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Ice on Lake Superior still higher than anytime in past 40 years
MLive ^ | May 16, 2014 | Mark Torregrossa

Posted on 05/17/2014 4:23:35 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer

Lake Superior still has some ice on it. In fact, Lake Superior has more ice on it as of yesterday than it has had at any other time this late in the season in the past 40 years.

The high resolution satellite image from May 14, 2014 shows a patch of ice floating out the in the eastern part of Lake Superior. Also notice some of the shoreline areas on southern Lake Superior are still covered in ice.

Anne Clites, physical scientist at the Great Lakes Environmental Research Laboratory (NOAA-GLERL) looked at the years when ice cover was real high. Comparing those years to now, we have more ice on Lake Superior right now. In fact, we have double the previous high amount.

As of May 15, 2014 Lake Superior is reportedly 14.48 percent covered in ice. Compare this to the two highest late season ice years, 1979 and 1996.

On May 14, 1979, Lake Superior had 7.5 percent ice cover. So we are almost double that amount of ice.

On May 15, 1996, Lake Superior had 5.9 percent ice cover. Lake Superior still has a lot more ice this year.

On May 31, 1996, Lake Superior's ice cover was still reported at 0.1 percent coverage.

At this pace, we will still have a small amount of ice on Lake Superior in June.


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1 posted on 05/17/2014 4:23:35 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer

When the air over the water and water under the ice is hotter than it has ever been, it causes the ice to remain thicker and endure longer into the spring/summer months.

This is all explained in Gore’s book. Gosh Vince, come on fella...

/S


2 posted on 05/17/2014 4:26:02 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Vince Ferrer

Why is there all this ice, if we’re having global warming???


3 posted on 05/17/2014 4:27:14 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Vince Ferrer

When this ice melts, the Hollywood sign and all of Algore’s limousines will be under water.


4 posted on 05/17/2014 4:28:12 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Yeah well, the community organizer proclaimed he was going to lower the sea levels and all.

Just another lie in the vein of many.


5 posted on 05/17/2014 4:29:40 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Vince Ferrer

Just imagine how cold it would be without all of the global warming.


6 posted on 05/17/2014 4:29:47 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: DoughtyOne

45 degrees here in SW Pennsylvania this morning. Going down to 40 tonight.


7 posted on 05/17/2014 4:31:10 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (Some people say that experts agree!!)
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To: DoughtyOne
My freezer stopped making ice cubes so I checked the oven there they were!

Thanks, Warmers!

8 posted on 05/17/2014 4:31:59 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

quick! ship it to Antartica!


9 posted on 05/17/2014 4:33:37 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: Vince Ferrer
 photo lakesuperiormay142014_zpsb1735210.jpg
10 posted on 05/17/2014 4:45:31 PM PDT by jeannineinsd
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When the ice is higher than anytime in the past 40 years, the ice has changed

When the ice has changed, the climate has changed

When the climate has changed, there is global warming.

When there is global warming, the ice is higher than anytime in the past 40 years.

- Smarmy science :)~


11 posted on 05/17/2014 4:47:19 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Vince Ferrer

The only way to standardize lake ice is to raise taxes.


12 posted on 05/17/2014 4:47:32 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: blueplum

Antarctica has plenty. It set record levels of ice coverage for 25 days in a row just ending in the past couple of days:

https://twitter.com/BigJoeBastardi/status/467759071081553920/photo/1


13 posted on 05/17/2014 4:48:16 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

http://bigskyresort.com/the-mountain/webcams/moonlight-lodge-cam


14 posted on 05/17/2014 4:50:36 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Vince Ferrer
Graph Joe Bastardi posted yesterday

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15 posted on 05/17/2014 4:52:02 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
All I know is that its starting to look like a short summer in Michigan this year.

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16 posted on 05/17/2014 4:54:46 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Paladin2

Beautiful. Is that amount of snow anomalous for this time of year?


17 posted on 05/17/2014 4:55:19 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Vince Ferrer
Photo from today. Plenty of ice in the bays and Lake Nipigon is still covered.

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18 posted on 05/17/2014 5:03:24 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

I did a scientific experiment to see if global warming could cause this terrible amount of ice accumulation.

I stuck an ice cube tray in the oven. All the ice melted. Guess I need another climate model to prove warming’s affect on ice.


19 posted on 05/17/2014 5:08:53 PM PDT by bobo1 (progressives=commies/fascists)
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To: Vince Ferrer
You are all Holocaust Deniers if you don't believe in Climate Change or whatever the Marxist label is this year.
20 posted on 05/17/2014 5:14:08 PM PDT by bray (Palin 2016)
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To: cripplecreek

Just heard yesterday that Lake Michigan was finally ice-free.


21 posted on 05/17/2014 5:17:34 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

The site I use for daily satellite images.

https://earthdata.nasa.gov/data/near-real-time-data/visualization/worldview


22 posted on 05/17/2014 5:19:25 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Who is Gore? Is he a renowned climatologist? I thought that Algore flunked out of divinity school and ended up as the Democrat VPOTUS in the Clinton era.

Where did he get all this scientific knowledge from?

The fact that there are so many people who give this guy credence shows how totally screwed up this nation is.

Folks do one thing — follow the $$, follow the $$, follow the $$ and you will find Algore and his minions. Nothing more.


23 posted on 05/17/2014 5:21:31 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: bobo1
I stuck an ice cube tray in the oven. All the ice melted. Guess I need another climate model to prove warming’s affect on ice.

That's the problem right there, you were using empirical data. Just use models from now on.

24 posted on 05/17/2014 5:22:43 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer
Lake Superior has more ice on it as of yesterday than it has had at any other time this late in the season in the past 40 years.

See! See! That absolutely *proves* humans are changing the climate with their careless, greedy, anti-Earth CO2 emissions! Bush and the Koch brothers are to blame! /S

25 posted on 05/17/2014 5:22:48 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Black Agnes

In my experience over the last 8 years, YES!


26 posted on 05/17/2014 5:29:34 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Vince Ferrer

LOL!

I am going to ask for a federal grant for climate disruption study. I think I have figured out a way to support myself with these deep scientific breakthroughs.


27 posted on 05/17/2014 5:29:43 PM PDT by bobo1 (progressives=commies/fascists)
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28 posted on 05/17/2014 5:34:02 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Because Manbearpig is real. Al says he is.

[End Sarcasm About Here]

29 posted on 05/17/2014 5:43:21 PM PDT by Volunteer (Though I know that the hypnotized never lie, do ya? - The Who)
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To: cripplecreek

Well, at least the AGW crowd got the name of the “hockey stick” graph right.


30 posted on 05/17/2014 5:52:37 PM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of Obama's America)
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To: Vince Ferrer

don’t confuse the man-made GW crowd with “inconvenient truths”


31 posted on 05/17/2014 5:54:21 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: DoughtyOne

“Cold” is the new “warm”.


32 posted on 05/17/2014 6:51:52 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Malaysia Flight MH370 Black Box signals reported in Bermuda Triangle)
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To: All

This past winter and early spring in the Great Lakes region would be closer to the normal climate in the colder 19th century. If we had graphs from 1871 to 1900 my guess is that this current ice cover would appear average rather than unusually high. Spring temperatures were colder in that era, relative to late 20th century normals that we use now, by 3-5 degrees.

As for Lake Nipigon being frozen, that would not be too unusual. It’s a relatively shallow lake and being further north has much colder mean temperatures through the winter season. Some lakes as far south as Georgian Bay to the Ottawa valley have remained frozen in May in past years. I can recall the ice going out of a lake just a hundred miles north of Toronto about this time of year in the 1970s when we had a run of colder winters.

Friday’s high of 45 at ORD was 25 degrees below normal and missed the record by one degree; that was set in 1891.


33 posted on 05/17/2014 6:58:51 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell (It wasn't this cold before global warming)
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To: 4yearlurker

Heck, we had lows the past two nights in the mid-40s and it’ll do it again tonight here in southern Middle TN! It only made it up to 58 for the high today.
I thought we were through wearing long-sleeve shirts and jackets but it appears I was mistaken. :-(


34 posted on 05/17/2014 7:04:26 PM PDT by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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To: cripplecreek; Vince Ferrer; All

Thanks for the ping; post; thread. Fascinating/history BUMP.

Short summer, indeed.


35 posted on 05/17/2014 7:49:40 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Peter ODonnell

The 1970s were part of the global cooling / new ice age fear. There’s a line in Larry Niven’s “Lucifer’s Hammer” with the astronauts saying the world may be getting colder if not for the heat pollution and greenhouse effect from the fossil fuel burning - and we’re running out of oil!


36 posted on 05/17/2014 8:17:50 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: cripplecreek

Great find! Thanks!

This is evidence to support speculation that the there is a 17 to 18 year Great Lakes Ice cycle.


37 posted on 05/17/2014 9:18:58 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Graewoulf

I think all the posters are just Racist.


38 posted on 05/17/2014 9:24:17 PM PDT by KC Burke (Officially since Memorial Day they are the Gimmie-crat Party.ha)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Even during a hot summer, Superior is still to cold to swim in....been there tried it, wouldn’t do it again...that sucker never warms up....


39 posted on 05/18/2014 1:29:43 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: cripplecreek

Yeah! Go Lake Superior! I live in the Great Lake state, and have major respect for all the lakes...well, except Erie. Lake Superior always school us. It does what it wants, when it wants. It’s like the Monster Lake.

In related news, I believe this is the first week the ice was clear enough to move the horses and supplies over to Mackinaw Island (and if I spelled it that way instead of Mackinac, how many of us natives can keep it straight?) For you out-of-staters, the Island is in the Straits of Mackinaw, between Lake Huron and Lake Michigan, at the very tippy top of the Lower Peninsula (go ahead, do that thing. Hold your left hand up, palm away from your face. the Island, the Mackinac Bridge, and the meeting point for Lakes Michigan and Huron are right about where your bird finger stops. Detroit is down by the base of your thumb.) Detroit doesn’t care about Lake Superior. Detroit only cares about the tax money they can suck off anything that touches Lake Superior!

And that’s my Michigan rant for today!

This year’s Cherry Festival will not only feature the Blue Angels, but snowman building contests as well. Ahhh...Michigan.


40 posted on 05/18/2014 5:53:24 AM PDT by blu
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To: cripplecreek

that is so depressing....:O(


41 posted on 05/24/2014 7:53:17 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: blu

Ive been cussing for 75 years as to why I still live in this crappy state.....it has 2 seasons Winter and Road construction ahead. Now I’m too old to move.


42 posted on 05/24/2014 8:00:55 PM PDT by goat granny
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