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California Republicans stress immigration support
NBC29 ^ | KEVIN FREKING

Posted on 05/17/2014 4:33:19 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal

Republican Rep. David Valadao says he's not worried that Congress' failure to pass immigration legislation will hurt his prospects for re-election to a district in California's agricultural heartland. Same goes for GOP Rep. Jeff Denham, who represents a neighboring district in the state's San Joaquin Valley.

Still, the California congressmen are making sure voters know they support an immigration overhaul. They're aware that Democrats will try to turn the congressional gridlock into an advantage during this year's midterm elections.

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce spent $300,000 on television ads in Valadao's district, noting that he is the son of immigrants.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbc29.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; cantor; denham; ndaa

1 posted on 05/17/2014 4:33:19 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

California Republicans rushing headlong into extinction. Just change parties already.


2 posted on 05/17/2014 4:38:24 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Because catering to immigration causes has turned the Califorinia Republican Party into an electoral juggernaut.


3 posted on 05/17/2014 4:38:51 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Why do we need 30 to 50 million more people who are going to need taxpayer assistance to get ObamaCare? I just don’t understand this amnesty bull****. Where are we going to get the money to support Mexico’s poor population? Shouldn’t we take care of impoverished Americans first?


4 posted on 05/17/2014 4:41:40 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOpl72uT1Ik

U.S. Chamber Supports David Valadao


5 posted on 05/17/2014 4:46:37 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: Jagdgewehr

The Republican party is damaged beyond repair what next? I’ll be 72 soon and have given up on this country.


6 posted on 05/17/2014 4:50:19 PM PDT by boomop1 (term limits will only save this country.)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

The only hope to avert CW2 is the 10th Amendment and nullification of the feds by states.

The movement of patriots & businesses to freedom loving states is a logical move to bankrupt the leftist states. See it coming, I am too old probably to see the final outcome.

I pray that my grandchildren will be able to enjoy freedom, but I fear that it will be a long, bloody conflict.


7 posted on 05/17/2014 4:59:46 PM PDT by bobo1 (progressives=commies/fascists)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

If CA Republicians support illegals so much, they should invite the rest
of illegals in every state to CA. Just as Texas is going after CA Businesses,
CA can invite all the illegals to settle in CA.

That is one great way CA can show their support to illegals and help
the other 49 states.


8 posted on 05/17/2014 5:01:00 PM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: boomop1

We have past the point of return too.


9 posted on 05/17/2014 5:01:55 PM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Enforce the current laws for three years!!! That’s all I’m asking. Prove to me immigration laws can indeed be enforced. Once I’m convinced of this, I’m willing to discuss what to do with the illegal aliens (and their accomplice employers). I said discuss....I didn’t say amnesty. Thse are my terms which seem so absolutely reasonable to me I can’t imgine anyone being against them. But, still we get a goof-ball politician who wants to give amnesty and trust him about enforcement. Nope....I played that game in 1987 and I’m not playing it again. Let the Republican lose.


10 posted on 05/17/2014 5:24:16 PM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Their reelection is more important than the destruction of the country.


11 posted on 05/17/2014 5:31:33 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Mustangman
Enforce the current laws for three years!!! That’s all I’m asking. Prove to me immigration laws can indeed be enforced. Once I’m convinced of this, I’m willing to discuss what to do with the illegal aliens (and their accomplice employers). I said discuss....I didn’t say amnesty. Thse are my terms which seem so absolutely reasonable to me I can’t imgine anyone being against them. But, still we get a goof-ball politician who wants to give amnesty and trust him about enforcement. Nope....I played that game in 1987 and I’m not playing it again. Let the Republican lose.

Legal immigration is far more destructive than illegal aliens. We can't continue to bring in 1.1 million PERMANENT LEGAL IMMIGRANTS a year along with 650,000 guest workers annually.

12 posted on 05/17/2014 5:34:35 PM PDT by kabar
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To: vbmoneyspender

“Because catering to immigration causes has turned the California Republican Party into an electoral juggernaut.”

That was funny. Plus they are so well trained by their Democrat masters.


13 posted on 05/17/2014 5:35:15 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: ObamahatesPACoal
California Republicans: 'Helping Republicans become irrelevant since the 80s.'

We don't need ILLEGALS in the USA. We need working people.

14 posted on 05/17/2014 7:01:58 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

“California Republican” = “moderate Democrat”. That is, they’re still socialists, but they want to do a slower version of socialism that the normal communist Democrats who want it NOW.


15 posted on 05/17/2014 7:08:22 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: kabar

I always ask my liberal friends this simple question: Can the US afford to accomodate every man women and child south of the US border? They say “no’, of course not.

Then I say, “So, we agree that there should be limits on immigration into the US. Our only point of contention is on what the limits should be.”

This gets them stammering. I next say, “In any case, once you and I can agree on the limits, don’t you think the government has the obligation to enforce them?”

At this point, the name calling comes out which I take as sign of intellectual victory. Logic...it truly is our best weapon. Try this on your lberal friends!!!

I do the same thing with voter ID laws. I ask, “Does the government have the right to ensure only eligible voters participate in elections?”

They usually sarcastically come back with “It isn’t necessary.”

I then say, “I didn’t ask you if it was necessary. I asked you if the governemt has the right to ensure only eligible voters vote?” Again I get them stammering, but if they even hint at a yes I go in for the intellectual kill.

“Ok, well if you were asked to enforce election integrity, what would you do?” In this way, I get them trying to figure out how to keep non-citezens from voting...even though they are against the idea. It’s beautiful!!! Try it out.


16 posted on 05/18/2014 11:10:19 AM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: Mustangman
“Ok, well if you were asked to enforce election integrity, what would you do?” In this way, I get them trying to figure out how to keep non-citezens from voting...even though they are against the idea. It’s beautiful!!! Try it out.

As much as I share your concerns about voter fraud, I am more concerned about legal citizens (naturalized) voting. When you bring in 1.1 million legal permanent immigrants a year, 87% of whom are minorities, as defined by the USG, you are assuring that the Dems will be, if not already, the permanent majority party. CA is one of the most solid blue states and certainly the largest with 55 electoral votes due to legal immigration. It is LEGAL IMMIGRATION that is destroying this country. It must be drastically reduced.

Immigration's Impact on Republican Political Prospects, 1980 to 2012

Three key conclusions emerge from this analysis:

First, the enormous flow of legal immigrants in to the country — 29.5 million 1980 to 2012 — has remade and continues to remake the nation's electorate in favor of the Democratic Party.

Second, the partisan impact of immigration is relatively uniform throughout the country— from California to Texas to Florida — even though local Republican parties have taken different positions on illegal immigration. The decline does not seem to vary with the local Republican Party's position on illegal immigration.

Third, if legal immigration levels remain at the current levels of over one million a year, it will likely continue to undermine Republicans' political prospects moving forward. Further, if the substantial increases in legal immigration in Senate's Gang of Eight bill (S.744) were to become law it would accelerate this process. Conversely, lowering the level of legal immigration in the future would help stem the decline in the Republican vote.

Three related findings help explain why immigration reduces the Republican vote:

Immigrants, particularly Hispanics and Asians, have policy preferences when it comes to the size and scope of government that are more closely aligned with progressives than with conservatives. As a result, survey data show a two-to-one party identification with Democrats over Republicans.

By increasing income inequality and adding to the low-income population (e.g. immigrants and their minor children account for one-fourth of those in poverty and one-third of the uninsured) immigration likely makes all voters more supportive of redistributive policies championed by Democrats to support disadvantaged populations.

There is evidence that immigration may cause more Republican-oriented voters to move away from areas of high immigrant settlement leaving behind a more lopsided Democrat majority.


17 posted on 05/18/2014 11:24:36 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

The legal numbers are at least fair and legal. In my opinion, immigration hould be based on needs of our country. All white-collar immigration is based on this and immigration laws amongst white-collar workers are pretty much enforcesd. With that said, blue-collar immigration is not needs based. The feds let them flood in which drives salaries down for both legal and illegal lower end wage earners. Ceaser Chavez was actually strongly against illegal immigration for this reason....whih rarely gets mentioned in the media.

I hate to say this, but America as the land of the rugged independent worker who pulls himself up by the boot strap is likely coming to a close. People just want ‘mommy government’ taking care of them and are happy to exchange guaranteed freedom and opportunity for guaranteed medicrity.

Insisting that people should be in control of their own futres is seen as mean and unfeeling. Again, it’s so sad.


18 posted on 05/18/2014 3:51:33 PM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: Mustangman
The legal numbers are at least fair and legal. In my opinion, immigration hould be based on needs of our country. All white-collar immigration is based on this and immigration laws amongst white-collar workers are pretty much enforcesd. With that said, blue-collar immigration is not needs based.

Our legal immigration system doesn't work that way. We have a kinship-based system where people sponsor their relatives to join them thru chain migration, i.e., family reunification. About 12% of the 1.1 million legal permanent immigrants who enter annually are merit based. In fact, 60% of the green cards issued are to people already here who change status. Most of the legal immigrants are poor, uneducated, and unskilled. Check out their educational levels. 20% lack even a high school degree.

We don't need more blue collar or white collar immigrants. We need far less with 21 million Americans unemployed or underemployed.

19 posted on 05/18/2014 4:50:49 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

The less-skilled, less educated class in our country do not see entry level blue collar work as a first step towards success. They see it as “the man keeping them down.” The truth is all immigration should be vastly curtailed and field work, hotel work, and construction work should go to Americans. By the way, I hoed weeds in a field one summer and worked in a tomatoe cannary another summer because.....wait for it...I had no money!!! I eventually made it through college..blah blah blah. I’m simply saying this to point out that I’m not asking anyone (black, white, asian, mexiacan, gay, etc) to do anything I wasn’t willing to do.


20 posted on 05/19/2014 5:22:53 AM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: Mustangman
The less-skilled, less educated class in our country do not see entry level blue collar work as a first step towards success. They see it as “the man keeping them down.” The truth is all immigration should be vastly curtailed and field work, hotel work, and construction work should go to Americans.

Are There Really Jobs Americans Won’t Do? A detailed look at immigrant and native employment across occupations

Of the 472 civilian occupations, only six are majority immigrant (legal and illegal). These six occupations account for 1 percent of the total U.S. workforce. Moreover, native-born Americans still comprise 46 percent of workers even in these occupations.

Many jobs often thought to be overwhelmingly immigrant (legal and illegal) are in fact majority native-born:

Maids and housekeepers: 51 percent native-born

Taxi drivers and chauffeurs: 58 percent native-born

Butchers and meat processors: 63 percent native-born

Grounds maintenance workers: 64 percent native-born

Construction laborers: 66 percent native-born

Porters, bellhops, and concierges: 72 percent native-born

Janitors: 73 percent native-born

There are 67 occupations in which 25 percent or more of workers are immigrants (legal and illegal). In these high-immigrant occupations, there are still 16.5 million natives — accounting for one out of eight natives in the labor force.

High-immigrant occupations (25 percent or more immigrant) are primarily, but not exclusively, lower-wage jobs that require relatively little formal education.

In high-immigrant occupations, 59 percent of the natives have no education beyond high school, compared to 31 percent of the rest of the labor force.

Natives tend to have high unemployment in high-immigrant occupations, averaging 14 percent during the 2009-2011 period, compared to 8 percent in the rest of the labor market. There were a total of 2.6 million unemployed native-born Americans in high-immigrant occupations.

Some may think that native-born workers in high-immigrant occupations are mostly older, with few young natives willing to do such work. But 34 percent of natives in these occupations are age 30 or younger, compared to 27 percent of natives in the rest of labor force.

It is worth remembering that not all high-immigrant occupations are lower skilled. For example, 36 percent of software engineers are immigrants as are 27 percent of physicians.

A number of politically important groups tend to face very little job competition from immigrants (legal and illegal). For example, just 10 percent of reporters are immigrants, as are only 6 percent of lawyers and judges and 6 percent of farmers and ranchers.

Estimates of Illegal Immigrants

We find that there are no occupations in the United States in which a majority of workers are illegal immigrants.

Illegal immigrants work mostly in construction, cleaning, maintenance, food service, garment manufacturing, and agricultural occupations. However, the overwhelming majority of workers even in these areas are native-born or legal immigrants.

Although illegal immigrants comprise a large share of workers in agriculture, farm workers are only a tiny share of the total labor force. Consistent with other research, just 5 percent of all illegal immigrants work in agriculture.

21 posted on 05/19/2014 7:02:37 AM PDT by kabar
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