'm sure they do, but only in the cursing category.

25 posted on 05/17/2014 12:07:26 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Aria

China has been, within recorded history, the richest country in the world. That is even if you take it on a per capita basis.
Africa is, well, Africa.


26 posted on 05/17/2014 12:08:13 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: moonshinner_09

So stay home and live.


27 posted on 05/17/2014 12:09:36 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: CitizenUSA
why doesn’t anyone ask the key question as to why one is a crap hole and the other is very prosperous?

P.J. O'Rourke did precisely that in Eat The Rich.
28 posted on 05/17/2014 12:12:03 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: CitizenUSA

Culture and politics and probably in Mexico a stranglehold by the very rich on the government so they can maintain their lifestyles of the rich and famous. I used to vacation down there - the poverty was hard to take. Would buy things from them I didn’t need. I suppose the rich in Mexico are grateful to be able to send their impoverished minions to us rather than face a revolution.

One thing about the Japanese, they are hardworking and have a sense of shame. Not sure I could say that about Mexico in general - not to mention the gimmedats here in the US.


29 posted on 05/17/2014 12:16:21 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: Liz; AuntB; La Lydia; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker

Americans-risk-death-every-time-an-illegal-alien-enters-the-US PING


30 posted on 05/17/2014 12:39:39 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Aria

I’m pretty sure the Japanese don’t allow illegal aliens to sneak in and become Japanese citizens, either. Come to think of it, I think they make it very difficult for legal immigrants to come in and become Japanese citizens. It kinda helps them avoid culture wars.

http://www.justlanded.com/english/Japan/Japan-Guide/Visas-Permits/Japanese-citizenship

According to the Japan Times: “In 2010, 13,072 citizenship applications were approved with just 234 rejected”. 13,072, and look at the requirements!

Of course, the open border globalists insist that Japan is dying. Maybe so, but if they import 10, 20, or 30 million non-Japanese to keep the place growing, is it really even Japan anymore? The same can be said about the USA. If we keep importing millions upon millions from cultures that are antithetical to traditional American values of self reliance, small government, and liberty, will this still be America?

On the other hand, all that mass migration seems to be working well for nations like England and France. You can see how they’ve become economic and cultural powerhouses for it...


31 posted on 05/17/2014 12:57:12 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (America for Americans first!)
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To: CitizenUSA

True, economics are not the be all end all for nations.


32 posted on 05/17/2014 12:58:39 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

“True, economics are not the be all end all for nations.”

That’s exactly why I oppose GOPe members like Jeb Bush! The “love” stuff is just propaganda used to push their much larger, economic agenda. I hate to say it’s all about money, because maybe Jebbie thinks all of us will benefit from mass migration. However, he and his ilk completely, totally ignore the cultural impact. He likes tacos don’t you know...


33 posted on 05/17/2014 1:02:29 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (America for Americans first!)
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To: Ray76
Some come to join family members already here, others because they are hungry," said Isabel Garcia, a public defender and a co-chair of the Tucson, Arizona-based Coalition for Human Rights.

"But the fact is that very few are prepared for such a hard trip. Many have to survive days and days in the desert," she said, "and they can never carry enough water."

So idiots like her put out water stations in the desert to help the 'poor migrants' survive their ordeal long enough to get on the federal dole. We need pissed off dogs, fencing and a rule of engagement that lets you shoot first and question any north bound survivors later We do not need do gooder morons supporting this invasion. Their actions in suborning a crime is also a crime. JMHO! In their ranks are also 'mules' packing drugs and criminals of the type that Obama seems bound and determined to release on the public at large. Not a big fan of Savage but Border , Language and Culture with me is a winning plan.

34 posted on 05/17/2014 1:37:23 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: CitizenUSA

Arrest those that don’t die, seize all their assets, jail them until they are deported. Repeat as needed. It is “for the children”.


35 posted on 05/17/2014 1:37:56 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: moonshinner_09

mine the border.

150 is minuscule. Millions have crossed.


36 posted on 05/17/2014 2:03:11 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: meadsjn
Thanks for tossing Catholicism in with all the other "evils" of the third world cesspools. Sheesh. Let's think of all the Protestant proselytizing that's gone on down there for the past few decades. I don't see much of a change. Mexico is corruption in a nutshell; run by the few powerful elites since the revolution in 1917. Apparently they really don't seem to care what form of Christianity they "profess" with regards to understanding liberty and free market economics as we do here. You could call them 'cultural Catholics' but that's about it.

“There are not one hundred people in the United States who hate The Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they wrongly perceive the Catholic Church to be.” ― Fulton J. Sheen

37 posted on 05/17/2014 2:16:15 PM PDT by stanley windrush
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To: Don Corleone

I wouldn’t go so far as shooting first, but the government has the technology to monitor and archive virtually every aspect of our electronic lives. Yet, we’re told it’s incapable of monitoring the border. They could put monitoring equipment on towers that constantly scans miles in either direction. They wouldn’t even need many personnel, because computer algorithms could sift through the data much faster/better and flag border patrol when required. Tell me it can’t be done! It can be, but the federal government wants those borders porous! What other explanation can there be for their inaction?


38 posted on 05/17/2014 2:34:40 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (America for Americans first!)
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To: moonshinner_09

This guy supposedly has been sneaking across the border illegally since 1986. So why didn’t he take advantage of the amnesty legislation that Reagan signed around that time? That way, his family could have been with him all this time living the good life in America.

Unless, of course, he has no intention of ever becoming a legal citizen.


39 posted on 05/17/2014 4:48:57 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Be Breitbart, baby. LIFB.)
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To: moonshinner_09
Both gov's do not hold the parents responsible for child abuse.

I believe the two governments are the ones who are responsible.

We have a corrupt, third world government on our southern border and they all are in effect dumping their problems on us.

Our government should respond to this provocation in a direct manner, country to country. (think what would Putin do?)

Send someone with some credibility (I know, I know), to talk to the Mexican government and tell them to fix their problem or we will have to fix it for them.

40 posted on 05/17/2014 5:12:49 PM PDT by oldbrowser (This looks like a make it or break it point for America.)
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To: oldbrowser

Tell Mexico if they can’t control their country we will have to make them a “Protectorate” for the safety of our own country.


41 posted on 05/17/2014 5:14:42 PM PDT by oldbrowser (This looks like a make it or break it point for America.)
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To: moonshinner_09

You are talking about arresting every parent! That is not the goal of our leaders. They want cheap labor and ignorant voters, not more prisoners.


42 posted on 05/17/2014 6:23:36 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Seems like he found the time to father several children while working in the US.


43 posted on 05/19/2014 9:41:12 AM PDT by Tspud1
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